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[Sens of Anarchy]

Engvall would be a nice addition/upgrade to the 3rd line.
May 31, 1996 (Age: 26-329d)
6'5 219 Can fly.
72 17 13 30
16 even strength goals , 27 even strength pts. ATOI 13:38 S% 13
54.2 CF% 55.2 dZS%
UFA 2022-23 AAV 2.25

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[Agent Zuuuub]

I just hope we bring hammer back. If there’s one thing watching playoff hockey teaches me is that you need like 9 NHL quality D-men to win a cup. Two or three are definitely going to be on ELC’s, vet minimums or PTO’s turned into contracts - but guys get hurt and you can’t have a player exposed in a position of that importance.

Chychrun - Chabot
Sanderson - Zub
Brannstrom - Hamonic
Kleven - JBD
(Depth signing?) - Guennette

When did the easiest player on our team to forecheck become the "hammer"?

These playoffs are showing how you need much better depth than guys like Hamonic, who is a defensive d who sucks at defense.

 

[bicboi64]

Engvall would be a nice addition/upgrade to the 3rd line.
May 31, 1996 (Age: 26-329d)
6'5 219 Can fly.
72 17 13 30
16 even strength goals , 27 even strength pts. ATOI 13:38 S% 13
54.2 CF% 55.2 dZS%
UFA 2022-23 AAV 2.25

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Engvall would be a great pick up. Him and Gauthier are huge, not the most physical but can skate. That has value that can be very useful in the bottom 6.

 

[PlayersLtd]

When did the easiest player on our team to forecheck become the "hammer"?

These playoffs are showing how you need much better depth than guys like Hamonic, who is a defensive d who sucks at defense.

My lord that's a juvenile take. Hamonic is a perfectly fine depth D for a playoff run with very realistic potential to be an unsung hero type by the end.

 

[Ice-Tray]

My lord that's a juvenile take. Hamonic is a perfectly fine depth D for a playoff run with very realistic potential to be an unsung hero type by the end.

Our PK suffered quite a bit without Hammy and Watty blocking shots and clearing players out.

 

[God Says No]

Engvall would be a great pick up. Him and Gauthier are huge, not the most physical but can skate. That has value that can be very useful in the bottom 6.

I like Engvall for the bottom 6, but we already have someone like him in Joseph.

 

[Que]

When did the easiest player on our team to forecheck become the "hammer"?

These playoffs are showing how you need much better depth than guys like Hamonic, who is a defensive d who sucks at defense.

He’s just a great glue guy to have in the room and an fearless shot blocker.

Personally I think he’s the perfect #6 for this group for maybe the rest of his career.

 

[BankStreetParade]

I don't understand the urge/desire to write off Joseph and ship him off at a net loss of value. Missed 26 games due to injury, in and out of the lineup playing hurt, rotating cast of linemates all year making it hard to develop chemistry and had a 4.5 S% this year, with a previous career low of 11.4%. I can't foresee a more likely candidate to bounce back unless you count Batherson's high ankle sprain being fully healed. He has speed to burn, he's a fixture on the PK, he can give you spot duty in the top 6 if needed...doesn't seem like there's any need to move him this year, especially coming off one of the worst seasons of his career.

 

[Boud]

I'd prefer Schwartz over Eberle, a bit more term there and he's very good two way, and stays out the box.

I'd take Burakovsky over both

 

[senswon]

I wish we'd make a play for Tom Wilson or Jarry.
Unsure we have enough space to get either player though

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Yeah, was in Vegas at the beginning April, there is no Covid anything at the airports. Same as it was prior to 2020, in and out with the usual screenings

There hasn’t been covid stuff there for a while I don’t think. Went to Fort Lauderdale in October didn’t see a single mask or a single bottle of purel anywhere.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

There hasn’t been covid stuff there for a while I don’t think. Went to Fort Lauderdale in October didn’t see a single mask or a single bottle of purel anywhere.

Well I mean that's Desantis country. Unless you're trans, gay or Disney its a free for all.

 

[Big Muddy]

Arrival by air seems different

COVID-19 and Travel

CDC travel recommendations during the COVID-19 pandemic.

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COVID-19 and Travel

CDC travel recommendations during the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Interesting. They do however have different (less) requirements for U.S. citizens.

• Non-U.S. citizen, non-U.S. immigrants: You must show proof of being fully vaccinated with the primary series of an accepted COVID-19 vaccine before you board your flight to the United States. Only limited exceptions apply.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

He won’t make 4.75 again


Wheres their top pairing d man?

I didn't say he would. I stated "current contract" in my post.

There will be sufficient cap space IF Debrincat is moved. That was the "context" in my post.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Well I mean that's Desantis country. Unless you're trans, gay or Disney its a free for all.

Or interested in America Civil rights history

 

[ToasterStutzle]

I wish we'd make a play for Tom Wilson or Jarry.
Unsure we have enough space to get either player though

Please not Jarry.... Have we not learned our lesson about reclamation project goalies.

I'm a huge advocate to either A. get a guy like Saros or Helly or B. Run with Forsberg/Soogard/Meri. Trading for goalies rarely ever works out, especially if their best years are behind them.

 

[JD1]

I don't understand the urge/desire to write off Joseph and ship him off at a net loss of value. Missed 26 games due to injury, in and out of the lineup playing hurt, rotating cast of linemates all year making it hard to develop chemistry and had a 4.5 S% this year, with a previous career low of 11.4%. I can't foresee a more likely candidate to bounce back unless you count Batherson's high ankle sprain being fully healed. He has speed to burn, he's a fixture on the PK, he can give you spot duty in the top 6 if needed...doesn't seem like there's any need to move him this year, especially coming off one of the worst seasons of his career.

Writing off Joseph adds to the Dorion's an idiot legacy.

 

[Big Muddy]

I don't understand the urge/desire to write off Joseph and ship him off at a net loss of value.

Salary cap. Posts with that idea seem to be trying to fit in Debrincat's extension/new contract AND acquire a good goalie. Got to find some cap room elsewhere in the roster to accommodate those 2 signings.

Doubt if there's anything nefarious going on.

 

[Cosmix]

I like Engvall for the bottom 6, but we already have someone like him in Joseph.

Joseph 6'1 187 lbs age 26
Engvall 6'5 219 lbs age 26
There is a bit of a difference.

 

[Cosmix]

Writing off Joseph adds to the Dorion's an idiot legacy.

Trading Paul for Joseph and signing him for $2.95M AAV is a factor in the assessment.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Joseph 6'1 187 lbs age 26
Engvall 6'5 219 lbs age 26
There is a bit of a difference.

Isn't Engvall's size basically cancelled out by his complete lack of physicality?

 

[BankStreetParade]

Salary cap. Posts with that idea seem to be trying to fit in Debrincat's extension/new contract AND acquire a good goalie. Got to find some cap room elsewhere in the roster to accommodate those 2 signings.

Doubt if there's anything nefarious going on.

We have $16M in cap space heading into next season. If they are in the market for a real #1 in nets, like a Saros for instance, they'd be looking at offloading Forsberg's $2.75M to absorb his $5M cap hit. Hell, Nashville might want Forsberg in the deal to give them an average starter locked in at a good price. The net difference is pretty minimal, all things considered, and you could fill out the bottom of the roster with ELCs and vets on league min contracts.

With escrow paid back, we could be looking at 88M-90M salary cap the year after which alleviates any 1-year cap pressure we might feel.

Of course, if Debrincat doesn't want to extend here for whatever reason, then there's even less incentive to urgently move Joseph.

At the end of the day, selling super low on players who had injury plagued seasons and career low shooting percentages is almost always the wrong move.

 

[Cosmix]

Isn't Engvall's size basically cancelled out by his complete lack of physicality?

So you're saying he plays like a 5'7 Lady Bing player?

I want a big bruiser too!

 

[God Says No]

Joseph 6'1 187 lbs age 26
Engvall 6'5 219 lbs age 26
There is a bit of a difference.

See below

Isn't Engvall's size basically cancelled out by his complete lack of physicality?

Exactly.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Ya Engvall is not good, but he is soft.