Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[Burrowsaurus]

Peeke + Korpisalo ( extended ) + Jenner vs Ottawa first ( top 5 protected ) + JBD + Pinto/Greig + Kelly + Formenton + Sokolov

Not sure why you’re giving up a first here.

 

[Que]

Peeke + Korpisalo ( extended ) + Jenner vs Ottawa first ( top 5 protected ) + JBD + Pinto/Greig + Kelly + Formenton + Sokolov

Pretty sure Jarmo would fight Pierre to the death for that package.

 

[slamigo]

What isn't true? Did Gus drastically improve after the trade and before playing his first game with the wild?

I didn't say he had a better season last year, just that he was prob the better player at the time of the trade, he's a young guy you expect to improve, Talbot is an older guy you expect to regress.

Because right now, he appears to be the significantly better player, unless you think he improved between being traded, and playing his first game, hindsight tells us we traded the better player,

Logic doesn't enter into the argument with that particular poster. He's just angry at the fanbase and extremely pro-management. Makes you wonder if it's a burner account. Lol

 

[BondraTime]

Bring back the exercise bikes after the games.

Nobody could tell us that Schubert and Langfeld weren’t the most physically fit players in the league.

 

[Ouroboros]

Maybe the trade was a wakeup call for him? Ex-Ottawa players talk about the quality of the training staff all the time. Fitness doesn't seem to be a problem for any of the guys on the current roster, does it?

It's possible the trade was a wakeup call for Gustavsson. Maybe he was known for being out of shape in Ottawa and that was part of the reason he was moved - we wouldn't know either way.

There's been a lot of turnover on the strength/conditioning staff in the Sens organization recently. Jeremy Benoit was promoted up out of Belleville to the big club this year and Rob Mouland was recently made head trainer. They backfilled Benoit's position in Belleville with Mitch Freeburn, who came straight from the OHL. Is this a high quality staff? I genuinely don't know.

 

[BankStreetParade]

What isn't true? Did Gus drastically improve after the trade and before playing his first game with the wild?

I didn't say he had a better season last year, just that he was probtthe better player at the time of the trade, he's a young guy you expect to improve, Talbot is an older guy you expect to regress.

Because right now, he appears to be the significantly better player, unless you think he improved between being traded, and playing his first game, hindsight tells us we traded the better player,

It's possible he did, yes. Because the guy I saw play in Ottawa last year was, arguably, the worst goalie we've ever seen. Management decided that a guy who played like that was too much of a liability behind a young team and found a deal to bring some veteran insurance. People can hate the results all they want, I do too, but it doesn't change the fact that Gus didn't show even a flash of this type of play. Kudos to Minnesota for whatever they're doing to get him to play that way but it's clear he was not going to repeat those results if he had stayed.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Logic doesn't enter into the argument with that particular poster. He's just angry at the fanbase and extremely pro-management. Makes you wonder if it's a burner account. Lol

 

[Ouroboros]

St. Louis just bailed the Pens out of the Kapanen contract by taking him off waivers.

Maybe Dorion should pop Joseph on waivers and see if he can get that lucky.

 

[Micklebot]

It's possible he did, yes. Because the guy I saw play in Ottawa last year was, arguably, the worst goalie we've ever seen. Management decided that a guy who played like that was too much of a liability behind a young team and found a deal to bring some veteran insurance. People can hate the results all they want, I do too, but it doesn't change the fact that Gus didn't show even a flash of this type of play. Kudos to Minnesota for whatever they're doing to get him to play that way but it's clear he was not going to repeat those results if he had stayed.

Well that brings into question your ability to evaluate goalies because he wasn't even the worst goalie performance during the current rebuild, as for not even showing a flash, that's also not true, he a very strong showing just the year before, he was 23 years old last year so inconsistent, but he definitely showed promise

Like I said, it's hindsight, I don't blame management for not being confident with a tandem with a combibed 129 NHL games under their belt or whatever it was.

 

[GCK]

Well they together make MORe than saros. So either way I think you have to say bye to debrincat?

If vejmelka is any good which of course we have no idea. His contract is also up in two years same with chychrun and saros I beleive.

We can absorb the 7.3 from Chychrun and Vejmelka while keeping Debrincat. Saros is 5 on his own so the choice become D or Debrincat

Yet it

and only 18 appearances last year. Either way. Seems we were hasty.

He had no waiver eligibility. I was not overly confident in a Forsberg Gus tandem.

 

[Alex1234]

It's possible he did, yes. Because the guy I saw play in Ottawa last year was, arguably, the worst goalie we've ever seen. Management decided that a guy who played like that was too much of a liability behind a young team and found a deal to bring some veteran insurance. People can hate the results all they want, I do too, but it doesn't change the fact that Gus didn't show even a flash of this type of play. Kudos to Minnesota for whatever they're doing to get him to play that way but it's clear he was not going to repeat those results if he had stayed.

Not even close

 

[Back in Black]

 

[Sun God Nika]

Team needs to buy picks with the excess cap space for the rest of the year if they aren’t gonna use it for a player acquisition . Melnyk doesn’t own the team anymore but his cheapness is still living in his estate owning the team

 

[Hale The Villain]

Kravtov traded to Vancouver for only Lockwood and a 7th

Why exactly didn't we top that? Not exactly like we're overflowing with young forwards at the moment.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I'm ok with hockey trades where we flip a position of strength for an area of weakness, flipping Pinto in a package for Chychrun is a bit like Clb flipping Johansen for Jones. They were about the same age, 2 years apart, and just allowed both teams to fill a position of need by moving a posting strength.

Yikes. Say it with me .

Pinto is untouchable

Kravtov traded to Vancouver for only Lockwood and a 7th

Why exactly didn't we top that? Not exactly like we're overflowing with young forwards at the moment.

Kravtsov is trending to be a Lockwood right now give it two years

 

[BondraTime]

Kravtov traded to Vancouver for only Lockwood and a 7th

Why exactly didn't we top that? Not exactly like we're overflowing with young forwards at the moment.

If his past 4 years are any indication, I'm surprised any team wanted him at all, for any of skill, KHL or personality reasons

 

[Alex1234]

Yikes. Say it with me .

Pinto is untouchable



Kravtsov is trending to be a Lockwood right now give it two years

Well it's either Pinto or Greig

Parker Kelly is not returning Gudbranson atm let alone JC

We have to give to get a good player

Or wait until Benjamin Roger can play in the top 4

 

[Micklebot]

Yikes. Say it with me .

Pinto is untouchable

He really isn't though. He's stuck behind Stützle (someone who actually is untouchable) and Norris. Good player, but untouchable is reserved for the best of the best on your team, and Pinto isn't that.

 

[DJB]

Kravtov traded to Vancouver for only Lockwood and a 7th

Why exactly didn't we top that? Not exactly like we're overflowing with young forwards at the moment.

I knew instantly the moment I saw the deal you would be complaining about Dorion sitting on his hands again lol

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Kravtov traded to Vancouver for only Lockwood and a 7th

Why exactly didn't we top that? Not exactly like we're overflowing with young forwards at the moment.

Who is Kravtsov
Mi obviously know. At this point I’m surprised he wasn’t just a throw in for motte instead of the 7th lol.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Why would we want Kravtsov? He's a bust

 

[WallyD]

The NHL is a business.

It has TV contracts that generate revenue. It's in the NHL's interest to create media hype, it's just good business to do so. So ya I think there's a certain amount of leakage that takes place

Good point. I would be even more surprised if there weren't leaks. The rumour mill is a tool leveraged by both sides, teams and players/agents, to initiate a change, or even to negotiate to some degree. Nothing wrong with this as long as they colour inside the lines rules wise.

 

[Tap on the Ankle]

Kravtsov return is funny after all the hype he got on the main boards

 

[WallyD]

Well, at least your listening to the voices in your head

Trust noone!

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Kravtsov return is funny after all the hype he got on the main boards

Well he did look very good.

Why would we want Kravtsov? He's a bust

So is Gauthier?