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slipknottin
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JaeTM
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While Klein isn't a guy with immense value, he has more value than a player of his nature that's left handed and can only play the left side. RHD are harder to come by the LHD so his value is already higher because of his handedness.
If you can't tell i'm disgusted by a Stewart for Callahan trade. Giving a 3rd in addition to get a 1st that will be in the 25-29 range on top of that?
People have lost their damn minds.
Stewart does not make this team better when you factor in the lose of Callahan. This is a sucker mans trade.
HatTrick Swayze
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That reads as nearly 100% gone. I get it from both sides. But it sucks as a fan.
I dont know why you're particularly disgusted. Getting a decent roster player back + some add-ons is in line with the best you could hope for considering Callahan is a rental.
The Rangers are taking the right approach here. At least they realize that avoiding massively overpaying Callahan and getting something of value in return is the play here.
Raspewtin
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I don't agree with that. Stewart could thrive in this system.
I, however, hate lazy players. Stewart's effort varies from shift to shift. If he somehow stays "on" his whole time here, we will have robbed STL.
If this trade happens of course.
He isn't copped liver, but on many shifts he is more or less irrelevant. Definitely behind a Pouliot on the avg shift. Sure, he is really strong too in some situations.
But how valuble is it that he can fight? If he never fought, would we consider him?
He is expensive too.
SA16
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I think getting Stewart back for Cally would be a good deal...getting a guy signed for an extra year for a UFA. Stewarts also a better offensive player than Callahan. Only reason you can even get him for a UFA is because he's not having a great year and it's his second off year of the last 3. 3 of his 5 seasons (excluding rookie year) have been very very good. 2 of them have been rather mediocre.
slipknottin
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Bartlett is taking his client to free agency.
Stop coaching Pat spoke to Bartlett on Monday
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/h...ello-callahan-article-1.1593003#ixzz2s00w6zo9
Someone told Pat that
The Rangers don't want the situation to linger past the deadline into the summer.
Callahan told Brooks in December
http://nypost.com/2013/12/02/absolutely-nothing-going-on-with-callahan-contract-talks/
Stop coaching Pat spoke to Bartlett on Monday
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/h...ello-callahan-article-1.1593003#ixzz2s00w6zo9
Someone told Pat that
The Rangers don't want the situation to linger past the deadline into the summer.
Callahan told Brooks in December
http://nypost.com/2013/12/02/absolutely-nothing-going-on-with-callahan-contract-talks/
Just wondering why people think Stewart for Callahan is actually tangible when I can't remember a trade that Sather has made that didn't potentially benefit us in some huge way.
Gomez got us McD and cap space to sign Gaborik.
A 2nd for Antropov was a steal at the time.
Lisin for Korps in rhetrospect didn't work out. In the moment, we traded someone who was a 3rd liner for the potential for a top 6 winger.
Tyutin for Zherdev. Zherdev had LOADS of potential. If only he had the motor. Again, the potential was there for the trade to be a rip off for us.
Clowe for a 2nd, 3rd that wasn't ours, and 5th? Had he not gotten injured, that trade may actually have made sense. But you can't predict injuries in sports.
Erixon for a 2nd, or was it 2 2nds? Either way the value was much more than what he was worth at the time.
The Lindberg trade.
The Kristo trade.
The Mashinter trade.
Carcillo for a 7th.
The Gaborik trade.
They're all built to favor us in some way or another.
What the **** does Stewart for Cally do for us? Nothing. It makes us worse, and at best even.
More likely, if we're inquiring about stewart, it's to move Zucc down to the 2nd line and move Hagelin up to the 3rd line... removing Poo from the lineup altogether.
Gomez got us McD and cap space to sign Gaborik.
A 2nd for Antropov was a steal at the time.
Lisin for Korps in rhetrospect didn't work out. In the moment, we traded someone who was a 3rd liner for the potential for a top 6 winger.
Tyutin for Zherdev. Zherdev had LOADS of potential. If only he had the motor. Again, the potential was there for the trade to be a rip off for us.
Clowe for a 2nd, 3rd that wasn't ours, and 5th? Had he not gotten injured, that trade may actually have made sense. But you can't predict injuries in sports.
Erixon for a 2nd, or was it 2 2nds? Either way the value was much more than what he was worth at the time.
The Lindberg trade.
The Kristo trade.
The Mashinter trade.
Carcillo for a 7th.
The Gaborik trade.
They're all built to favor us in some way or another.
What the **** does Stewart for Cally do for us? Nothing. It makes us worse, and at best even.
More likely, if we're inquiring about stewart, it's to move Zucc down to the 2nd line and move Hagelin up to the 3rd line... removing Poo from the lineup altogether.
NYR Viper
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Exactly. People are acting like Stewart is a borderline 4th liner. He is a pretty consistent 25 goal scorer over his career. 26. Big body. Skates well.
He doesn't go all out in terms of hitting, etc but adding another 25 goal scorer with size isn't the worst move in the world. People are overreacting a bit.
Yes, he scores goals.
There needs to be more coming back than just Stewart. Prospect? Pick? Do the Blues like the idea of Boyle as a 4th line C?
Falco Lombardi
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Blues fan wanting to chime in if you don't mind (because I like the Rangers and would like to see them succeed)
Under Alain Vigneault, I think Stewart would really thrive. I also think that playing in the Eastern Conference would help him out. He's not as bad as many of our fans make him out to be. He's admittedly not great against teams like LA and Anaheim but those would be at a minimum playing in New York.
I really truly believe that Stewart would be a 30 goal scorer for the Rangers.
Under Alain Vigneault, I think Stewart would really thrive. I also think that playing in the Eastern Conference would help him out. He's not as bad as many of our fans make him out to be. He's admittedly not great against teams like LA and Anaheim but those would be at a minimum playing in New York.
I really truly believe that Stewart would be a 30 goal scorer for the Rangers.
slipknottin
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Stewart on the team next season >>>> neither cally nor stewart on the team next season.
NYR Viper
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I think most of the sensible people around here understand Stewart holds some value, but he has a 4+ million cap hit and doesn't do much outside of provide some scoring. Hence why, I at least, feel there would need to be more coming back.
Avoiding paying Callahan a crazy price and getting SOMETHING in return for him/not letting him walk away in the summer for nothing are entrenched values to the Rangers here.
If you want to look at this as strictly a player for player swap, you'll never be happy.
Raspewtin
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Hunter Gathers
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A "pretty consistent 25 goal scorer over his career" who has scored 25 goals in the NHL all of two times?
Raspewtin
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You seem pretty level headed.
Is a 1st and Stewart really that out of the question? I got shredded on the trade boards for asking for a 1st too. What do you think?
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