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The thing that really concerns me with this team is their center depth next year, with no Beaver. That really scares me, and I don't know how Sather is going to help it.

I'm going to make an educated guess that Danny Kristo will be ready for full time NHL duty next year, should make his way into the lineup. Gives us another shooter and finisher, which we need.

Still need a top 6 LW with size, in my opinion. Bump Cally and Hags to the third line, and that leaves the 3rd line center position. Which again, I think we can fill with a prospect, I'm hoping Lindberg can take that spot.

Sounds good to me.
 
Who do you have in mind to fill that void kenjets? Most of the top rental candidates are playing for contenders this year.
 
Raspewtin said:
The thing that really concerns me with this team is their center depth next year, with no Beaver. That really scares me, and I don't know how Sather is going to help it.

I'm going to make an educated guess that Danny Kristo will be ready for full time NHL duty next year, should make his way into the lineup. Gives us another shooter and finisher, which we need.

Still need a top 6 LW with size, in my opinion. Bump Cally and Hags to the third line, and that leaves the 3rd line center position. Which again, I think we can fill with a prospect, I'm hoping Lindberg can take that spot.

Sounds good to me.
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Thing is, a lot of us had Lindberg or Miller penciled in for the third line this year, we saw how that worked out. It's dangerous to assume that a certain player in the minors or another league this year will fill a need in the big club next season. Let them earn spots out of camp if they're really ready.

MDZ for Ryan O' Reilly isn't looking so bad now, is it?
 
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I Eat Crow said:
Who do you have in mind to fill that void kenjets? Most of the top rental candidates are playing for contenders this year.
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That's true. We're not in the market for a Yakupov or Zibanedjad unless we have another injury to Nash.

I'm thinking we might kick the tires on Moulson and probably decide he's too expensive for a rental w/o playoff experience.

Ott is another candidate but he might not fit AV's system.

I think Semin is an intriguing option. Carolina will fall out of the playoffs soon. Semin would fit AV's system. Has speed. Can be physical on the boards when he needs to. Most importantly he's creative with the puck and has an accurate rifle shot. He'll be cheaper than other options. He has playoff experience. He'd be lethal in this system. Think he'd have a resurgent year here.
 
kenjets36 said:
That's true. We're not in the market for a Yakupov or Zibanedjad unless we have another injury to Nash.

I'm thinking we might kick the tires on Moulson and probably decide he's too expensive for a rental w/o playoff experience.

Ott is another candidate but he might not fit AV's system.

I think Semin is an intriguing option. Carolina will fall out of the playoffs soon. Semin would fit AV's system. Has speed. Can be physical on the boards when he needs to. Most importantly he's creative with the puck and has an accurate rifle shot. He'll be cheaper than other options. He has playoff experience. He'd be lethal in this system. Think he'd have a resurgent year here.
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Moulson and Ott can definitely be had. However, I fear that the price on them will be too high. I really don't want to give up our 1st and 2nd rounders for rentals.

Semin I like as a player, but that contract is ghastly. I'd only take him if Carolina would retain 25% of his cap hit per year.

A couple of other names that may not be too expensive coming from teams that will probably look to sell come the deadline...Mike Cammalleri and Devin Setogochi. They should cost 3rd round picks or lower and/or middling prospects to rent.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Moulson and Ott can definitely be had. However, I fear that the price on them will be too high. I really don't want to give up our 1st and 2nd rounders for rentals.

Semin I like as a player, but that contract is ghastly. I'd only take him if Carolina would retain 25% of his cap hit per year.

A couple of other names that may not be too expensive coming from teams that will probably look to sell come the deadline...Mike Cammalleri and Devin Setogochi. They should cost 3rd round picks or lower and/or middling prospects to rent.
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Thought about both of them as well when responding to your post. Camalleri is oft injured. Also very undersized. You can't be too small as a team otherwise teams that are huge will wear you down in a best of 7 series.

Setogouchi could be hit or miss. He's still only what 25/26? Winnipeg probably would want an inflated offer on him just bc of age and potential, similar to our expectations if MDZ was traded.

Semin is large. He can handle his own. Thought he only signed a 2 year deal. Who's responsible for such a disgusting contract?

Him @ 4.5 the rest of the way would work, I think. So Carolina would roughly have to take around 35/36% of the remaining contract.
 
kenjets36 said:
Thought about both of them as well when responding to your post. Camalleri is oft injured. Also very undersized. You can't be too small as a team otherwise teams that are huge will wear you down in a best of 7 series.

Setogouchi could be hit or miss. He's still only what 25/26? Winnipeg probably would want an inflated offer on him just bc of age and potential, similar to our expectations if MDZ was traded.

Semin is large. He can handle his own. Thought he only signed a 2 year deal. Who's responsible for such a disgusting contract?

Him @ 4.5 the rest of the way would work, I think. So Carolina would roughly have to take around 35/36% of the remaining contract.
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Re: Cammalleri I agree with your assessment. For what he'd be (a middle six player to round out the lines and pot a goal occasionally), he'd be more than adequate. Setogochi is more of a speedster than anything else, but he has a good shot and is a righty. Would be a great addition to the 2nd PP unit.

Semin even at 5.5 million would be a tremendous addition. Who would we give up though? Del Zotto and a small piece would be a starting point.

With an anticipated Richards buyout and cap increase, the Rangers will have the money to retain their key free agents and go out and get another impact player to round out the squad. Semin wouldn't be the worst get, but with Richards bought out and Brassard's uncertainty and inconsistency, I'd rather put the money towards a center. Depth down the middle wins championships.
 
Mikos87 said:
MCD-G
Staal-X
Moore-Stralman

Stralman has been great, but no one is going to complain about having an elite level top 4. DZ locked it down the last couple of years with Staal out there, but he too has been inconsistent alongside the French connection. I hope he gets his head screwed on straight and stops being a waifer out there like the top ten round busts up front. There's more hope that DZ rounds out, rather than the Brass or Poo turning into all world checkers.

Ideally Staal lines up with a top 4 RH offensive defensive with some grit. Maybe Staal lines up on the right side and Moore becomes a top 4 player, maybe Stralman picks up the offense, maybe DZ. But I think the team stands more of a chance to get two third line upgrades (whether internally or externally), than that elusive top 4 RHD.

Hank
Cam

Think we know what we're getting here by now. Great job Benny Allaire!
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Mikos, I agree with this. Given that Girardi and Strålman can log top 4 minutes, and we got McI on the farm, we got a great opertunity to bring in a young offensiveminded RD and ease him into the lineup. We got minutes on the PP for the kid too.
 
Kwayry said:
The only unknown is how well does DZ adjust to the right side. Sather and the rest of the league knows how he can play on the left side on the top 4. And the sample size is large enough.
I do however agree with your overall point that Sather is in no rush to trade DZ. There will be plenty of opportunities to do so and at the price he wants.
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I agree.

I would just believe that you don't want to discuss terms of asking price or offers before you really are dead-set to trade a player. You know, you don't want to ask for 100 on tuesday last week and then call up the same guy two weeks later and ask for 50.

My impression is that you often don't start with direct names either. That can be offensive and create a deadlock. (i) I think you first spread the word and establish a contact. (ii) Then you establish a frame for what you want. (iii) Then sometimes the other team comes back with a list of options, or concrete names. (iv) And you make a counter-offer that is specified.

My point is just that, given that MDZ only at the moment has been really challenged and pushed by AV and Slats, I would be suprised if they have gone to (ii) already.
 
Erat is available. Fifty to sixty point winger.

He's RW so I'm not sure where he would fit but he was one of Nashville's only offensive talents before the trade to Washington.

Could be had cheap if GMGM is just looking to make a deal. Again though, not sure if he fits here.
 
Ailurophile said:
Erat is available. Fifty to sixty point winger.

He's RW so I'm not sure where he would fit but he was one of Nashville's only offensive talents before the trade to Washington.

Could be had cheap if GMGM is just looking to make a deal. Again though, not sure if he fits here.
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0 goals in 23 games with the Caps.

You'd figure he would've scored one by mistake. Sheesh. No thanks.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
0 goals in 23 games with the Caps.

You'd figure he would've scored one by mistake. Sheesh. No thanks.
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They have mishandled him like crazy there. Very odd situation for a big strong 2-way winger. I wouldn't mind him although there are others higher on the list.

What an awful trade they made though moving Forseberg.
 
NYR Viper said:
They have mishandled him like crazy there. Very odd situation for a big strong 2-way winger. I wouldn't mind him although there are others higher on the list.

What an awful trade they made though moving Forseberg.
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Hes another RW.

Nash, Callahan, Zuccarello.

Are you saying he wouldnt be mishandled here too?
 
if Staal gets dealt to Canes i want Lindholm and Ryan Murphy back



id do something like


D Marc Staal, C Derick Brassard to Canes

C Elias Lindholm, LW Brock McGinn, D Ryan Murphy and 1st in 2015 to Rangers
 
No more bandaids. Let alone bandaids that aren't even playing well.

If you're going to buy low, at least buy low on a player who can be cost controlled in the event that he rebounds on this team.
 
Erat was a good player 2-3 years ago. I don't know what is up with him, the Caps is a really poorly run organization and I think he would be decent under AV.

BUT, we got Zucc. The kid is almost playing for free. A real bargain. There are a lot of suspects out there that could help the right team, Erat, Hemsky, Havlat and co. But I think you have little room for one of them in addition to Zucc though...
 
I don't think you can afford to be as choosy when it comes to who you trade with given the new league format. That being said, I don't think the Islanders make great trade partners with us. They don't really have that defender that we could use, and I doubt they'd trade us a guy like Strome or Nelson for the same reason we probably wouldn't want to trade them Del Zotto.

They'd probably dangle Grabner, and he's a one-trick pony if I've ever seen one. Not at all interested.
 
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