Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part IV: Yak Yak Yak Yak

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Is there even rumors going on with this?

I hear voices in my head that tell me all these things are possibilities. Does that count?

 

[Trxjw]

I obviously did not mean to put words in anyone's mouth, including yours, Trxjw.

To the extent you may feel an apology is in order, please accept mine.

However, in my defense, ....
I trust you'll grant me, though, that there is a very fine line between


and the next logical inference, making the painful choice to actually give up overpayment to get that guy.

I think this is a more similar, common ground position than not.
I acknowledge, however, devil is in the details, and not same amount of overpayment is agreeable to consensus of posters.

I think that's fair, Bern, but the line between "overpayment" and "detrimental to the team" is quite clearly defined, and I think you may have gone too far to the latter when you start offering up Stepan, MDZ, etc, all for Seth Jones.

 

[Trxjw]

Some guy on the trade rumors board offered Michalek, Zibby, and Ceci straight up for MDZ. I'd take that deal and run.

I'd imagine Sens fans are locking him up in a room somewhere as we speak.

 

[aufheben]

Some guy on the trade rumors board offered Michalek, Zibby, and Ceci straight up for MDZ. I'd take that deal and run.

Was it Mats Sundin?

 

[Fitzy]

Important to note is that I don't think in the thousands of trade proposals posted on this site I have ever seen one that ended up being exactly correct to a move that actually went down.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I like the OTT and MIN ones. Bryan Little is seriously overpaid and I'm not high on Postma. Colorado is OK but I'm not high on Barrie at all.

Little makes 4.7 million for the next 4 years. He has 11 goals so far this season. Its probably not sustainable, but he'll end up with 30 goals. He's a perennial 55 to 60 point guy, more than fair for 4.7 million.

Would you rather Elliot from Colorado? I perceive him and Barrie to have similar value.

Is there even rumors going on with this?

There have been rumors of every team I posted a proposal for to be looking to upgrade their D, specifically on the left side.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Important to note is that I don't think in the thousands of trade proposals posted on this site I have ever seen one that ended up being exactly correct to a move that actually went down.

Lock me in at 500-1 odds that MDZ and Skjei for Smith and Zibby happens.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

i hear voices in my head that tell me all these things are possibilities. Does that count?

whats the frequency sather!!!!!

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I agree, but Im also worried the team is lowering Del Zotto's value by the second. Third pairing minutes, not playing his natural side, healthy scratch. I'm sure they can get something for him, but will it be something of impact?

We'll get someone's change of scenery guy for our change of scenery guy.....

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

I agree, but Im also worried the team is lowering Del Zotto's value by the second. Third pairing minutes, not playing his natural side, healthy scratch. I'm sure they can get something for him, but will it be something of impact?

For once I actually agree with you.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Important to note is that I don't think in the thousands of trade proposals posted on this site I have ever seen one that ended up being exactly correct to a move that actually went down.

I can't quite recall but I'm pretty sure somewhere the Nash trade was called exactly. Dubi, Erixon, 1st was widely agreed upon. It was the last piece that was really up for debate.

Although there were what, 9-10 Nash threads? Bound to get it exactly at some point in 10k posts...

 

[Raspewtin]

Little makes 4.7 million for the next 4 years. He has 11 goals so far this season. Its probably not sustainable, but he'll end up with 30 goals. He's a perennial 55 to 60 point guy, more than fair for 4.7 million.

Would you rather Elliot from Colorado? I perceive him and Barrie to have similar value.

I'd rather Duncan Siemens honestly . I don't think it's sustainable. He's a 50 point player, 60 with really good linemates. On this team that's strapped for cap money, I don't have interest in him when we have a better version of him in Stepan.

Need a top 6 finisher, preferably with size.

 

[BBKers]

Roster

FORWARDS
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($0.800m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
J.T. Miller ($0.894m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m)

DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
John Moore ($0.840m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m)
Justin Falk ($0.975m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)

BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)

BURIED
Arron Asham ($0.075m)
Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
------
TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
BONUSES: $1,000,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,438,183

RANGERS now with only 18th highest caphit in the league. This with all players on squad, albeit having Pyatt still injured. $5,383,969 Deadline amount. Sather is scouraging under the surface like a great white getting ready to make a move...
Guessing first one will be minor. Then, who knows?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Saw this on the Sharks board:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/11/18/ottawa-senators-searching-for-6th-forward

The Sharks have also been asked about Havlat by the New York Rangers, said the source, but GM Doug Wilson is not yet ready to give up on the 32-year old Czech, who has a goal and an assist in eight games this season.

 

[mike14]

Saw this on the Sharks board:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/11/18/ottawa-senators-searching-for-6th-forward

meh, he's got another year left at $5m after this and I don't his 20g/50p is going to put us over the top.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Havlat? Yuck.

 

[RGY]

Yeah, no way we can afford Havlat's salary, let alone he is injury plagued and getting older.

 

[jniklast]

Important to note is that I don't think in the thousands of trade proposals posted on this site I have ever seen one that ended up being exactly correct to a move that actually went down.

I think someone once called the Hal Gill for a 2nd deal to the Pens (and funnily enough was called crazy for that proposal). That wasn't too hard though with so few components to the deal.

 

[azrok22]

Saw this on the Sharks board:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/11/18/ottawa-senators-searching-for-6th-forward

Havlat? Yuck.

I think the Michael Scott No Gif is a more appropriate response to the idea of trading for Havlat.

 

[Made Dan]

Saw this on the Sharks board:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/11/18/ottawa-senators-searching-for-6th-forward

MDZ
Pyatt
Pouliot

for

Havlat
Demers


Would think around 100k left in space. Not sure I'm sold on Havlat to be honest unless San Jose retains cap hit, which they wont.

 

[BBKers]

Great White Sather Hedeskoga to stay away from the Heatley, Hemsky, Havlat guys. If we trade MDZ (+) we need a younger player that IS not of Rental character. Or flip Brassard for a Center with abigger presence to be used on 2nd/3rd line in the future, pending the development of Miller And/or Lindberg. Add some pieces to Hartford as well. Nice to develop kids in a winning environment. Would like to see a goalie and a scorer picked up, why not Omark for cheap?

 

[Jabroni]

Stay away from Triple H.

It's not time to play the game.

 

[Riverdale]

Havlat is exactly the kind of player we don't need.

 

[RangerBoy]

Be careful of the Ottawa Sun.

 

[RangerBoy]

Havlat is owed $6M next season. He is another right winger. Not happening. Rick Nash and Ryan Callahan.