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Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part III - 11/11 Yakupov willing to be moved

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NYR Viper said:
How does that help this team in the next couple of years though? I agree with your premise.
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If you keep asking yourself that question every single season, then nothing is going to change.

You want to acquire those players as a stopgap because theres nothing here now? Fine. But it needs to come with an organizational commitment to draft and develop those types of players. It hasn't.
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I think the idea is to stop looking at just the next couple of years.
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If that's the case can we start selling off assets then?

Why does it have to be one or the other? Fill the role now AND develop some kids who can fill these roles. Why not? I liked the way Kantor looked in the pre-season but he is in the ECHL now. Straight ahead, North-South, hard to play against. Hopefully Yogan can continue to develop to be a 3rd/4th liner who can hit and provide some energy but who else is there?
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
If you keep asking yourself that question every single season, then nothing is going to change.

You want to acquire those players as a stopgap because theres nothing here now? Fine. But it needs to come with an organizational commitment to draft and develop those types of players. It hasn't.
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I like the idea of getting a couple of younger guys who can fill the roles moving forward. Clifford would be a good start. Dorsett was a good addition.
 
NYR Viper said:
If that's the case can we start selling off assets then?

Why does it have to be one or the other? Fill the role now AND develop some kids who can fill these roles. Why not? I liked the way Kantor looked in the pre-season but he is in the ECHL now. Straight ahead, North-South, hard to play against. Hopefully Yogan can continue to develop to be a 3rd/4th liner who can hit and provide some energy but who else is there?
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I think we're saying the same thing.
 
NYR Viper said:
I like the idea of getting a couple of younger guys who can fill the roles moving forward. Clifford would be a good start. Dorsett was a good addition.
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I just dont see the assets on the Rangers side. Are you going to trade Del Zotto for these types of players? Maybe in a 2 for 1 deal.

Draft picks? The Clowe debacle shows where that philosophy goes. Other roster players? Who? Nobody wants Pyatt or Pouliot.
 
Marcel Goc may also be a name that's available for the right price. Excellent penalty killer and great on faceoffs. You win in the playoffs with guys like him.
 
Looking over FLA's roster, damn they do not have much to offer. They aren't trading Barkov or Huberdeau. Probably wouldn't trade Gubranson either. Kulikov? Stated before that I like Bjugstad. The vets they have are overpriced with term left. Campbell has that ridiculous cap hit till the end of 2016. Steer clear of Versteeg and Fleischman.

Edit: Just saw Crows post. Goc if the price was right would be a good pick up.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
I just dont see the assets on the Rangers side. Are you going to trade Del Zotto for these types of players? Maybe in a 2 for 1 deal.

Draft picks? The Clowe debacle shows where that philosophy goes. Other roster players? Who? Nobody wants Pyatt or Pouliot.
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I will man up and say I thought Clowe would be a longer term solution than he was (and will be for the Devils) due to his injuries. I was wrong there.

I think that if MDZ is moved, they need to find a power forward-like young winger in return or look for a player like Clifford +. It's a need. This team will not fair well in this division with only Dorsett in the line-up with the way they play. Philly, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Washington and the Islanders are all very physical teams.

I Eat Crow said:
Marcel Goc may also be a name that's available for the right price. Excellent penalty killer and great on faceoffs. You win in the playoffs with guys like him.
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I was high on getting him but I worry about where he would play. Seems like a redundant move when they have Moore and Boyle already who excel in the same areas.
 
Championship said:
Looking over FLA's roster, damn they do not have much to offer. They aren't trading Barkov or Huberdeau. Probably wouldn't trade Gubranson either. Kulikov? Stated before that I like Bjugstad. The vets they have are overpriced with term left. Campbell has that ridiculous cap hit till the end of 2016. Steer clear of Versteeg and Fleischman.

Edit: Just saw Crows post. Goc if the price was right would be a good pick up.
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I like Matthias, Bjugstad and Kulikov (a bit).
 
Versteeg is overpriced. He was a scratch recently. Signed through 15-16. The Panthers roster is full of players Tallon had to sign in 2012 to reach the floor. He has been shopping them all season. Tallon signed Gilbert,Whitney and Gilroy to round out their D. He signed Jovo to that crazy contract. Acquired the Campbell contract from Chicago which Tallon gave to him. I like Bjugstad. If he needs to add D,swapping Kulikov for DZ doesn't work. Kulikov signed a 2 year bridge deal in 2012. He will be a group II with arb rights. The KHL will come calling too. Pass. Tallon has many young players in his system.
 
NYR Viper said:
I like Matthias, Bjugstad and Kulikov (a bit).
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you can add Erik Gudbranson to the list.. RH dman with some snarl and size... id love him on this team... id move Del Zotto as part of a package to get him
 
I think we could have what Gudbranson is in McIlrath. Gubranson certainly more likely to reach his ceiling but not sure I'd make him a main target.
 
Championship said:
Rather use assets to get things we don't have
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We need more than 1 mean, tough d-man.

SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
My guess is they don't go for boom or bust picks in the latter rounds, instead taking guys with potentially lower ceilings but a better chance at becoming an NHLer.
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Agreed. Not sure why it's so hard to find kids who can skate with limited offense who don't mind dropping the gloves.
 
Something around Fleischmann for Del Zotto? He has one year left after this @ 4.5. Not a hand cuff of a contract at all. Fills a big need for NYR (top-6 scoring LW). I think that'd be a perfect deal. I always thought he was a solid player, unless I'm missing something here?

Hagelin - Richards - Nash
Kreider - Stepan - Zucc
Fleischmann - Brassard - Callahan
Pouliot/Pyatt - Boyle/Moore - Dorsett

Now THAT'S some depth.
 
Just because Yakupov isn't available doesn't mean we should go and trade MDZ for the nearest 2nd/3rd line forward.
 
NYR Viper said:
We need more than 1 mean, tough d-man.



Agreed. Not sure why it's so hard to find kids who can skate with limited offense who don't mind dropping the gloves.
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Not saying we don't, but I'm not expending what it would cost to get him when we have something similar to him in McI and have other holes to fill.
 
RangerBlue62 said:
Something around Fleischmann for Del Zotto? He has one year left after this @ 4.5. Not a hand cuff of a contract at all. Fills a big need for NYR (top-6 scoring LW). I think that'd be a perfect deal. I always thought he was a solid player, unless I'm missing something here?

Hagelin - Richards - Nash
Kreider - Stepan - Zucc
Fleischmann - Brassard - Callahan
Pouliot/Pyatt - Boyle/Moore - Dorsett

Now THAT'S some depth.
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God no, that is terrible...
 
Wow Florida is in bad shape. Not just a bad team, but a bad and older team.

Consider (assuming my math is right)

Average age of forwards:

FLA: 27.5
NYR: 25


Average age of defensemen:

FLA: 29.5
NYR: 25.3
 
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