Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part III - 11/11 Yakupov willing to be moved

[Fitzy]

Sather trade Tyutin for Zherdev, I think he would probably trade MDZ for Yakupov.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Nash handcuffed Columbus by approving a trade to only five teams and not all of them had the cap space to take him on.

29 teams are kicking the tires on Yakupov, warts and all.

How many teams can afford to risk a sizeable package to take him?

What if he doesn't fit in their locker room either and pulls the same antics?

Small market teams will generally be excluded from making this trade. Why? They're small market - they can't afford to trade good, cheap and young assets for a risk this high.

After that it's pretty fair ball game but the larger market teams understand this as well. His value won't be as high as reported, if traded.

 

[Raspewtin]

In my opinion Yakupov's value is low right now. Similar to that of Kyle Turris when he asked for a trade out of PHX. He has 4 points. You can't overlook that, potential or no potential. He doesn't play defense, and the KHL is a very real risk. These points are all just brushed aside by Oilers fans it seems, they want a top pair defenseman + for him . Honestly I see him being moved for top 4 D + Prospect + 1st or 2nd.

 

[KingWantsCup]

It would be a dream come true to have a player with that caliber of skill that's that young. We don't tank so players like him are unavailable to us. Make the deal Slats. Work your fleecing magic.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

It would be a dream come true to have a player with that caliber of skill that's that young. We don't tank so players like him are unavailable to us. Make the deal Slats. Work your fleecing magic.

Del Zotto, Pyatt, Pouloit, and a 7th!!

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Del Zotto, Pyatt, Pouloit, and a 7th!!

done

 

[DutchShamrock]

His value is essentially less than a first rounder. The khl risk limits his value... if teams pass on bonafide Russian talent because of that league, his return absolutely gets reduced here. The killer for Edmonton is getting something before he bolts from them.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

done

Literally, let's give up our worst assets. Lol.

 

[nyrpassion]

Literally, let's give up our worst liabilities. Lol.

fixed

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

And the Blue Jackets would only be interested in Stepan, McD, or Kreider and only a package involving them...

Doesn't matter what the Oilers are interested in. They're not the ones with the leverage. Yak is a risk. He can bolt. He hasn't lived up to expectations. He's a defensive liability on the ice. He's not putting up goals either. He's not a stellar member of the locker room according to any and all reports coming out of Edmonton. Might be a nice guy with good intentions but he's been labeled uncoachable and selfish.

Nash, an established leader with proven production, couldn't net one of Kreider, McD, or Stepan. Why would a 20 immature year old who hasn't put any of it together and is a risk to leave at any point or a risk to disrupt a locker room get more?

MDZ + would certainly get it done. Edm GM wants to save face. He **** up by not taking Murray. Only reason he hasn't traded Yak is so that he doesn't look like a complete moron for wasting the best possible pick in the draft during the clubs rebuilding.

Only thing is Rangers aren't pressuring Edmonton to make a deal because they have no need to. They're beginning to play well and the locker room is beginning to gel. Nash is recovering, seemingly. Why disrupt that? If Yak continues to disappoint and/or begins voicing public displeasure with being on the club his value will only continue to go down. Similarly, if he gets better he may actually become off the table - as being reported. Only reason I'm calling BS that he's off the table now is because Edmonton has GLARING holes and are still rebuilding. They need a G, they need 4 D, Schultz was an epic fail too. DZ + another prospect defender (Skjei for example) would help them. Add in another veteran perhaps and that trade makes a lot of sense for Edmonton.

Looks like they'll get a top 3 pick. They have enough offense without Yak. They need to start picking defense. They'll take defense in this draft most likely. They need more. DZ is still young. Skjei is young.

Yak is not yielding McD or Girardi.

Get off of it people.

Think Edmonton is in a position of power? Yak can essentially choose where he wants to go. He can play the "go back to russia card". Radulov did it and was still accepted back in the NHL. Zherdev had a similar problem. Nino with the Islanders.

MDZ +. Now is Sather willing to let go of that... that's really the question.

Yak will be gone by deadline.

In my opinion Yakupov's value is low right now. Similar to that of Kyle Turris when he asked for a trade out of PHX. He has 4 points. You can't overlook that, potential or no potential. He doesn't play defense, and the KHL is a very real risk. These points are all just brushed aside by Oilers fans it seems, they want a top pair defenseman + for him . Honestly I see him being moved for top 4 D + Prospect + 1st or 2nd.

His value is essentially less than a first rounder. The khl risk limits his value... if teams pass on bonafide Russian talent because of that league, his return absolutely gets reduced here. The killer for Edmonton is getting something before he bolts from them.

Completely agreed. And I'll add to that - Hockey's Future posters, by their very nature, inflate the value of a) their teams' own draftees, b) anyone drafted with a high pick and c) anyone under the age of 22. I mean, seriously - when was the last time a player with any of those criteria was traded and he netted the kind of ridiculous returns HF posters forecast?

 

[DutchShamrock]

Considering the abominations EDM has been doing this week, I would say that's desperation. (or they are just bat **** crazy)

To be fair sather has made more solid trades, of course not in the same huge impact as a McDonaugh. Avery worked wonderfully for us for awhile considering we gave up (I want to say Ward?) for him.

Sat her acquired jagr at half salary for carter. I don't think we are remotely in the running for nail, but I don't doubt sather's prowess in trades, especially with volatile situations. Edmonton, from a position of job security, needs to rectify the yakupov draft pick. That is desperation.

 

[Mikos87]

Okay I think given all of the factors surrounding Yakupov; flight risk to KHL, commitment to defense, mouthing off in the media, and all the hub bub surrounding this are real real red flags. Kovalchuk, another 1st overall Russian just bolted with 70+M on his deal.

Filatov

Zherdev

Chistov

Svitov

Burmistrov

All of these guys were top ten picks these certain coincidences around them that lead to their fate.

He will make millions more in Russia in just one year. Millions. He already bolted for the KHL once during the lockout. Every junior age player out of the CHL goes back to juniors if they can't make the NHL team, but Yak went after the dollars in the KHL. He has a taste of what that is already.

I believe with the exception of Jenson from Vancouver, no European born player trained and drafted through the CHL ever went back to Europe when not being able to play for their NHL team during their junior age seasons. Yak did.

I will gladly make an NHL trade for Yakupov, giving EDM what it needs, if the Rangers needs are met, but there is no way in hell would I trade guys that play valuable minutes on a flight risk.

Brassard, Pouliot, Hrivik, Skjei

Yak, Jones.

More than fair.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Sat her acquired jagr at half salary for carter. I don't think we are remotely in the running for nail, but I don't doubt sather's prowess in trades, especially with volatile situations. Edmonton, from a position of job security, needs to rectify the yakupov draft pick. That is desperation.

The only reason we would not be remotely in the running for Nail is if Sather was unwilling to part with MDZ.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Okay I think given all of the factors surrounding Yakupov; flight risk to KHL, commitment to defense, mouthing off in the media, and all the hub bub surrounding this are real real red flags. Kovalchuk, another 1st overall Russian just bolted with 70+M on his deal.

Filatov

Zherdev

Chistov

Svitov

Burmistrov

All of these guys were top ten picks these certain coincidences around them that lead to their fate.

He will make millions more in Russia in just one year. Millions. He already bolted for the KHL once during the lockout. Every junior age player out of the CHL goes back to juniors if they can't make the NHL team, but Yak went after the dollars in the KHL. He has a taste of what that is already.

I believe with the exception of Jenson from Vancouver, no European born player trained and drafted through the CHL ever went back to Europe when not being able to play for their NHL team during their junior age seasons. Yak did.

I will gladly make an NHL trade for Yakupov, giving EDM what it needs, if the Rangers needs are met, but there is no way in hell would I trade guys that play valuable minutes on a flight risk.

Brassard, Pouliot, Hrivik, Skjei

Yak, Jones.

More than fair.

yikes i wouldnt deal Brassard for Yak straight up


id deal Del Zotto Pyatt Boyle and Fogarty
for Yak, Eager

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

yikes i wouldnt deal Brassard for Yak straight up


id deal Del Zotto Pyatt Boyle and Fogarty
for Yak, Eager

Del Zotto, Hrvik, and Skjei should be enticing. 2 defenders, 1 close offensive prospect, 1 high upside but unrefined defensive prospect, and a 23 year old with untapped potential similar to Yak's untapped potential. At least DZ has coachability and experience most of the other team doesn't have.

Pyatt won't go. AV loves him. Can see Poo being dealt though. He's the obvious odd man out. With CK earning a spot, Nash and Moore coming back, Poo is the odd man out anyway.

 

[dubycally91]

Do you think the Rangers have the depth at defense to include DZ in a move for Yakupov?

 

[Thirty One]

Trade Proposal: Rangers and Oilers






To Rangers: Jason Labarbera
To Oilers: Arron Asham

Oilers have 3 goalies on one-way contracts. They have Richard Bachman and two other goalies in the minors already.

They have the same $1,000,000 cap hit expiring this summer. Labarbera would carry the same $75,000 cap hit as Asham in the minors. Oilers need MOAR toughness.

 

[SA16]

All of those are bad offers. As in not enough.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Do you think the Rangers have the depth at defense to include DZ in a move for Yakupov?

Allen should get a call up before Del Zotto gets dealt. didnt look out of place in preseason and deserves a shot

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

All of those are bad offers.

To the Oilers? They're generous for a player who could very well pack his bags up and leave at any moment or never amount to the hype he has.

 

[SA16]

To the Oilers. We don't have exclusive trade rights with them. None of those offers are close to being the best they will get around the entire league.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

To the Oilers. We don't have exclusive trade rights with them. None of those offers are close to being the best they will get around the entire league.

Well you can count out small market teams dealing for Yak.

Flyers could give Simmonds but that doesn't fill a need for Yak. Schenn is under achieving and has a larger cap.

Wash could be a match but they don't have a trading M.O.

Pitt could be a match but would their package be much better than ours?

 

[Thirty One]

Well you can count out small market teams dealing for Yak.

Why?

 

[Kwayry]

To the Oilers. We don't have exclusive trade rights with them. None of those offers are close to being the best they will get around the entire league.

Curious, how do you know that?

 

[SA16]

Why are we counting out small market teams? He's on a ELC.

Curious, how do you know that?

It's fairly obvious given 29 teams available to make offers for a guy who was the first overall pick last year scoring 17 goals in 48 games and these offers are all revolving around a 2nd pairing defenseman who many people want to get rid of and a solid prospect. If they don't get better offers they can just not trade him. He's affordable and had a good year their already. Should we have traded Kreider for nothing after he had a poor "second" year in the NHL (and at an older age?). There's also no evidence he is interested in going back to Russia and picking a few guys who did and neglecting the ones who didn't isn't really a good reason to say he will be.