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That's a huge overpayment from the Rangers. Stepan for JVR is about equal. MDZ for Kadri is about equal. The rest you're just giving away.
Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Part X: Sather Falls Asleep on the Phone
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That's a huge overpayment from the Rangers. Stepan for JVR is about equal. MDZ for Kadri is about equal. The rest you're just giving away.
DZ's career resembles the Dow Jones daily chart. Up and down. Other teams have noticed too. Its his 5th year in the league. The guy makes the same mistakes he made in his rookie year.
Girardi will be the best free agent defenseman in the market this summer. I trust Kyper's report on the Girardi contract talks going nowhere. Girardi is a Newport client. Kyper had the Phaneuf contract terms in October. Phaneuf is a Newport client. Girardi can get seven years from another team. There will be many teams offering seven years. He will get seven years. He will get big dollars and big term. If the Rangers don't want to give Girardi the type of contract he wants,another team will give it to him.
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eco's bones
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Forget Girardi and Zibanejad. Not going to happen. Ottawa's not going anywhere this year. Real contenders are the teams that are going to be looking for Girardi as a player who solidifies their D and maybe puts them over the top. The 1st's you might get for him are very likely to be at the bottom end of the round between 27 and 30--unless we move him to Anaheim and get Ottawa's 1st from the Ducks. Boston, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Anaheim, St. Louis, San Jose, Vancouver, Chicago, the Caps--these are the potential destinations where the Rangers can get the most value from moving Girardi. Toronto might be another place as that city more than any other might have the best chance of signing him as a UFA.
But if the Rangers move him--their chances if they exist at all when that happens are going to be much worse for this year. So there's the question whether Sather will hang onto him and risk losing him for nothing.
But if the Rangers move him--their chances if they exist at all when that happens are going to be much worse for this year. So there's the question whether Sather will hang onto him and risk losing him for nothing.
HatTrick Swayze
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As much as we may disagree, I can 100% envision a scenario where the Rangers hang onto everyone at the deadline to "try to make a run." Maybe adding a rental or two even.
I might even argue this is the most likely outcome. Is Sather ACTUALLY gonna throw in the towel on this season? Not sure I see it.
I might even argue this is the most likely outcome. Is Sather ACTUALLY gonna throw in the towel on this season? Not sure I see it.
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Please. I wouldn't offer Stepan straight up for Kadri who is a complete headcase. I sure as heck wouldn't offer up MDZ, Girardi and a 1st for JVR.
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This is what I see happening as well. They can always throw more money around in the off-season on new players as ill advised as it would be.
The only player I really think they may trade is Del Zotto if they can find the right return. I don't think AV cares for his game, and I doubt they are looking forward to trying to resign him as he has no reason "to come to his senses" as an arbitration eligible RFA.
Throw in the towel?
Then he should pay Girardi and Callahan right now because the price won't be going down. Give both of them 7 years at $6M per. The Rangers would have exactly $33M tied up in Lundqvist,Nash,Callahan,McDonagh and Girardi. How much longer will Sather be the GM around here? The next guy will have an impossible job with so many players to sign at exorbitant prices because everyone wants a raise with the cap going up. The free agent market stinks. Then Dolan will blame the next guy. Sather should remain the GM until the Callahan/Girardi 7 year contracts expire.
Its either pay them or trade them or let them leave as free agents
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Black and white.
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What do you think they will do?
I think they keep them, come out with the standard line "We will try to get them resigned"
They'll shop on the first day of free agency, and they'll either overpay for their own UFAs or imported ones depending on who is available and who wants to come to the team.
There is no concrete planning, it's all based on which ever agent calls back, from there they just keep upping their offer until they sign.
I see it as rediculus but is that not what they pretty much do every year?
PlamsUnlimited
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If by jittery he means an absolute abomination then yes he has been jittery. It is hard watching MDZ play right now.
I wonder what his career path would look like if he didn't have that amazing 15 game start to his career which perfectly coincided with us desperately needing a PP QB.
The hell kind of proposal is this? Overpayment by us like crazy. Stepan is worth Kadri+ alone, not JVR but he will bring back wayyyyy more. Girardi and a 1st in a trade for JVR and Kadri? Christ. You wanna trade the whole team
Glen Sathers Cigar
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I remember seeing a report from Kypreos saying Girardi wasn't asking for anything crazy on his next contract.
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I think we should stay away from moving Stepan and picks for now, and to a lesser extent, Girardi
smoneil
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Del Zotto deserves a boatload of credit for not demanding a trade. Even in a season where he has struggled, he has been significantly better than three of the guys who have played ahead of him this year (Moore, Falk, and, never thought I'd say it, but Staal has been horrid this year). Every time he gets sent to the press box (while others, who have been far worse, continue to play), AV ***** on DZ to the media (usually while praising a bum like J.Moore).
At this point, might as well just trade him, because I can't see him even wanting to play here under AV.
At this point, might as well just trade him, because I can't see him even wanting to play here under AV.
NYR Viper
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If the Rangers sign Callahan or Girardi for big money and 7 years this team will continue to flounder. They need more skill. They have some of it, they need more. Move them. Do a quick rebuild by moving some of the pending UFA's. It's okay to move Callahan. And Girardi and Boyle and still look to acquire a player they really like and feel they can resign ala SJ and Torres. Time for the team to build a team for the new NHL.
PlamsUnlimited
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Almost agreed about everything but someone posted around here that apparently Dan Girardi isn't asking for big big numbers. If that's the case I want him back.
eco's bones
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DZ was our worst d-man vs. TB the other night. He screwed up chasing the play on the Johnson pwp goal. He and Girardi got mixed up on the Palat goal and that play where he slid over to the right side leaving the whole left side and St. Louis unchecked was pretty ****ed up.
DZ could demand a trade--I'm not sure that would bring a lot more buyers out of the woodwork. In any case I think everyone knows by now that the Rangers are trying to deal him. He has little if any leverage. IMO DZ's not better than the bum John Moore. Both of them are prone to about the same amount of ****ed up decisions. Moore is slightly younger--bigger--a lot better skater and on a cheaper contract. Say it again and again but DZ's current $2.55 mil per year contract is part of the reason the Rangers need to move him as that's the base his next contract this summer is going to start from. He's not worth the money he's making now. Stralman for one is making a lot less than that and is a lot steadier player.
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