Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals Thread 2013-2014 | Part VI

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I'm confused.

I thought O'Reilly couldn't be traded this year because of the offer-sheet matching?

I'd be interested, but I doubt that he comes here anyway. Ottawa missed that boat last year. That said we don't need another forward. Our forward group is fine. We need a top 4 defender and better structure.

The rule is that a player cannot be traded for one full year after the offer sheet is matched. If the anniversary date is before the trade deadline then it is all good.
 

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The rule is that a player cannot be traded for one full year after the offer sheet is matched. If the anniversary date is before the trade deadline then it is all good.

Yep, he signed February 28th and the deadline is March 5th.
 

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I'd love to have a player like O'Reilly on the team, but taking on contracts that cost significant money is now passé is these parts. We don't have the pieces to put together a tempting offer anyway, unless we package up Zibby and Cowen or something along those lines. I'd rather wait for Zibby to develop.
 

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It would be Spezza+ for Backes.

Yeah, I was just d*cking around. Though a realistic package around Shattenkirk might be interesting to consider, if we could also manage a top 6 type coming back.
 

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I'd love to have a player like O'Reilly on the team, but taking on contracts that cost significant money is now passé is these parts. We don't have the pieces to put together a tempting offer anyway, unless we package up Zibby and Cowen or something along those lines. I'd rather wait for Zibby to develop.

We could easily say to Colorado "We will trade you Cowen + a prospect + 2nd, but you will need to take Michalek back for our internal budget."


Avalanche are below us in the pay scale so they can afford to take on contracts.

They are loaded with forwards and that is why they can move ROR without hurting themselves. What they need is some defenders which is why it was funny seeing them take MacKinnon over Jones.

If they trade ROR, they still have Landeskog, Duchene, MacKinnon, Stastny (for the time being), Parenteau, Tanguay, in their top 6.
 

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We could easily say to Colorado "We will trade you Cowen + a prospect + 2nd, but you will need to take Michalek back for our internal budget."


Avalanche are below us in the pay scale so they can afford to take on contracts.

They are loaded with forwards and that is why they can move ROR without hurting themselves. What they need is some defenders which is why it was funny seeing them take MacKinnon over Jones.

If they trade ROR, they still have Landeskog, Duchene, MacKinnon, Stastny (for the time being), Parenteau, Tanguay, in their top 6.

I don't think that Cowen++ would get it done, and I can't see us moving our 2nd after we have already traded away our first. I agree that the Avs have the depth to trade ROR, but I stick by my position that we do not have pieces attractive enough to get it done. 9MM adds nothing to the proposal as an underperforming player that will be a UFA this summer. If anything, adding 9MM would mean we have to sweeten the pot considerably on our end.
 

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What could we realistically get for Michalek? The PHX board has some interest but hoping that they get him at the trade deadline and have the Sens take back some salary. I think that's highly unlikely from the Sens end but what could we get for him at the trade deadline from a team looking to go over the top?
 

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What could we realistically get for Michalek? The PHX board has some interest but hoping that they get him at the trade deadline and have the Sens take back some salary. I think that's highly unlikely from the Sens end but what could we get for him at the trade deadline from a team looking to go over the top?

I don't know. But make it Boedker. Somehow.

I tried Milo and Cowen for Klesla and Boedker a couple weeks ago but they weren't sold.
 

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I don't think that Cowen++ would get it done, and I can't see us moving our 2nd after we have already traded away our first. I agree that the Avs have the depth to trade ROR, but I stick by my position that we do not have pieces attractive enough to get it done. 9MM adds nothing to the proposal as an underperforming player that will be a UFA this summer. If anything, adding 9MM would mean we have to sweeten the pot considerably on our end.

If you read the previous page where this discussion started, it was based on a rumor by eckland that the Avs want a D, a prospect and a 2nd round pick for ROR. You would have also noted that I said in the previous post that it would be a 2015 pick, not 2014 pick.

I do not think taking back Michalek is that much of a detriment to the deal that we have to add on our end.

he does have 14 pts which is only 3 less than ROR. (let's just hope they don't care about +/- :help:)
 

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Was reading on Senschirp that apparently Spector has a room out that the Islanders are looking at Anderson. Apparently Ottawa has been trying to trade him for a while. What do you think we would be looking at?
 

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To the people saying "let's trade Anderson", who will be our backup and/or starter be then?

Lehner being our starter is somewhat sketchy considering he's really young. But if he's our backup, who's our new starter? Lawson? Who's going to fill Andy's spot?
 

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Was reading on Senschirp that apparently Spector has a room out that the Islanders are looking at Anderson. Apparently Ottawa has been trying to trade him for a while. What do you think we would be looking at?

Considering the Isles need dmen as badly as we do, I could see a deal around one of Grabner, Clutterbuck, or Bailey. Not that i'd do it.
 

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To the people saying "let's trade Anderson", who will be our backup and/or starter be then?

Lehner being our starter is somewhat sketchy considering he's really young. But if he's our backup, who's our new starter? Lawson? Who's going to fill Andy's spot?

Back up goalies are on waivers weekly.
 

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To the people saying "let's trade Anderson", who will be our backup and/or starter be then?

Lehner being our starter is somewhat sketchy considering he's really young. But if he's our backup, who's our new starter? Lawson? Who's going to fill Andy's spot?

Absolutely This .... Trading Anderson does nothing if we trade him for another goalie ... it's a wash, maybe Anderson is having a bad year and will be amazing again next season, who the **** knows. The guy was ****ing spectacular for 2 seasons in a row and has been bad this season, that doesn't mean he will never be good again.

We need to get some defense or offense in our top 6 and if we get a good value package for Anderson then sure let's trade him. We will be equally ****ed then since we won't have a true #1 starter or a proven one atleast, Lehner will have his up's and downs. And even in the case Lehenr proves he is the #1, we won't have a back-up for him which Andy currently can be.

Sens need to keep Anderson but if they put him in that back-up role, let him fight for the spot again and maybe he'll get some fire to win his spot back again.
 

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What about Spezza for Gormley, Boedker, 1st or 2nd..

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Perfect! Then if Lehner gets injured we can rely on our waiver-pickup-goalie and Lawson/Hammond. That duo should serve us extremely well!

:shakehead

Andy has not been lights out for us. Who says we wouldn't be better with Lehner/Lawson than we are Anderson/Lehner?

If you do not want Lawson, Calgary has 3 goalies and one could serve as back up, we could bring over someone from Europe or give one of the AHL goalies that does not have a contract with an NHL team a shot.

I know for a fact Danny Taylor would come be the back up for Ottawa. As much as he is enjoying Sweden he and his wife miss Canada and their family.
 

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You do realize most teams have only 1 good goalie right?

You do realize that most cup winning teams have more than 1 good goalie right?

If winning a cup is what we want, we need more than 1 good tender. Chicago last season = Crawford and Emery. LA = rode a hot Jonathan Quick the entire season with Bernie in the stands. Boston = Thomas and Rask. Chicago in 09/10 had Huet and Niemi who were both strong. Detroit had Osgoode and Hasek.

Better chance of winning the cup if you have more than 1 good goalie. I want to win a cup, do you?
 

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If Murray has an option to trade Anderson for a solid piece (top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman) he should take it.

Every game that he continues to **** the bed in reduces his trade value further and that also means he is one game closer to being a UFA.

Also every game he is not starting means a better chance of winning.
 

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If Murray has an option to trade Anderson for a solid piece (top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman) he should take it.

Every game that he continues to **** the bed in reduces his trade value further and that also means he is one game closer to being a UFA.

Also every game he is not starting means a better chance of winning.

I agree, but it's still a risk. Besides, it's not like anyone is going to trade something like that for Anderson unless he starts playing a lot better. And if he does start playing a lot better, would the Sens want to trade him anyway?

Depends on where they are in the standings I guess.
 
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