Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals Thread 2013-2014 | Part VI

[HSF]

real rumour!

per dreger
quote:
Sources say the ottawa senators are also still in the mix [for michael del zotto], although the sudden and impressive emergence of rookie cody ceci may have cooled the sens' interest. And providing ceci can maintain his play, the senators may be willing to move either gryba, corvo or weircoch to one of the many teams in the market for a defenceman.

 

[guyzeur]

I don't need to dream. I went X-Mas shopping with Lehner two weekends ago!

And by went shopping with, I mean we were both shopping in the market, and I followed him around...

Did he notice you?

 

[Senscore]

I would seriously consider any offer for Gryba.

 

[Sensinitis]

Assuming there are any offers for Gryba, of course.

 

[saskriders]

or Corvo

 

[benjiv1]

Did he notice you?

LOL Yah

Him and Hoffman passed me and my buddy on the sidewalk, and I did a double take and said "Whoa that's Lehner and Hoffman".

Hoffman turned to Lehner and said, "Someone recognized me!". They laughed and waved to us. We crossed paths a couple more times in a few stores over the hour.

The friend I was with actually speaks Swedish, but he's a Rangers fan. He threatened to badmouth me in front of Lehner if I made him go over and talk.

 

[guyzeur]

LOL Yah

Him and Hoffman passed me and my buddy on the sidewalk, and I did a double take and said "Whoa that's Lehner and Hoffman".

Hoffman turned to Lehner and said, "Someone recognized me!". They laughed and waved to us. We crossed paths a couple more times in a few stores over the hour.

The friend I was with actually speaks Swedish, but he's a Rangers fan. He threatened to badmouth me in front of Lehner if I made him go over and talk.

too bad you didn't force him to talk to Lehn, He would have beat the crap out of the Rangers' fan.

Nice story. Not sure why I don't get any anecdotes like that, maybe I should get out of Cumberland more often.

 

[benjiv1]

too bad you didn't force him to talk to Lehn, He would have beat the crap out of the Rangers' fan.

Nice story. Not sure why I don't get any anecdotes like that, maybe I should get out of Cumberland more often.

I've actually met Lehner before. Having worked as a manger at the theatre in Kanata, I have a ton of good first hand player stories. Karlsson could drive a bus full of nuns off a bus, and I'd still think him a saint.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

I've actually met Lehner before. Having worked as a manger at the theatre in Kanata, I have a ton of good first hand player stories. Karlsson could drive a bus full of nuns off a bus, and I'd still think him a saint.

That would be some feat

 

[YNWA14]

Apparently Omark is available.

Wouldn't mind trading Gryba for him. Omark has put up great numbers at every level, but hasn't been given much of a chance in Edmonton. He played on the same team as Zetterberg during the lockout and put up some ridiculous numbers.

I'd give him a shot in Ottawa.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Apparently Omark is available.

Wouldn't mind trading Gryba for him. Omark has put up great numbers at every level, but hasn't been given much of a chance in Edmonton. He played on the same team as Zetterberg during the lockout and put up some ridiculous numbers.

I'd give him a shot in Ottawa.

This is exactly the type of trade Gryba would be involved in. Good thinking.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Apparently Omark is available.

Wouldn't mind trading Gryba for him. Omark has put up great numbers at every level, but hasn't been given much of a chance in Edmonton. He played on the same team as Zetterberg during the lockout and put up some ridiculous numbers.

I'd give him a shot in Ottawa.

Why? Depth defenseman are useful. Omark isn't a NHL player. That's something for nothing.

 

[Tundraman]

I've actually met Lehner before. Having worked as a manger at the theatre in Kanata, I have a ton of good first hand player stories. Karlsson could drive a bus full of nuns off a bus, and I'd still think him a saint.

You picked the right time of year to be one.

btw) On a totally off topic subject... would a trade with the Oilers make sense. If the future is Wiercioch, Cowen, Borocop on the left (plus Phillips for 1 or 2 more years) then maybe Methot for ???

 

[YNWA14]

Why? Depth defenseman are useful. Omark isn't a NHL player. That's something for nothing.

He put up 30 points in 50 games as a 23 year old, and has pretty much been a p/g player or better in all the leagues he's played in since.

I think that he could definitely play in the NHL if he was given a chance to. We have plenty of Gryba like players -- we don't have a lot of Omark like players.

 

[Micklebot]

Why? Depth defenseman are useful. Omark isn't a NHL player. That's something for nothing.

It would be another low risk, high reward move, a la 3rd round pick for Filatov.

We have 8 D on the team plus Boroweicki down in Bingo, all of which are NHL ready or in Ceci's case close to it and Corvo and Gryba have no guarantee to be back next year. Boro is on a one way next year, Ceci might be ready full time by then, Corvo is likely gone.

 

[Rodzilla]

Why? Depth defenseman are useful. Omark isn't a NHL player. That's something for nothing.

He can't crack the Oilers line-up, that's something too. Guy is a career AHLer, perfect fit for the European style of play. No value, he would clear waivers again if he had too.

 

[ATdaisuki]

He can't crack the Oilers line-up, that's something too. Guy is a career AHLer, perfect fit for the European style of play. No value, he would clear waivers again if he had too.

isn't he a left winger though? hard to get past hall and perron.

macarthur/omark - turris - ryan
macarthur/omark - spezza - zibby
conacher - pageau - michalek
greening - smith - neil

if management thinks ceci is here for good and is set on moving a defenseman, then moving our 6th/7th/8th/9th defenseman for a project like omark might be worth it. better than a 3rd or fourth rounder in my opinion.

 

[Sensinitis]

lol, omark sucks. not what we need. soft player that isn't good enough for top six and can't play bottom six because too small and weak and unwilling to engage. no thanks.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

You guys are making me feel like I took my crazy pills this morning.

We're talking about Linus Omark. He turns 27 in February and has only managed to play in the NHL on a league worst team. There are countless players who've managed to put up half decent numbers on awful teams. Bobby Butler anyone? Mike Hoffman is 2+ years younger than him, bigger and currently putting up better numbers in the AHL than Omark.

Does anyone seriously think Omark would be able to earn big minutes under Maclean? He comes from the Oilers organization (can't make their team either), so its probably not a stretch to say he doesn't have much of a concept of team defense, which is something Mac demands.

Gryba on the other hand has earned his way into the NHL, and not onto an awful bottom feeder like the Oil. He came in, played 20+ minutes a night against top competition and helped us into a playoff spot. That's exactly the role he may be needed for again. NHL teams need to be 8-9D deep to stay competitive. The possibility of having 3-4 regulars out of the line up is a very real one (as we all should know by now). The role of the NHL defenseman these days is to get shot at by 100mph pucks, get cross checked from behind, boarded on dump and chases and suspended for hits that were celebrated a decade ago. THEY MISS GAMES. Check out Pittsburgh's D for tonight:

Matt Niskanen - Oli Maatta
Brian Dumolin - Robert Bortuzzo
Philip Samuelsson - Simon Despres

They're staying competitive because of their depth from within. The last thing you want to do is lose a bunch of defenders and have to bring someone in from outside the organization who's going to take a few weeks or months to adjust or dress 3-4 rookies. Gryba knows our system, coaches and players. He's ready to come fill in a top 4 spot when needed, he's done it before. Gryba brings a lot as a depth defender to this club.

Useful vs. Useless.

 

[Qward]

I think we have another case of

"Player X is available? Player X would look good on a line with player Y. I hope my team ______ get's him! Don't miss the boat (insert GM name here)!"


If this was 3 years ago and we were short on prospects and Omark was younger, I would be for it. Not now.

 

[TheNewEra]

Omark wouldn't be bad as a project pickup (aka filatov), worst case we could use him as a shootout specialist which would help us. That being said gryba has more value then him so I would want a spec/pick along with omark for gryba or just trade a 6th/7th for omark and hope for the best

 

[Benjamin]

Omark is pure garbage. Waste of time and assets.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

You guys are making me feel like I took my crazy pills this morning.

We're talking about Linus Omark. He turns 27 in February and has only managed to play in the NHL on a league worst team. There are countless players who've managed to put up half decent numbers on awful teams. Bobby Butler anyone? Mike Hoffman is 2+ years younger than him, bigger and currently putting up better numbers in the AHL than Omark.

Does anyone seriously think Omark would be able to earn big minutes under Maclean? He comes from the Oilers organization (can't make their team either), so its probably not a stretch to say he doesn't have much of a concept of team defense, which is something Mac demands.

Gryba on the other hand has earned his way into the NHL, and not onto an awful bottom feeder like the Oil. He came in, played 20+ minutes a night against top competition and helped us into a playoff spot. That's exactly the role he may be needed for again. NHL teams need to be 8-9D deep to stay competitive. The possibility of having 3-4 regulars out of the line up is a very real one (as we all should know by now). The role of the NHL defenseman these days is to get shot at by 100mph pucks, get cross checked from behind, boarded on dump and chases and suspended for hits that were celebrated a decade ago. THEY MISS GAMES. Check out Pittsburgh's D for tonight:

Matt Niskanen - Oli Maatta
Brian Dumolin - Robert Bortuzzo
Philip Samuelsson - Simon Despres

They're staying competitive because of their depth from within. The last thing you want to do is lose a bunch of defenders and have to bring someone in from outside the organization who's going to take a few weeks or months to adjust or dress 3-4 rookies. Gryba knows our system, coaches and players. He's ready to come fill in a top 4 spot when needed, he's done it before. Gryba brings a lot as a depth defender to this club.

Useful vs. Useless.

Damn, youre so right. Great post.

 

[YNWA14]

I find the word 'trash' 'garbage' and 'sucks' are thrown around far too often on this board when referring to professional hockey players. How many players on this team have ever put up a 50 point pace ever in their careers?

I'm not saying it has to be done or anything like that, but Omark has shown the ability to be productive in the NHL -- and in every other league.

It probably doesn't happen, but it isn't stupid to discuss given the other trades thrown around constantly. Even if Omark is only as good as he was in his rookie year that's still more productive than every other winger we have not named Ryan or MacArthur.

At this point I sure as hell would rather take a chance on Omark playing in the top 6 than Michalek (at least how he's played this year).

 

[benjiv1]

I find the word 'trash' 'garbage' and 'sucks' are thrown around far too often on this board when referring to professional hockey players. How many players on this team have ever put up a 50 point pace ever in their careers?

I'm not saying it has to be done or anything like that, but Omark has shown the ability to be productive in the NHL -- and in every other league.

It probably doesn't happen, but it isn't stupid to discuss given the other trades thrown around constantly. Even if Omark is only as good as he was in his rookie year that's still more productive than every other winger we have not named Ryan or MacArthur.

At this point I sure as hell would rather take a chance on Omark playing in the top 6 than Michalek (at least how he's played this year).

Zibanejad and Conacher say hi.