Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals Thread 2013-2014 | Part VI

[saskriders]

Would love a guy like Backes or Perron. Ceci has helped our blue line, and so has an improving Cowen, but we still need help on defence and a top 6 winger. Are any good 2 way forwards available?

Mac-Spezza/Turris-Ryan
xxx-Spezza/Turris-Zib
Greening-Pageau-Condra
Conacher-Smith-Neil

Meth-Karl
Phillips-Ceci
Wier-Cowen

Is there a way to upgrade Michalek and fill in the xxx

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Unbelievable how Ceci changes the entire dynamic of our team.

Cowen has been playing brilliant hockey lately, Ceci too, Karlsson is getting his game back.. and we don't even have Methot back yet.

I still say get a top 3 defender and this team becomes a different kind of threat.

Call me crazy but I'd package Wiercioch.

 

[WhiteLight*]

Unbelievable how Ceci changes the entire dynamic of our team.

Cowen has been playing brilliant hockey lately, Ceci too, Karlsson is getting his game back.. and we don't even have Methot back yet.

I still say get a top 3 defender and this team becomes a different kind of threat.

Call me crazy but I'd package Wiercioch.

You're crazy. Phillips, Methot, Cowen, Boro… they're not PP threats at all (not yet for Cowen anyway). Wiercioch is the only left handed PP guy. He should have been out there in overtime tonight. MacArthur was full of fail on the PP.

-------Ryan/Zib
Spezza ------ Wiercioch
------Karlsson

He's too good with too much potential to trade

lol that's why I said possibly top 2

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

You're crazy. Phillips, Methot, Cowen, Boro… they're not PP threats at all (not yet for Cowen anyway). Wiercioch is the only left handed PP guy. He should have been out there in overtime tonight. MacArthur was full of fail on the PP.

-------Ryan/Zib
Spezza ------ Wiercioch
------Karlsson

He's too good with too much potential to trade

But you never took into consideration what we were getting back for Wiercioch. I was saying to package Wiercioch for a more established number 3 PMD now. Let's use Enstrom for example.

Karlsson, Enstrom, Ceci, Wikstrand.

Cowen-Karlsson
Methot-Enstrom
Ceci-Phillips/Boro
Gryba/Wikstrand/Claesson/Wideman

Works for me.

 

[Benjamin]

Call me crazy but I'd package Wiercioch.

Eventually. For sure not this season or next season.

Good contract and adds competition for Ceci while he's eased in.

Cowen/Methot-Karlsson
Cowen/Methot-Ceci/Wiercioch
Phillips/Boro-Wiercioch/Ceci

Edit: Post above works though

 

[Sensinitis]

I'm alright with doing that, as long as I get the last word.

I won't be rude and leave somebody hanging if they feel the need to challenge my OPINION. If you disagree enough to write about it, I will reply. If you don't like that I reply, I suggest leaving the original comment alone.

taurus?

 

[GoSensGo6172]

In regards to the mention of Perron,, I was really hoping that the Sens would try to get him when it became apparent that the Blues didn't see him as part of their core. We could have easily topped Edmonton's offer, but we had already signed Clarke and they would have filled the exact same role on the team.

He's been a fantastic pick up for the Oil.

 

[arglebargle]

In regards to the mention of Perron,, I was really hoping that the Sens would try to get him when it became apparent that the Blues didn't see him as part of their core. We could have easily topped Edmonton's offer, but we had already signed Clarke and they would have filled the exact same role on the team.

He's been a fantastic pick up for the Oil.

Nah, he wouldn't have been redundant here at all. Spezza's played with Michalek and Conacher for most of the year so far. Getting Perron would have been huge.

 

[GoSensGo6172]

Nah, he wouldn't have been redundant here at all. Spezza's played with Michalek and Conacher for most of the year so far. Getting Perron would have been huge.

Money is the issue, that's what I was talking about. Their stats are almost identical and they play a similar style, so yes....it would have been redundant.

Perron-Spezza-Ryan
McArthur-Turris-Zibby

Yeah that's doable in NHL 14, not in real life.

 

[Benjamin]

Money is the issue, that's what I was talking about. Their stats are almost identical and they play a similar style, so yes....it would have been redundant.

Perron-Spezza-Ryan
McArthur-Turris-Zibby

Yeah that's doable in NHL 14, not in real life.

Thats very doable for a non-budget team.

The Sens could easily too if it weren't for Michalek.

 

[GoSensGo6172]

Thats very doable for a non-budget team.

The Sens could easily too if it weren't for Michalek.

Exactly, Perron has a cap hit of 3.8M and MacArthur's is 3.25. That's why I said it was one or the other.

Michalek's cap hit which has been well documented around here is 4.33M

I would take Perron over Michlaek every single time.

 

[YNWA14]

I wanted Perron for a long time back when he was still out with that vicious concussion. He would have been a great addition to the team.

 

[83DIZ65]

peron fits the teams time frame quite well too.........wish we woulda got him....but the way hes playin im guessin the asking price would be zibby+ .....no ****ing thank you.....

 

[83DIZ65]

however...... spezza michalek for perron gagner and a first possibly+ id be game for

 

[CanadianHockey]

however...... spezza michalek for perron gagner and a first possibly+ id be game for

Edmonton wouldn't...

 

[The Fuhr*]

Exactly, Perron has a cap hit of 3.8M and MacArthur's is 3.25. That's why I said it was one or the other.

Michalek's cap hit which has been well documented around here is 4.33M

I would take Perron over Michlaek every single time.

Salary means more to us then cap hit.
MM makes 6.0 this year
Perron makes 3.5

Would still have 2.5 left over to upgrade the D

 

[operasen]

But you never took into consideration what we were getting back for Wiercioch. I was saying to package Wiercioch for a more established number 3 PMD now. Let's use Enstrom for example.

Karlsson, Enstrom, Ceci, Wikstrand.

Cowen-Karlsson
Methot-Enstrom
Ceci-Phillips/Boro
Gryba/Wikstrand/Claesson/Wideman

Works for me.

We have to assume , at least for the short term future, Ceci stays up. That's a lot of D to be carrying and no-one else can go down without waivers. Something has to give.

Like that you mention both Claesson and Wikstrand, as I think they are a part of the equation moving into next year.

 

[StefanW]

We have to assume , at least for the short term future, Ceci stays up. That's a lot of D to be carrying and no-one else can go down without waivers. Something has to give.

Like that you mention both Claesson and Wikstrand, as I think they are a part of the equation moving into next year.

The easy solution, and the one I see as most likely, is to keep Ceci up for another game or two and then send him down. He will end up there again eventually this season, so why risk losing a guy in waivers and having an empty slot later.

 

[guyzeur]

We have to assume , at least for the short term future, Ceci stays up. That's a lot of D to be carrying and no-one else can go down without waivers. Something has to give.

Like that you mention both Claesson and Wikstrand, as I think they are a part of the equation moving into next year.

Like you two, I think Wikstrand is a great prospect but he will spend at least one year in Bingo.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Everyone is always so eager to trade wiercioch..He hasnt even played a hundred games in the NHL yet and some days he looks unreal...sees passes out of his own zone that no one else does. will be solid compliment to Ceci and Karlsson. hes not the same type of offensive defensman, he keeps the other team on its toes and hes .5 ppg player over his career so far. Hes still learning at the NHL and if we can get 30-45 point from him every year what more do you want from your fourth d man..we cant have 6 ppg defensmen...

 

[Berserker*]

Everyone is always so eager to trade wiercioch..He hasnt even played a hundred games in the NHL yet and some days he looks unreal...sees passes out of his own zone that no one else does. will be solid compliment to Ceci and Karlsson. hes not the same type of offensive defensman, he keeps the other team on its toes and hes .5 ppg player over his career so far. Hes still learning at the NHL and if we can get 30-45 point from him every year what more do you want from your fourth d man..we cant have 6 ppg defensmen...

The problem with Weircioch is that he is too slow and soft. For an offensive d man, he doesn't have anywhere near the mobility of Karlsson, Ceci or Corvo and for a guy his size, his physical game s nearly non existent and he gives forwards way too much time and space. Sure he has some upside but players are surpassing him on the depth chart pretty quickly.

 

[operasen]

Defence in two years could be some kind of

Cowen - Karlsson
Methot - Ceci
Borowiecki - Wikstrand
Claesson - Wiercioch
Gryba

Barring a trade or another stud D pick. That's still pretty rich if we just stay the course...

 

[Berserker*]

Defence in two years could be some kind of

Cowen - Karlsson
Methot - Ceci
Borowiecki - Wikstrand
Claesson - Wiercioch
Gryba

Barring a trade or another stud D pick. That's still pretty rich if we just stay the course...

I don't think Gryba will be with this organization in two years. Switch him with Sdao and then it is more realistic. Sdao is a decent d man and has the potential to be a heavyweight enforcer as he gets bigger, stronger and more experienced with fighting.

 

[operasen]

D men take longer I know, but this group is still pretty young. I like Gryba can be a rock, but I guess Boro will be there for that.

He's not a heavyweight, but I do like his game when he is "on"

 

[Berserker*]

D men take longer I know, but this group is still pretty young. I like Gryba can be a rock, but I guess Boro will be there for that.

He's not a heavyweight, but I do like his game when he is "on"

He was a heavyweight at the USHL level, and he has the potential to be a heavyweight at the NHL level once he gets more experience. But he still has a lot of work to do to take on the top heavies in this league.