How so? Nearly every trade is proposed is close to market value, fair for both organizations and somewhat realistic given the position that each organization is in at the moment. The only trade proposal that I think I could be vastly off in is the Michalek and Gryba for Simmonds trade. I think we may have to give something much more substantial to get that deal done.
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How so? Nearly every trade is proposed is close to market value, fair for both organizations and somewhat realistic given the position that each organization is in at the moment. The only trade proposal that I think I could be vastly off in is the Michalek and Gryba for Simmonds trade. I think we may have to give something much more substantial to get that deal done.
Seeing as it looks like this season is probably going to be a write off, I'm thinking there will probably only be "seller" trades this season, if any at all. Not sure if anyone that would garner interest on this team would get moved, though. Seems like the only players worthy of being traded right now are players that nobody would trade for.
Senators fans looking for a big trade this season will be lucky if they get a draft pick (in any round) or minor prospect for a roster player or minor prospect. I hope I'm wrong.
Senators fans looking for a big trade this season will be lucky if they get a draft pick (in any round) or minor prospect for a roster player or minor prospect. I hope I'm wrong.
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It is plausible, I just doubt that it happens.
Callahan would be a sick addition but I doubt NYR move him.
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Your proposals were actually pretty well thought out and made sense, I was referring to the majority of the other posts.
The only ones I don't like on your end is Michalek for Harntell or Stewart. Neither team would have any interest in that as Michalek is a pretty one dimensional player where as Hartnell and Stewart both contribute in many areas and bring far more to the table.
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Maybe if Edmonton called and offered Eberle, Nuge or Yakupov. There's very few teams that would be able to offer the what they'd be asking.
Not that Nashville would ever do it but Patric Hornqvist, I think, would be an interesting linemate option for Spezza. What is he worth, and can the Sens afford it?
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This is a difficult one. I think Ottawa is at a crossroads and needs to decide to continue building around Spezza, or move him. I don't expect they'll get a point-a-game player back in return. He's 30 and a free agent not too long from now who may or may not be a risk to sign long term (back issues as we all know). He is however a good leader and teammate and is recognized in Ottawa as the guy who organizes that locker room and gets all the young players involved. There are good reasons he was chosen as the captain.
My thoughts:
Simmonds or Voracek + Philly's next 1st
or
One of those guys + Read
for
Spezza & Conacher
Ottawa retains as much salary as is necessary to make the deal work for both sides. I really have no idea if this is possible or not. It would certainly give both teams a culture change. A bit of one anyway.
Flame away. I am curious to see what fans think of a deal like this. Another name that jumps out is Perron in Edmonton (fits the same mold of a young two-way winger to join the teams top six). I don't think a huge return can be expected for an aging star. The Yashin deal was sort of a one-hit wonder.
This is a difficult one. I think Ottawa is at a crossroads and needs to decide to continue building around Spezza, or move him. I don't expect they'll get a point-a-game player back in return. He's 30 and a free agent not too long from now who may or may not be a risk to sign long term (back issues as we all know). He is however a good leader and teammate and is recognized in Ottawa as the guy who organizes that locker room and gets all the young players involved. There are good reasons he was chosen as the captain.
My thoughts:
Simmonds or Voracek + Philly's next 1st
or
One of those guys + Read
for
Spezza & Conacher
Ottawa retains as much salary as is necessary to make the deal work for both sides. I really have no idea if this is possible or not. It would certainly give both teams a culture change. A bit of one anyway.
Flame away. I am curious to see what fans think of a deal like this. Another name that jumps out is Perron in Edmonton (fits the same mold of a young two-way winger to join the teams top six). I don't think a huge return can be expected for an aging star. The Yashin deal was sort of a one-hit wonder.
Doesn't mean it's not worth a hypothetical. One could argue it made no sense to trade Noesen, Silfverberg and a first for one player, which didn't stop it from happening. The Senators do have a glutton of Centers, something which Nashville has noticed about the team in the past....
Ya, I was kind of hoping that Michalek has more market value than we think around here. We need to move him this season and hopefully there is a team or two that covets him enough to part with something good. The logic behind my proposals were that both Hartnell and Stewart are struggling this season and are on similar contracts. So either St Louis or Philadelphia may be interested in trading a struggling player in return for another struggling player and hope a change of scenery does the trick. Aside from that, Michalek has an expiring contract whereas both Stewart and Hartnell have a few more years left. Therefore either team has the ability to free up a fair amount of cap space in the event that Michalek doesn't pan out.
Actually the more I think about it, I could see a Stewart for Michalek deal making sense for both parties. The Blues are going to make the playoffs and will be buyers at the deadline. Conversely, the Sens are very unlikely to be in a playoff spot at the deadline and will be sellers. Stewart is a piece that they would be willing to part with and Michalek has the potential to be a big addition going into the playoffs if he can get his game going. Stewart gives us a gritty power forward and if he doesn't quite develop his offensive game, he would be a much better 3rd liner for us than Michalek currently is. I think we may still need to add a prospect, pick or other roster player to get the deal done though but I think that addition would be fairly minor.
But then again, maybe you are right and Michalek really doesn't have any market value.
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Not if Hornqvist is the main piece.
It made a lot of sense to trade quantity for quality.
Pageau and Smith wont do it. Spezza, Turris and Zibanejad >>> Hornqvist.
Wiercioch + Condra for Grabner
Greening for Niskanen
Zibanajad Spezza Grabner
Mac Turris Ryan
Karlsson methot
Cowen Niskanen
Phillips boro/corvo
Greening for Niskanen
Zibanajad Spezza Grabner
Mac Turris Ryan
Karlsson methot
Cowen Niskanen
Phillips boro/corvo
A reasonable question. One Philly fans brought up immediately. I suppose it depends on how you view their depth chart.
Giroux is quite capable of playing wing on the first line. I believe he's done that quite well in the past.
Couts is basically locked in as 3C, maybe 2C in the future. Schenn is a big question mark & Lecav is pretty good but he's slow-old-health is a big question. Honest answer is I don't know. Maybe they do have too many centers to fit Spezza in. Maybe things shuffle around and it makes sense.
I do think the two teams make good trading partners if you're moving Spezza though. They have exactly the sort of player Ottawa would want back - a few of them. Reasonable targets I'd call them.
What about Grant, Michalek and a conditional pick (if he signs or not/no pick if he signs with the Preds) for Hornqvist?
Laphroaig
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No one is going to play anything close to this for Craig Anderson. The first round pick by itself is way too much.
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