Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals Thread 2013-2014 | Part IV

[Sun God Nika]

were 4 points out of playoff spot getting better game by game with 60 games left calm the **** down people.

Looks like I'm coming to become a Ducks now. I should've done this 7 years ago tbh.

Peace, if u cant stay with the team though thick and thin, u u definitely should have done this 7 years ago.

 

[HavlatMach9]

believe guys

we're in a pathetic conference which in and of itself puts us in a playoffs hunt, and this team will become better as the season goes on

 

[Quo]

It's not impossible.

 

[YNWA14]

I'm not concerned that the team won't make the playoffs -- it just won't go anywhere. Spezza isn't getting any younger, Michalek will be gone, Ryan might not re-sign after next year.

Believe it or not that trade we made for Ryan accelerated the retool portion of our progression and made it so that we, potentially, have a 2 year window here where we can make big noise in the playoffs. Not that we are limited to that 2 year window, but it's the only guaranteed window we have.

Not making a move for a top 4 defender and possibly a top 6 forward (both with experience) is silly IMO.

I mean anything can happen, but looking strictly at odds...meh. I guess this whole thing with Melnyk has really changed the team outlook.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

were 4 points out of playoff spot getting better game by game with 60 games left calm the **** down people.



Peace, if u cant stay with the team though thick and thin, u u definitely should have done this 7 years ago.

I like you

 

[Hale The Villain]

We won't be a lotto team, no need to worry about that.

We didn't pick top 5 in 2009 and 2011, which were historically bad seasons with a much worse roster than we have now. This team is a 10-20 pick team.

 

[HavlatMach9]

Not making a move for a top 4 defender and possibly a top 6 forward (both with experience) is silly IMO.

we will make a move if we're comfortably in a playoffs position by deadline, a bit like how the Oilers fixed their one weakness in the cup run.

 

[Indrew]

Peace, if u cant stay with the team though thick and thin, u u definitely should have done this 7 years ago.

I changed my mind. I am going to stay a Sens fan just to spite you. Carry on.

 

[SelleckStache]

This is the exact tweet:
Bryan Murray told @nic_st_pierre he isn't inclined to make a move and the solution can be found within. @Capital_Gains65 Translation?

I guess this season is just going to be a write off for us. Too bad we traded our 1st round pick.

How this gets twisted into: "The solution has to come from within because we have a broke owner and we're too cheap and I'm completely incapable of making a trade to save my life" is beyond me.

 

[King Karlsson]

How this gets twisted into: "The solution has to come from within because we have a broke owner and we're too cheap and I'm completely incapable of making a trade to save my life" is beyond me.

Have you not read anything that Bob McKenzie siad? Read that and you'll know why

 

[SelleckStache]

if you guys honestly think making a lateral move for some of our depth is going to turn this team around, you're fooling yourself.
No trade will fix weak plays like Karlsson on Heatley the other night.
No trade will fix our breakout
No trade will fix 4 lines of forechecking ineptitude.

Since we trust our scouting so much, blowing it all up this year makes no sense either.

So, Murray is right in my book this time. Change must come from within.

 

[Quo]

Have you not read anything that Bob McKenzie siad? Read that and you'll know why

He also said we're cracking under the pressure. We should find some way to not do that. That doesn't have to involve external assistance.

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

were 4 points out of playoff spot getting better game by game with 60 games left calm the **** down people.

The thing is...we aren't really "4 points out (...)" It's more like we're 6-8 points out.
Let me elaborate

Standings

Wildcard 1 +4 points ahead
Wildcard 2 +4 points ahead
Us 4 points behind

If we win our next two games and the two Wild Card spots lose their games in regulation, we draw even with them at which point it goes to games won in regulation or overtime, goal differential and all those fun tiebreakers. The problem is that those teams are probably going to win games themselves, it's inevitable. So the Senators actually need to win MORE than four points worth of games to get comfortable. They need four points AND another two to four points to put a cushion between ourselves and the trailing teams. The Senators cannot afford to keep losing. There may be 60 games or so left, but if the team goes W-W-L-L-OTL-W-W-W-L-L-L they'll basically be skating in quicksand.

Also:
Nicolas St-Pierre @nic_st_pierre (from TVA Sports)
Bryan Murray n'as pas l'intention de bouger pour l'instant, il me dit, la solution se trouve ici. Allez vous rappeler quelqu'un? Non...

Bryan Murray isn't going to make a move, solution must be internal. Won't be calling someone up either.

James Gordon‏@SensReporter
Bryan Murray told @nic_st_pierre he isn't inclined to make a move and the solution can be found within.

 

[Berserker*]

This is the exact tweet:
Bryan Murray told @nic_st_pierre he isn't inclined to make a move and the solution can be found within. @Capital_Gains65 Translation?

I guess this season is just going to be a write off for us. Too bad we traded our 1st round pick.

Well on the positive side, we will likely get a look at nearly half the AHL roster in the NHL as Murray calls up and sends down players trying to find out who improves the team.

There is also the possibility that we can substantially improve the team by bringing up the right players and shipping out the ones that aren't performing well.

 

[Johnny Hanson]

Some of you wack jobs make me lol

Entertainment at its finest

 

[HockeySens]

if you guys honestly think making a lateral move for some of our depth is going to turn this team around, you're fooling yourself.
No trade will fix weak plays like Karlsson on Heatley the other night.
No trade will fix our breakout
No trade will fix 4 lines of forechecking ineptitude.

Since we trust our scouting so much, blowing it all up this year makes no sense either.

So, Murray is right in my book this time. Change must come from within.

Actually a good PMD does help the breakout

 

[OgieO]

This roster should be playing much better. If they had been playing to par, we'd be several points ahead of where we are at the moment.

Plus, this sounds a lot like negotiating in the press to get the prices down (or attempt to get the prices down anyway).

 

[SelleckStache]

Well on the positive side, we will likely get a look at nearly half the AHL roster in the NHL as Murray calls up and sends down players trying to find out who improves the team.

There is also the possibility that we can substantially improve the team by bringing up the right players and shipping out the ones that aren't performing well.

No callups, that would cost money.

 

[Berserker*]

No callups, that would cost money.

Did Murray say no call ups?

 

[SelleckStache]

Did Murray say no call ups?

Yes he did:

Nicolas St-Pierre @nic_st_pierre (from TVA Sports)
Bryan Murray n'as pas l'intention de bouger pour l'instant, il me dit, la solution se trouve ici. Allez vous rappeler quelqu'un? Non...

 

[Benjamin]

Feels so pointless to be a Sens fan.

 

[Berserker*]

Yes he did:

Nicolas St-Pierre @nic_st_pierre (from TVA Sports)
Bryan Murray n'as pas l'intention de bouger pour l'instant, il me dit, la solution se trouve ici. Allez vous rappeler quelqu'un? Non...

WTF, this team needs to be prepping for another roster turnover. We have too many good prospects on the ay up and we need to start creating opportunities for them to play through this season.

Oh well, if that is the case, then we aren't doing **** this season. We will be lucky if this ****** roster even makes the playoffs.

 

[Hale The Villain]

No call ups?

Okay I'm starting to consider hopping aboard the **** Eugene Melnyk train.

 

[Ouroboros]

We're at the roster limit and over budget. Hard to accommodate call-ups in that situation.

 

[HockeySens]

Only in Ottawa where bringing up players from the farm team causes an over budget