Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals/Free Agents 2018-2019

[solidprospect]

Seabrooke has a full NMC until 2021-2022.

 

[solidprospect]

If we traded anyone else off the roster this year would we need equal salary coming back?

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

If we traded anyone else off the roster this year would we need equal salary coming back?

No. Why? The cap floor is around 59M. We just have to keep our cap number above that. We're currently around 70. If we move Stone and Duchene midseason, we could do it without taking any salary back.

 

[BonkTastic]

I'l gladly keep Ryan if the alternative is taking on Seabrook's debilitating contract.

 

[solidprospect]

No. Why? The cap floor is around 59M. We just have to keep our cap number above that. We're currently around 70. If we move Stone and Duchene midseason, we could do it without taking any salary back.

Take away Gaborik and macarthur we're at roughly $60.8M cap hit and under 60M in spending or is that not correct.

 

[DueDiligence]

connor McDavid is head nd shoulders ahead of everyone not named Crosby. so if youre not as good as those two youre not an elite forward?

That is correct. Look up the definition of "elite" and then you will understand.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Take away Gaborik and macarthur we're at roughly $60.8M cap hit and under 60M in spending or is that not correct.

Why are you taking away MacArthur and Gaborik's cap hits though? Where are they going?

 

[Que]

Trade Chabot with Ryan for some more character. We’re gunna kill Tomas’ development turning him #1D too early. He should be a sheltered #3 with a good veteran shutdown partner.

 

[SensFactor]

Can we not sign Bieksa, Or Davidson? Or gorges on D? Bieksa would be a strong leader

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Can we not sign Bieksa, Or Davidson? Or gorges on D? Bieksa would be a strong leader

They're basically in the same boat as Oduya. Their legs aren't there anymore. They can't handle the pace of the NHL at this point in their careers.

 

[Crosside]

I just see Oscar Dansk is on weiver. He could be a good pick

 

[stempniaksen]

I just see Oscar Dansk is on weiver. He could be a good pick

No room, imo. I'd love to have Dansk over Condon though.

 

[Crosside]

No room, imo. I'd love to have Dansk over Condon though.

Yeah me too

 

[BonkTastic]

No room, imo.

Yeah, there's no way this team is going to carry 3 goalies all season, and it's highly doubtful that we can trade either Andy or Condon right now.

I'd love to claim him, though.

 

[Micklebot]

Yeah, there's no way this team is going to carry 3 goalies all season, and it's highly doubtful that we can trade either Andy or Condon right now.

I'd love to claim him, though.

Claim him and see if he's clearly ahead of one of Condon or Anderson, then waive one of the three. If it's Dansk, he gets reclaimed, if it's one of the others, I guess we have an issue in Belleville.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Claim him and see if he's clearly ahead of one of Condon or Anderson, then waive one of the three. If it's Dansk, he gets reclaimed, if it's one of the others, I guess we have an issue in Belleville.

We have experience carrying too many goalies in Belleville anyways.

 

[BonkTastic]

Claim him and see if he's clearly ahead of one of Condon or Anderson, then waive one of the three. If it's Dansk, he gets reclaimed, if it's one of the others, I guess we have an issue in Belleville.

Oh, I agree that it's a good idea.

I just don't think this organization is willing to pay 3 goalies an NHL salary.

 

[Beville]

What do we reckon we’d get for Stone or a Duchene when we inevitably trade them at the deadline?

I’m calling B Prospect and a 4th.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

What do we reckon we’d get for Stone or a Duchene when we inevitably trade them at the deadline?

I’m calling B Prospect and a 4th.

1st+a good prospect.

I get everyone is soured by the Karlsson trade but Duchene & Stone will probably be the two best players available at the deadline. There will be strong demand for them.

 

[Sens Vader]

Perry Backes Ladd Lucic Seabrook

Any other bad contracts Ryan could be dealt for?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

1st+a good prospect.

I get everyone is soured by the Karlsson trade but Duchene & Stone will probably be the two best players available at the deadline. There will be strong demand for them.

I agree with this. They will likely be the two best players available at the deadline by a wide margin, so as bad as we did on the Karlsson trade, there will be a market for these two. Have any players of their calibre been moved in the last couple years at the deadline?

Dzingel fetches less, but if he has another solid season, he could fetch a 1st plus a throw in.

We could end up with 3 first rounders plus 2 or 3 decent prospects for 61,95 & 18 plus still have a few other guys we can probably move as well like Pyatt, Paajarvi, Tierney, Smith, DeMelo, etc.

 

[Beville]

1st+a good prospect.

I get everyone is soured by the Karlsson trade but Duchene & Stone will probably be the two best players available at the deadline. There will be strong demand for them.

I dunno, these are likely players who will need to get paid. I’m expecting SJ quality return e.g. cheap nobodies.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I dunno, these are likely players who will need to get paid. I’m expecting SJ quality return e.g. cheap nobodies.

They will be by far the best rentals available and i think a good gm could still get significant value as rentals. With Dorion making the decision though, likely not a great return.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

What do we reckon we’d get for Stone or a Duchene when we inevitably trade them at the deadline?

I’m calling B Prospect and a 4th.

Depends on if they are willing to sign with a team acquiring them, or are rentals.

As rentals, I'd expect a 1st, a pretty good but not great prospect, and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, maybe with some conditions that the pick can increase based on re-signing the player or team success.

Basically, the Brassard return is what I'd expect.

I'm not that bullish on selling players right now. Vegas didn't pay all that much for an extended Pacioretty, and STL acquired O'Reilly for a very good prospect, a probably late 1st, a 2021 2nd, and some middle 6 veterans. It'd be like if we gave up Brown or White, Pittsburgh's pick, a 2021 2nd, and Zack Smith for O'Reilly. Would we be all that satisfied getting that value for a signed 26 year old Mark Stone?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Depends on if they are willing to sign with a team acquiring them, or are rentals.

As rentals, I'd expect a 1st, a pretty good but not great prospect, and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, maybe with some conditions that the pick can increase based on re-signing the player or team success.

Basically, the Brassard return is what I'd expect.

I'm not that bullish on selling players right now. Vegas didn't pay all that much for an extended Pacioretty, and STL acquired O'Reilly for a very good prospect, a probably late 1st, a 2021 2nd, and some middle 6 veterans. It'd be like if we gave up Brown or White, Pittsburgh's pick, a 2021 2nd, and Zack Smith for O'Reilly. Would we be all that satisfied getting that value for a signed 26 year old Mark Stone?

If they're walking anyways, i say we should still deal any of them.

As much as it hurts to lose Karlsson, i would rather have what we got than have let him walk to free agency. Somethhing is better than nothing and if they arent signed here by the deadline, there's no reason to think they will by July 1st.