Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals/Free Agents 2018-2019

[Agent Zuuuub]

Stone is like a high tier star and just below superstar level.

Superstars are guys like Matthews and Eichel and Kane. Stone is easily below those guys.

 

[Senscore]

Stone is between Kanes.

 

[Sensung]

How exactly is he overrated? The guy can do everything on the ice, mostly better than everyone else on the team.

Such a strange stance to take to constantly remind people that Stone isn't as good as we think he is lol.

People are calling him a superstar. He's not.

Happy we have him. Clear star. Overrated by Sens fans.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Overrated by Sens fans, underrated by the league.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

People are calling him a superstar. He's not.

Happy we have him. Clear star. Overrated by Sens fans.

You're just arguing semantics at this point though. There's no concrete definition of star or superstar.

 

[Sensung]

Overrated by Sens fans, underrated by the league.

This I wholeheartedly agree with.

Really happy he's a Sen. Hope they find a way to keep him. Just don't see it happening.

 

[Sensung]

You're just arguing semantics at this point though. There's no concrete definition of star or superstar.

Not really.

My point, when this whole thing started, was that teams should prioritize Superstar over Star and if you need to overpay to keep a player it should be reserved for your most important, most talented player.

 

[R2010]

Open question. Has anyone seen a list of the best waiver eligible players this year. One of the best things we could do at this point is claim a couple players who came close to making other teams and letting the kids have more time in the AHL/Junior. If they do okay then you can always flip them later.

 

[senswon]

Open question. Has anyone seen a list of the best waiver eligible players this year. One of the best things we could do at this point is claim a couple players who came close to making other teams and letting the kids have more time in the AHL/Junior. If they do okay then you can always flip them later.

Great idea but they seem to want a ton of kids in the lineup. Even if it's 5 that's alot

 

[R2010]

Great idea but they seem to want a ton of kids in the lineup. Even if it's 5 that's alot

Oh for sure. I'm also just thinking that every year someone slips through who shouldn't and it would be great if we used our waiver priority to grab one of them.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Open question. Has anyone seen a list of the best waiver eligible players this year. One of the best things we could do at this point is claim a couple players who came close to making other teams and letting the kids have more time in the AHL/Junior. If they do okay then you can always flip them later.

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/who-do-you-see-being-waived-from-your-team.2523475/

 

[Ouroboros]

It's hard to go off of threads like that because some fans have unreasonable expectations of how an NHL team will operate. That said, if they hit the waiver wire I'd take a look at Martin Frk, Josh Leivo, Nikolay Goldobin [surely he won't be waived?], and maybe Nathan Beaulieu.

Insulating our prospects and creating the best possible environment in Belleville should be management's priority this season. The NHL club is going to lose a lot of games, and there isn't really anything that can be done about it at this point. Let's not trash our chances before the rebuild even really begins.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

There are some interesting waiver eligible prospects around the league. If they get waived, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sens considered putting in a claim. Some of the players that could potentially get waived are: Morgan Klimchuk, Kerby Rychel, Stefan Matteau, Scott Kosmachuk, Remi Elie, JC Lipon and Michael McCarron.

 

[Ouroboros]

Actually - scrap the waivers idea. If Tkachuk makes the team [looking likely] we're at 49 contracts, so we don't even really have any room to go that route.

EDIT: I miscounted. It's actually 48 contracts if Tkachuk makes the team. Still pretty tight though.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Actually - scrap the waivers idea. If Tkachuk makes the team [looking likely] we're at 49 contracts, so we don't even really have any room to go that route.

EDIT: I miscounted. It's actually 48 contracts if Tkachuk makes the team. Still pretty tight though.

I wouldn't be too worried about that situation given how many ufas and rfas we have at the end of the year, many of which can be moved at the deadline and even more should be let go. If we're trading guys like Duchene for prospects the players likely won't count towards the limit due to their age.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Mark Stone is not a superstar. Not even close.

didn't he outproduce auston Matthews laast year.. if you mean exposure then youre right hes not a superstar in that sense.. but the guy is absolutely elite.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

There are some interesting waiver eligible prospects around the league. If they get waived, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sens considered putting in a claim. Some of the players that could potentially get waived are: Morgan Klimchuk, Kerby Rychel, Stefan Matteau, Scott Kosmachuk, Remi Elie, JC Lipon and Michael McCarron.

I don't mind klimchuk from what ive seen... the others..meh. ]actually Matteau is ok

 

[BloodRedArmy]

There are some interesting waiver eligible prospects around the league. If they get waived, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sens considered putting in a claim. Some of the players that could potentially get waived are: Morgan Klimchuk, Kerby Rychel, Stefan Matteau, Scott Kosmachuk, Remi Elie, JC Lipon and Michael McCarron.

Weren't they saying Sparks needs to clear waivers on last nights broadcast? VERY interesting.

 

[HSF]

Petan or Leivo could hit waivers would be interesting to look at

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Petan or Leivo could hit waivers would be interesting to look at

Honestly this is what we should be doing, instead or rushing junior players straight to the NHL (Batherson, Formenton Tkachuk etc), we pick up some stop gap players via waivers. Not only will it give us time to properly develop those guys, we might find a diamond in the rough.

 

[R2010]

Honestly this is what we should be doing, instead or rushing junior players straight to the NHL (Batherson, Formenton Tkachuk etc), we pick up some stop gap players via waivers. Not only will it give us time to properly develop those guys, we might find a diamond in the rough.

Absolutely. If they produce well we can grab a draft pick for them if they're not part of the long-term plans. We let Jordan Weal and Rychel get through in the last years and really they could have been useful bottom half of the lineup players. I can't see someone with as much potential as Frk making his way to waivers.

 

[DueDiligence]

You're just arguing semantics at this point though. There's no concrete definition of star or superstar.

Superstars should be the top 5 percent of any league. Any greater percentage goes beyond what the definition of a superstar is.
So in the NHL that would mean : 23 active players per team x 31 teams = 713 x .05 = 36 players. Based on most ratings Stone falls below that number so in theory he is only a star!

 

[DueDiligence]

didn't he outproduce auston Matthews laast year.. if you mean exposure then youre right hes not a superstar in that sense.. but the guy is absolutely elite.

He is not elite. Connor McDavid is elite. Stone is very good.

 

[swiftwin]

Honestly this is what we should be doing, instead or rushing junior players straight to the NHL (Batherson, Formenton Tkachuk etc), we pick up some stop gap players via waivers. Not only will it give us time to properly develop those guys, we might find a diamond in the rough.

I agree that those three should be sent down. But I also don't think we need to pick anybody up. We're already way overloaded. I think White and Chlapik are absolutely NHL ready. Even with Pageau injured, that still leaves us with 13 forwards.

 

[JonnyMacSen]

If Duchene is getting traded my target would be the Islanders, they need another center after losing JT. Would love to get Dobson from them, or to a lesser extent there 2019 1st as it shouldn't be to late.

Probably totally unrealistic but do you think the Habs would give up there first for a signed Duchene?