Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals/Free Agents 2018-2019

[Do Make Say Think]

They want to "compete for the cup every year" which everybody knows is impossible. Re-tools can be envigorating for a fan base in order to build hooe for the future and transition from a previous core, there's nothing wrong with that.

They don't want a good team, they just want people to pay for a crap product.

 

[SensFanInBoston]

If they are going to blow it up, even though I would hate it sooo much, I think trading Stone to Dallas for their potential stud d-man in Heiskanen makes sense. Build from the back-end out. If he and Chabot live up to expectations then that would be solid in the future. Plus it gives ownership much lower team cost and a managed asset for the next 5 years. Only way I see this happening is if Stone would commit to Stars though.

 

[50 in 07]

If they are going to blow it up, even though I would hate it sooo much, I think trading Stone to Dallas for their potential stud d-man in Heiskanen makes sense. Build from the back-end out. If he and Chabot live up to expectations then that would be solid in the future. Plus it gives ownership much lower team cost and a managed asset for the next 5 years. Only way I see this happening is if Stone would commit to Stars though.

If Heiskanen wasn't on the table for Karlsson then he isn't on the table for Stone, regardless if Stone agrees to extend beforehand or not

 

[Clayonator]

I'm for it.

But after seeing the return we got ("6 Assets") for the best player we've ever seen, I am scared ****less.

Me too. I just want to rip the bandaid off and get it over with.

 

[Clayonator]

I can see one of Stone/Duchene heading to Calgary at some point for Sam Bennett and a 1st. Undecided as to whether or not I find that good value given all that’s happened, I just find that a realistic scenerio.

EDIT: Rasmus Andersson and a conditional 2nd/3rd is more realistic knowing these jokers.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Other GM’s know Dorion is a weak bumbling fool handicapped by ownership, they will be out for blood when it comes to Stone and Duchene.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Jake Dotchin was put on unconditional waivers. He might not be a bad pickup for us, still pretty young.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Jake Dotchin was put on unconditional waivers. He might not be a bad pickup for us, still pretty young.

Probably better than Demelo

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Virtually nothing for or any of our players... Mid level prospects...maybe a mid range pick.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Other GM’s know Dorion is a weak bumbling fool handicapped by ownership, they will be out for blood when it comes to Stone and Duchene.

One thing that might work to our benefit is that Duchene and Stone will probably be the two best players available at the deadline, so there will be loads of competition for them.

 

[armani]

Virtually nothing for or any of our players... Mid level prospects...maybe a mid range pick.

By Re-build Melnyk truly means Liquidation. And Dorion sucks in life, can't even get liquidation right.

 

[BankStreetParade]

I just don't know that the NHL is a league anymore where teams trade top draft picks and top prospects for star players. As crazy as that sounds, the last bunch of "mega"-trades in the NHL have not really included top prospects.

Johansen for Jones, Seguin+ for Eriksson+, Hamilton+ for Lindholm and Hanifin+, Galchenyuk for Domi, and the list goes on. When TBL got McDonagh and Miller they gave up Libor Hajek and spare parts and were already on their way to a guaranteed playoff spot with no concerns of a high first round draft pick.

 

[West Coast Eagles]

One thing that might work to our benefit is that Duchene and Stone will probably be the two best players available at the deadline, so there will be loads of competition for them.

Karlsson is a top 5 player in the league and we got sweet fa. I don't expect us to get much for either of those guys based on our track record. Zero confidence in ownership and management.

 

[BondraTime]

I just don't know that the NHL is a league anymore where teams trade top draft picks and top prospects for star players. As crazy as that sounds, the last bunch of "mega"-trades in the NHL have not really included top prospects.

Johansen for Jones, Seguin+ for Eriksson+, Hamilton+ for Lindholm and Hanifin+, Galchenyuk for Domi, and the list goes on. When TBL got McDonagh and Miller they gave up Libor Hajek and spare parts and were already on their way to a guaranteed playoff spot with no concerns of a high first round draft pick.

Howden was the main prospect the Lightning gave up, not Hajek.

We gave up a better prospect for Burrows than we received for Karlsson. Let that sink in.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Howden was the main prospect the Lightning gave up, not Hajek.

We gave up a better prospect for Burrows than we received for Karlsson. Let that sink in.

I don't know that that is fair. Norris was 19th overall and reports on him are generally positive.

 

[JungleBeat]

Howden was the main prospect the Lightning gave up, not Hajek.

We gave up a better prospect for Burrows than we received for Karlsson. Let that sink in.

But he’s Brady’s best friend and is a great competitor.

 

[BondraTime]

I don't know that that is fair. Norris was 19th overall and reports on him are generally positive.

And Dahlen was 42nd and has exceeded expectations every single year.

Norris definitely didn't exceed expectations last year, he had an average year, at best.

He has draft position on him, that's about it. Norris can still take a big step this year, here's hoping he does.

I'd take Bowers over Norris as well, even though Norris went higher.

 

[bacon25]

Me too. I just want to rip the bandaid off and get it over with.

Agreed, if the plan is to unload Stone and Duchene, they may as well do it now. The only problem is that they would need to find a way to reach the cap floor. Good thing the Sens still have Anderson and Ryan.

 

[Clayonator]

Agreed, if the plan is to unload Stone and Duchene, they may as well do it now. The only problem is that they would need to find a way to reach the cap floor. Good thing the Sens still have Anderson and Ryan.

I’d send Stone to Vegas for Theodore and Clarkson’s contract. Part of what we should have gotten for Karlsson anyway.

 

[Sensung]

And Dahlen was 42nd and has exceeded expectations every single year.

Norris definitely didn't exceed expectations last year, he had an average year, at best.

He has draft position on him, that's about it. Norris can still take a big step this year, here's hoping he does.

I'd take Bowers over Norris as well, even though Norris went higher.

I wonder what Melnyk's cap was for returning $.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Agreed, if the plan is to unload Stone and Duchene, they may as well do it now. The only problem is that they would need to find a way to reach the cap floor. Good thing the Sens still have Anderson and Ryan.

Funnily enough, we could still hit the cap floor with Duchene and Stone traded even if no money comes back. This is because despite Gaborik and Mac's contracts being insured, their full cap hit stays on the books.

Just by some rough calculations, we'd be at about 59M after trading both away. We'd be spending much less than that in real money though.

 

[Daffy]

I hope we trade Duchene and Stone now. We should be able to get a 1st + for both. If we wait until the deadline, we know that the first we get back will be mid to late. If we do it now there is a chance that team falters, misses the playoffs and we get a chance at the lottery.

 

[The don godfather]

I like norris balcers 1st round pick plus 2 round pick part of the trade the other part of Tierney demelo not too shabby. I don't understand why all this depression.

 

[OUT HOUSE]

We need some first rounders for this year and some D prospects.

 

[Clayonator]

I hope we trade Duchene and Stone now. We should be able to get a 1st + for both. If we wait until the deadline, we know that the first we get back will be mid to late. If we do it now there is a chance that team falters, misses the playoffs and we get a chance at the lottery.

We need our own pick for that