Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals 2019-20 Part II

[bert]

Technically he met Stone before he made the NHL, if you wanna get technical.

I'm not trying to discount the impact that Matt and Keith (among others) have had on Brady, but I think it's also important to have veteran voices in the locker room who can help guide him (among others). It doesn't need to be an either/or scenario, but having someone going through the same grind, on the same team, in the same city who can be a veteran leader can only help BT. If Pageau can have the same impact on BT moving forward as Stone had during that 2/3rds of last season then it's a win for everyone.

100 percent agree.

 

[Qward]

I got a Score notification that he was being placed on waivers. Maybe it was incorrect or I misread.

If true, it might be the prelude to a trade. Ladd has a NTC, but he probably waives to come here I'd the alternative is spending 3.5 years in the AHL.

So more information came out. He was sent down for the conditioning, the team did not feel he was NHL ready yet so they had to waive him in order to keep him in the AHL.

 

[stempniaksen]

So with Cory Schneider on waivers today is there some kind of money move that makes sense moving forward?

Obviously some kind of Schneider/Ryan swap could make varying degrees of sense for both sides, but I was hoping to hear other options beyond the obvious elephant in the room.

EDIT: The more I look into the more I realize it has to be Ryan, Anisimov + Boekder + Anderson just doesn't move enough money out of Ottawa for it to work.

 

[TheNewEra]

So with Cory Schneider on waivers today is there some kind of money move that makes sense moving forward?

Obviously some kind of Schneider/Ryan swap could make varying degrees of sense for both sides, but I was hoping to hear other options beyond the obvious elephant in the room.

EDIT: The more I look into the more I realize it has to be Ryan, Anisimov + Boekder + Anderson just doesn't move enough money out of Ottawa for it to work.

well Ryan makes 7.25 million per year in his last 2 years
Schneider makes 6 million per year in his last 2 years

plus Schneider will help team tank

if we could find a deal for Anderson it would be worth it imo

 

[GCK]

Ryan + Anderson 50% retained for Schneider.

9.6M out and 6M in this year. Jersey has the space.

 

[TheNewEra]

Ryan + Anderson 50% retained for Schneider.

9.6M out and 6M in this year. Jersey has the space.

jersey has Blackwood and Domingue I don't think they need Anderson at all

 

[GCK]

jersey has Blackwood and Domingue I don't think they need Anderson at all

If they continue to struggle Sheri will make a move. He is aggressive.

 

[TheNewEra]

If they continue to struggle Sheri will make a move. He is aggressive.

oh for sure but I don't think the solve would be getting Anderson or Ryan

thats a move to make in the most polite way of moving shit around, where we move our overpaid winger for their overpaid goalie. They have no need or reason to do us a favor and take Anderson in said deal

 

[Hale The Villain]

Nilsson + Ryan for Schneider + prospect/pick

Ultimate tank move. Roll with Andy and Schneider all year to 31st.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

With Drouin out long term, I wonder if we could interest Montreal in one gently used Chris Tierney.

Something like Norlinder + 4th/5th for Tierney

 

[Hale The Villain]

Feel like we missed the boat on trading Tierney. Should have sold high on him in the offseason.

Dude has been completely invisible this year. Be lucky to get a 2nd/3rd at this point.

 

[GCK]

oh for sure but I don't think the solve would be getting Anderson or Ryan

thats a move to make in the most polite way of moving **** around, where we move our overpaid winger for their overpaid goalie. They have no need or reason to do us a favor and take Anderson in said deal

The is a large contingent who believe Anderson would be a nice upgrade in NJ. I don’t believe in him myself so I wouldn’t do this if I was Jersey.

 

[GCK]

Nilsson + Ryan for Schneider + prospect/pick

Ultimate tank move. Roll with Andy and Schneider all year to 31st.

I’d do it without prospect or pick. It would likely crush the spirit of the team but they can get over it.

 

[Boud]

Feel like we missed the boat on trading Tierney. Should have sold high on him in the offseason.

Dude has been completely invisible this year. Be lucky to get a 2nd/3rd at this point.

20 games doesn't really change much, a team looking for a good 3rd line C will give a 2nd. Tierney is still young and is a RFA, he can contribute offensively on the bottom 6. He's not a perfect player, he's slow and he has an average shot, but he's patient with the puck and can make passes. A team will take him for sure.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

20 games doesn't really change much, a team looking for a good 3rd line C will give a 2nd. Tierney is still young and is a RFA, he can contribute offensively on the bottom 6. He's not a perfect player, he's slow and he has an average shot, but he's patient with the puck and can make passes. A team will take him for sure.

Its not 20 games. Tierney has been really bad since about game 22 last year. He has 39 points in his last 80 games with only 9 goals. Those offensive numbers coupled with him being a very bad defensive player means he doesn't bring much value to anyone, which is why he keeps getting pushed down the lineup on one of the worst teams in hockey.

He's a place holder. I wouldn't expect a 2nd for him. I think his value is somewhere around 3rd + 5th. Some team who is severely banged up might be able to find him a role.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Its not 20 games. Tierney has been really bad since about game 22 last year. He has 39 points in his last 80 games with only 9 goals. Those offensive numbers coupled with him being a very bad defensive player means he doesn't bring much value to anyone, which is why he keeps getting pushed down the lineup on one of the worst teams in hockey.

He's a place holder. I wouldn't expect a 2nd for him. I think his value is somewhere around 3rd + 5th. Some team who is severely banged up might be able to find him a role.

He's such a soft player at both ends, you really have to wonder if he's very appealing to a playoff team at all.

 

[Boud]

Its not 20 games. Tierney has been really bad since about game 22 last year. He has 39 points in his last 80 games with only 9 goals. Those offensive numbers coupled with him being a very bad defensive player means he doesn't bring much value to anyone, which is why he keeps getting pushed down the lineup on one of the worst teams in hockey.

He's a place holder. I wouldn't expect a 2nd for him. I think his value is somewhere around 3rd + 5th. Some team who is severely banged up might be able to find him a role.

I think your expectations of him are much higher than they should be, probably because of the trade, but that's pretty decent 3rd liner production (40pts in 82 games) and I wouldn't consider he's played particularly well during this time as you said. He's average defensively, but it's certainly not helping him that he's either playing with rookies like Veronneau and Chlapik, tied up to Ryan, or he's completely outmatched when matched up against top lines without the proper linemates. He's kind of a bad fit here because of it, Pageau already fills this role succesfully. Put a 3rd line of Paul, Tierney and Brown with proper top 6 and you are in good shape... He'll setup his linemates and help keep possesion in the Ozone, Paul and Brown are very good defensively.

Again not saying he's as good as Pageau, not even close to that, but he's a 3rd line player and that has some value. He PKs as well.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Nilsson + Ryan for Schneider + prospect/pick

Ultimate tank move. Roll with Andy and Schneider all year to 31st.

Be careful with that.

I get that folks desperately want to finish 31st. But, having a sieve in nets has a habit of screwing up your skaters, and forcing them to change their games. We do NOT want to do that with our young defense corps and young forwards. We don't need to screw up the kids. Find a different way to get to the bottom.

 

[aragorn]

Would DeMello return a mid to late 2nd rd pick at the trade deadline? And would you trade him for that? I would.

 

[Tuna99]

Its not 20 games. Tierney has been really bad since about game 22 last year. He has 39 points in his last 80 games with only 9 goals. Those offensive numbers coupled with him being a very bad defensive player means he doesn't bring much value to anyone, which is why he keeps getting pushed down the lineup on one of the worst teams in hockey.

He's a place holder. I wouldn't expect a 2nd for him. I think his value is somewhere around 3rd + 5th. Some team who is severely banged up might be able to find him a role.

Just seeing what Dzingel got who is a poor defensive player and soft, I think Tierney could get you a 2nd. Dizngel had the goals, but Tierney overall to my eyes looks like a much better player

 

[robsenz]

Just seeing what Dzingel got who is a poor defensive player and soft, I think Tierney could get you a 2nd. Dizngel had the goals, but Tierney overall to my eyes looks like a much better player

No question that right now Dzingel is better than Tierney, only advantage Tierney really has is being a Center which makes him more defensively responsible, which I guess there is value in that, but still less than Dzingel imo.

 

[Silencio]

Probably bs, but...Puljujarvi and Edmonton's 1st?

 

[GCK]

Probably bs, but...Puljujarvi and Edmonton's 1st?

Seems like a steep price if Edm really thinks Puljujarvi is worth the reported asking price.

 

[BonkTastic]

Probably bs

Understatement of the month right here.

Same guy who said this in September:

 

[HSF]

Probably bs, but...Puljujarvi and Edmonton's 1st?

i would be happy with a 1st for pageau

as a ufa 3rd liner that is the absolute best we should expect imo