Proposal: Trade Rumors/Proposals 2019-20 Part II

[God Says No]

I know that just as well as you, but someone who hasn't topped 18 points in 5 years as a pro (including the AHL level) kind of "is what he is" at some point. Can Gauthier be an effective 4th liner and PK'er at the NHL level? Of course, you can argue he already has. Can he take some jump and become more than "just a 4th line player"? History would indicate that, no he can't.

I just fail to see what Freddy Goat would bring to this team that we don't already have honestly.

You got the wrong player. Aragorn is talking about Julien Gauthier from CAR. I like Gauthier, but don't know if I'd pay the price of Balcers and Davidsson.

 

[stempniaksen]

You got the wrong player. Aragorn is talking about Julien Gauthier from CAR. I like Gauthier, but don't know if I'd pay the price of Balcers and Davidsson.

Well that changes my whole damn argument, lol.

Apologies @aragorn !

Still disagree with the premise, but it aint as crazy as calling Freddy Gauthier a future top-six guy

 

[Sensinitis]

You got the wrong player. Aragorn is talking about Julien Gauthier from CAR. I like Gauthier, but don't know if I'd pay the price of Balcers and Davidsson.

yeah that’s a big ripoff. One or both of them will end up better than Gauthier.

 

[Silencio]

I want Ottawa to trade for Kovalchuk and grab Spezza so we can at least have the #1 and #2 draft picks from 2001 if 2020 doesn't pan out the way we hope.

 

[stempniaksen]

I want Ottawa to trade for Kovalchuk and grab Spezza so we can at least have the #1 and #2 draft picks from 2001 if 2020 doesn't pan out the way we hope.

Pretty sure Dorion could find a way to have the top-two picks in 2012 as well if we wanna go down that road

 

[GCK]

Isn't that what people said about Nick Paul & Logan Brown?

Nobody ever said Logan Brown would be a slow 4th liner.

I wouldnt give anything for Nick Paul. He’s a nice story but easily replaced.

 

[BonkTastic]

... maybe, since most of his salary has already been paid, they're hoping he asks for his outright release if he thinks he can make a nice paycheque in Russia for the 2nd half of the season?

Hey, look at that, I called it.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Hey, look at that, I called it.

He will count against the cap though right?

 

[BonkTastic]

He will count against the cap though right?

Over-35 contract, so probably?

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

We're basically half Russian now, so let's sign him.

 

[TheNewEra]

Pageau is going to get us a 1st and a good prospect

 

[Hale The Villain]

Pageau is going to get us a 1st and a good prospect

If we trade him.

Could easily see Dorion buying high on Pageau by overpaying for him on a big long-term deal.

Should let some other team make that mistake and take the assets, but Dorion has never been a guy to manage his assets well.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

If we trade him.

Could easily see Dorion buying high on Pageau by overpaying for him on a big long-term deal.

Should let some other team make that mistake and take the assets, but Dorion has never been a guy to manage his assets well.

Yeah, he will probably pull a Zack Smith on this one if given the green light to spend.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

We didn't give Pageau term at high money the last time around.

I doubt we do it now.

I could see us offering a long term deal in the 4.25M range, which he will turn down. He will get 6 or more as a free agent.

 

[Bileur]

I'd rather have Pageau signed and a second acquired for Tierney than Tierney signed and a first acquired for Pageau. Particularly since I don't think the cash savings between Tierney and Pageau will be that significant. Pageau is a link to the community and to sens of the past and he's a Habs killer. He's more valuable here than elsewhere.

 

[bert]

If we trade him.

Could easily see Dorion buying high on Pageau by overpaying for him on a big long-term deal.

Should let some other team make that mistake and take the assets, but Dorion has never been a guy to manage his assets well.

No he is the anti asset manager he simply hates leverage. Almost as much as he hates side burns.

If the sens arent trading Pageau they need to trade Tierney. Someones gotta go to make room they have too many players and they should not be sending L. Brown or Chlapik down.

 

[Sensinitis]

If Pageau scores 20 goals by the deadline we're gonna get a ransom for him...

 

[Sweatred]

2020 1rd picks are going to carry a trade premium. Maybe we focus on an org's past pick/prospect pool or 2021/2022 picks. Lots of teams will be upside down in the standings a few years down the road.

 

[Qward]

Trade Pageau now before the bubble pops and he comes back down to earth.
Trade him to Pittsburgh for Poulin and a conditional pick.
The pick gets better if they go to the SCF or he re-signs there.

 

[BatherSeason]

Pageau is going to get us a 1st and a good prospect

Mark Stone didn't even return that much, pretty sure many people everywhere are overvaluing Pageau just a tad here.

 

[Qward]

Mark Stone didn't even return that much, pretty sure many people everywhere are overvaluing Pageau just a tad here.

Stone did return a first. Brannstrom is a first round pick.

 

[slamigo]

If any team offers a 2020 1st for Pageau, I think you got to pounce on that.

 

[BatherSeason]

Stone did return a first. Brannstrom is a first round pick.

This is not the same thing. You are basically saying that we sent a first round pick (Lazar) to Calgary for a guy named Kevin. Did we also sent a first round pick (Ceci) to the Leafs for Zaitsev?

We traded Mark Stone for a prospect and a 2nd round pick.

 

[Sensinitis]

This is not the same thing. You are basically saying that we sent a first round pick (Lazar) to Calgary, Did we also sent a first round pick (Ceci) to the Leafs for Zaitsev?

We traded Mark Stone for a prospect and a 2nd round pick.

Brannstrom was worth more than a 1st at the time, though. His pedigree made him more of a sure thing than a late first round pick. Pretty sure any GM would take Brannstrom over a late first rounder.

If any team offers a 2020 1st for Pageau, I think you got to pounce on that.

Agreed. Having three 1sts in this draft would be HUGE.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

This is not the same thing. You are basically saying that we sent a first round pick (Lazar) to Calgary, Did we also sent a first round pick (Ceci) to the Leafs for Zaitsev?

We traded Mark Stone for a prospect and a 2nd round pick.

In those scenarios a 1st is way more valuable than the player being traded. In Brannstrom's scenario, his value was much higher than a Vegas 1st