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Twenty f*ckin years
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I'd take our fourth line over most in the league. Both Moore and Boyle are decent third liners, and we have them on the fourth line.
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jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
Those are for sure our two biggest holes. But our D is quite solid.
I am not of the mindset that you NEED a #1 C to win the Cup. But I think in the playoffs, you need the D to chip in with points.
I was posting about 1994 to reference the "skin of your teeth" post. I just find it hard to believe that any fan can be negative about beating the defending SC Champions with our backup goalie in net, and dismiss the team 20 games before the playoffs begin. We may not even make the playoffs. We may be the #3 seed. Who the hell knows? But why watch if your realism borders on cynicism? Being a realist would be saying okay, this isn't the best team in the league right now, but they're playing extremely well, and if we stay hot going into the playoffs, and can add a scorer to our lineup, we can make a deep run and beat some good teams. I don't think that's being unreal.
I don't think anyone is saying this team will win the Cup for sure. I think the point is that if you're in the playoffs, with 6 solid defensemen, balanced lines, and a top 5 goalie, you have a shot to beat ANY team, be it by the skin of your teeth or by 5 goals.
well its not any teams motto or just the rangers motto, its every teams motto..
how else do you build a team? assemble a team of good players who at their peak can provide enough wins for a stanley cup.. the rangers have that right now.. will they peak at the right time? how will injuries play a roll? who is gonna be playing through a broken foot, or a separated shoulder?
i dont want to talk about 2011.. but they were close.. a few injuries away.. thats how it is every year.. a few real good teams cut short due to injuries or other circumstances.. its the ****ing playoffs..
NYR Viper
Registered User
Then why does everyone worship that 11-12 team? All they did was win games by the skin of their teeth. Oh and when it's the Blackhawks, any win is impressive. The Blackhawks don't get blown out unless they completely fail to show up. We had a rough 3rd it happens against far worse teams than the Blackhawks. The Blackhawks won the cup last year on a game that they won by the skin of their teeth.
they certainly got by the skin of their teeth those first two series against ottawa and washington. talk about nerve-wracking and then they lose to a devils team they were better than. im not really sure they would have beaten the kings anyway but that would of been cool to see new york vs los angeles and quick vs hank. i never even watched a replay of that henrique goal and i never intend to.
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
I'm just posting facts. I have yet to see anyone refute: Our lack of a top line center; Stepan being an awful playoff performer; points from the backend.
Seriously, if you guys can't handle anything that's not lollipops and daffodils, feel free to ignore it.
So buy out Richards, use that money for Callahan.
Don't get me wrong but I would rather have cally then Richards any day of the week.
A bad contract is just that a bad contract. If we have to eat one let it be Callahan that we keep
Don't get me wrong but I would rather have cally then Richards any day of the week.
A bad contract is just that a bad contract. If we have to eat one let it be Callahan that we keep
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
- Oct 8, 2010
- 80,067
- 17,708
Thirty One
Safe is safe.
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GregSirico
KakkoSZN
NYR Viper
Registered User
Just saying anything can happen as a justification to put off making the smart fiscal decision is like putting all of your retirement into 1 stock that you heard was going to be a good one. Does that justify making the smart decisions for long term health?
Ghost of jas
Unsatisfied
Agreed. Get MSL, and the skill level is higher. The overall depth is greater. The scoring on the 3rd line is better. Again, getting MSL takes some of the burden off Nash.
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
He'll get it from somewhere, maybe a tiny bit less.
- We're (probably) going to try to contend in the short-term.
- He's an established heart and soul player here.
- Our forward corps is small and offense-first - yes, even without St. Louis.
Who needs him more than we do?
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
No problem with that at all. Your boy Dorsett makes 1.63 and can't take face-offs, doesn't have size, and isn't as good defensively. Never scored 22 goals either. I'd sign him at 4-5 years at that cost. And Boyle really brings it in the playoffs.
I think it's incredibly INCREDIBLY presumptuous that your high and mighty opinion is the standard of realism. The you is more of a general you. "I have the objectively true opinion, everything else is not being realistic". It's so ****ing arrogant.
NYR Viper
Registered User
how old is stepan? because it took pavel datsyuk and henrik zetterberg about 4 playoffs to finally realize its a different game.. so they sucked big time for 4 years.. then became two of the best playoff players... is stephan unable to grow and improve? he is still a kid to a degree...
and he doesnt have to be a number 1.. because the rangers have an real good amount of depth up front..
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
Stepan has totally underperformed in the playoffs, and it is disconcerting. But he is still only 23. We definitely need the D to chip in with some points, but if I recall, didn't Stralman, McDonagh, Staal, Girardi chip in with some points in the playoffs recently? I believe it is our forwards disappearing that has been more of the problem.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
- Oct 8, 2010
- 80,067
- 17,708
This. I thought he was quite good last year, actually. A lot of gorgeous set ups he made were not converted.
And Chicago's defense is what? Not top 5?
We have a fine team. A fun team to watch. I enjoy this team. But they don't play in a vacuum. I have yet to hear a tangible reason that makes this team better than any of the others mentioned. Other than "renounce your fandom you pagan realist".
The suggestions that we should throw rational thought and longevity to the wind, trade "futures" and roster players to acquire a 38 year old for one season, are more ridiculous than someone suggesting that perhaps this isn't the season to make such a move. Perhaps if they had a #1 center, a real offensive defenseman, and at least one other winger besides Kreider and Pouliot in the top 9 that had anything resembling size and grit, then yea, maybe trading for St. Louis would make sense.
OR...
They could have PATIENCE, trade Callahan for some young pieces, buyout Richards' terrible contract, somehow figure out how to get another center that can pass as a real #1-#2, and then SIGN St. Louis as a free agent to a short-term contract, and then take a run, with a more complete roster...
HockeyBasedNYC
Feeling it
Can the conditions of a pick be changed if traded to another team? For instance, Buffalo trade Stewart+ 'and the Blues conditional 2016 3rd/1st to the Rangers for Callahan... And then the Rangers flip that pick to get MSL in another package...the terms of Miller resigning or the Blues making the WCF remain right?
NYR Viper
Registered User
My boy?
Now they're going to pay him based on his aberration of a 22 goal season?
Moore makes 1 million. Boyle will make 2.5. Worth it?
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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