Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXIV: C'est la St. Louis?
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Change is good.
I also am beginning to really like FLA's future. EDM... eh, as long as chucklehead keeps taking the popular pick and badly ignoring his defensive corps, they're pretty much doomed.
Of course it effects me, who else does it effect. Im just saying it.
Callahan surely has to come down from 7million 7 years if that is in fact with his asking for. but I've said it befre I give them both 6y 36 m deals.
Their loyalty seems to be each other, and isn't that what you want? Do you want the players on the team to be loyal to each other or to you the fan? I want the team I watch to be a team. And you don't get a closer knit group then when guys are willing to go to bat for them.
Pledge your loyalty to the jersey ok, but don't pledge it to ownership/management just bc it seems their interests suits your interest as a fan of the team.
The money being suggested is for callahan is absurd. I don't know if thats what he ends up signing for. So I have no idea if that is a number that is in conversation or has simply been put out there as the official top range.
I don't want management to throw elite level money at them to get a deal done. I want both of the players to be reasonable and I want management to be reasonable and deals to be made.
Cally and G could very well decide they are teaming up in Buffalo. I believe G's family is from toronto. Buffalo and Toronto are fairly close. Just watching the Bs and Sabres and Michaletti was talking about how the sabre owner wants to spend spend spend. Maybe G is willing to take a little less here if that means cally's staying but he's not taking less if he's not.
I don't know man. In the same way that Ive seen whats been coming for the last couple years, coming. If cally and G leave now I know whats coming going forward from that. The rangers aren't going to replace them and Staal gonna leave. And all of the sudden the Rangers have huge gaping holes.
Not if it costs what it would cost.
We can wait the year and sign him as a free agent and not lose the assets in the process.
NYR Viper
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I like St Louis, but it's not the last 5 years you're trading for. It's the next few and he is 38.
Again, not saying I dislike him but you have to be realistic about what your getting.
We aren't big enough now, let alone after trading two of our more physical players.
Not saying we shouldn't get MSL or SV, but to act like we'll be fine without any size entering the lineup is absurd. This team is too soft right now, we'll we WAY to soft if we replace G and Cally with MSL and SV.
LaffyTaffyNYR
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I would move futures to TB for St Louis.. move Girardi to the Ducks for Vatanen and Etem or Vatanen and Kerdiles, etc. something like that. move Callahan to another team for a roster player and prospect (the rumored asking price).. MSL would give us the top 6 guy we need, Vatanen would give us a 3rd RHD to go with Stralman and Klein, whatever roster player in the Callahan deal replaces whatever offense we lose with him, which is not much.. That not only helps us out now (adding MSL to pretty much the same team), it also helps us out in the future as well with prospects and picks.
If Girardi really did not accept the Rangers offer after we reportedly moved to his asking price.
The only problem is who is our #1 RHD? Stralman?
If Girardi really did not accept the Rangers offer after we reportedly moved to his asking price.
The only problem is who is our #1 RHD? Stralman?
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
I'd be surprised if the Ottawa first was in play at all, though any "ten percent of ten percent" chance of us getting a top five pick is fun to think about and theorycraft here. I can't think of a second suitor for Girardi that would throw in an offer anywhere near Vatanen + Ottawa pick.
St. Louis and Vatanen can still be in play at the same time. I don't see any significant market for Callahan and if we get St. Louis it's because things would have broken down in Tampa's end. Callahan and a second rounder/prospect detritus is not an opportunity cost worth crying about when you have a couple years of a PPG player. It all makes for a kinda smurfy team, but maybe it will give Nash more impetus to play the body or whatever. All in all, whatever happens, a very entertaining trade deadline.
St. Louis and Vatanen can still be in play at the same time. I don't see any significant market for Callahan and if we get St. Louis it's because things would have broken down in Tampa's end. Callahan and a second rounder/prospect detritus is not an opportunity cost worth crying about when you have a couple years of a PPG player. It all makes for a kinda smurfy team, but maybe it will give Nash more impetus to play the body or whatever. All in all, whatever happens, a very entertaining trade deadline.
You don't even realize how funny that comment is. I feel you. I have loved this team my entire life. It was always rangers hockey, above all other forms of entertainment, other then playing sports itself. I feel you
Two questions:
1) Who plays RD on the top pair, or do you shift McD over?
2) What "futures" are you trading for MSL?
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Change is good.
By the way, if you're the Rangers, do you really want Boomer spilling the beans on these things? Especially which young guys you're targeting from ANA?
True, but his next few years will be better than the monstrous contract Callahan wants.
What would it cost? Callahan, who will walk in the summer anyway, and a prospect/pick? I do it.
I seriously have to question your hockey knowledge.
St. Louis plays big boy hockey better than any team in the league. Their little guys are tough and they all block shots. Callahan looked like himself next to Backes.
Armstrong and Hitchcock were probably drooling at the Olympics.
Killem Dafoe
Hold my baby, man.
yup three way deal is how it would go down
and yup somebody gave Boomer vatanen's name. Probably to get feelings from ranger fans on how they would feel on the return. Something is up right now regarding G/callahan, and brooks is working that angle.
Would people familiar with brooks say he tends to write with pro-player pro-union slant. Its kinda seemed that way from the Callahan/Girardi/Lundqvist stories this year. Always promoting the top line. Seems like Callahan/Girardi and their agents are trying use this as a means push for Callahan to get a deal where he wants it. And if brooks is pro-union he got the story.
I think you'd have to go with
Staal-McD
Moore - Klein
Stralman - Vatanen
I don't really like that. We really don't win the cup, or even stand a chance by inserting Vatanen and MSL for Cally and Girardi.
Outside of Girardi being traded for a solid top 4, we really can't lose him and expect to compete. He's too vital.
NYR Viper
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Not arguing that. Bit if you have to move other assets besides Callahan, which I believe you will, then you have to think about it.
I doubt Yzerman wants a rental for his top scorer.
NYR Viper
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1) relax with the personal shots.
This goes for everyone. Relax or infractions will be handed out.
I wrote St Louis as in Martin, not the city.
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