Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXIV: C'est la St. Louis?
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Paulie Walnutz
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If they can make the following deals, where are the major holes?
Girardi for Vatanen + Rakell + 2nd 14
Callahan for Stewart + Vanelli + EDM 2nd 14
Vatanen and Stewart replace a good portion of what those players do now, other particular an be picked up by others on the team currently.
Girardi for Vatanen + Rakell + 2nd 14
Callahan for Stewart + Vanelli + EDM 2nd 14
Vatanen and Stewart replace a good portion of what those players do now, other particular an be picked up by others on the team currently.
Skjei really hit the gym this year, looking bigger, leaner, and playing with more assurance.
Is he physically mature enough to the point he signs after this season when Minny's Frozen 4 run ends or does he stay another year?
HatTrick Swayze
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I'd rather upgrade the team if we can.. not just get the same type of players if we move Callahan and Girarid.
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LaffyTaffyNYR
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now if we got Stewart for Callahan, moved some prospects for MSL and then traded Girardi for Vatanen.. that'd be a heck of a trading deadline.. dont see it happening though
I like Etem, as well. But, i know folks question his hockey sense.
Nick Kerdiles i loved in the draft, and was pleasently disappointed when we took Skjei. If we could wind up with both AND Vatanen, i'd be one happy camper, yet very disappointed to see Girardi go. I'm a big fan of Girardi's. He's just a real easy guy to root for. Family man, humble and hard working.
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You forgot where we get MSL
I don't think that's happening at the deadline. More likely in the offseason.
NYR Viper
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The Rangers are agreeing to Girardi's price and trading him?
For Sami Vatanen, who just got sent to the AHL?
hmmm... IDK.... a cynic might say the Rangers are using Boomer's newfound cred to make it appear they're in full wheel-deal mode, to maximize returns on Callahan;
that said, you never know unless you're in the room.
But for them to move their top pairing righty D and total warrior in Girardi, who wants pretty reasonable numbers (that they're agreeing to!!!), IDK man, something would have to be rotten in RangerLand.
Same time, good young assets are just that; in theory they could bump a Klein or Stralman up; but the logic of that kind of upheaval to the roster heading into the stretch? Hard to believe;
same time, you never know where trade talks can go; they could be working on something that, overall, turns out to be awesome.
For Sami Vatanen, who just got sent to the AHL?
hmmm... IDK.... a cynic might say the Rangers are using Boomer's newfound cred to make it appear they're in full wheel-deal mode, to maximize returns on Callahan;
that said, you never know unless you're in the room.
But for them to move their top pairing righty D and total warrior in Girardi, who wants pretty reasonable numbers (that they're agreeing to!!!), IDK man, something would have to be rotten in RangerLand.
Same time, good young assets are just that; in theory they could bump a Klein or Stralman up; but the logic of that kind of upheaval to the roster heading into the stretch? Hard to believe;
same time, you never know where trade talks can go; they could be working on something that, overall, turns out to be awesome.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
The major hole is that it doesn't give STL to the posters who want him.
I, on the other hand, like your general direction. Tweak on the edges - hopefully add some conditional upside - and call it a deadline.
People here want to complain about everything and anything and here it is the rangers built a culture of outworking every team and winning games and within 5 years every single one of them is gone.
Hank is hank, but he isn't a skater. He can't set the tone those guys do. Mac just gets it, he plays that way naturally. But those three and dubi, they knew what it was all about when it started building. It was about looking every single opponent right in the eye, and going toe for toe to them and out willing them to win battles, then goals, then games, series, and then divisions. They learnt it starts at the smallest level, the smallest battle, and that every situation is another one and you play to win every single battle. The belief those guys have deep down is what has allowed them all to grow into the players they did. It's want enabled Prust to become what he did, Boyle to become a valuable player, Dubi to play like a beast when he was locked in, Hags to turn himself into a puck possession/retrieval hog, Stepan to let his god given abilities shine when he does it. etc etc etc.
And it starts with those guys.
And within 5 years, crap less then 2 years, they are all gone?
I have a connection to this group. I had a connection to the 90s core. I watched here and there, probably more then that, but I had no connection to them in 00-05. I paid close attention to the rebuild process, and enjoyed watching jagr play and hanks emergence.
But in 07 I started working in brooklyn/manhattan and heading home via Penn. And it just started one night, I was about to head down the stairs into penn and somebody said 20 buck 20 bucks ranger tickets. And I was like ok, went in took a sit in the lower bowl and been doing it ever since. during that period I was working in the city, I went to a lot of games, I saw those guys grow up close man. And then I started doing something different for work, and I ended up going on the road a lot of seeing them play on the road, see them during the the holidays at home. I've been at some of the most intense playoff games this team has since 97'. And I've turned 30, at this point soon to be 31. My next move is gonna be down south to buy some land and farm it, my life is growing away from it, as well as being priced out of going to games. And if this group that I have such a close connection with is gone, I'll follow to a certain extent, so I can chat with my dad and see how the guys are doing.
But it'll be like what its like when you try getting back together with a girl you don't have much in common with anymore. Feels old, or you view it differently.
Ill always know what could of been and how quickly it was torn up.
HatTrick Swayze
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BrianNY79 @Brian79Ny 11m
Gonna take a little more to get Girardi then Sami Vatanen, no?
Kevin @TheNYRBlog 10m
I'd assume a first round pick would be thrown in there as well.
Boomer Esiason @7BOOMERESIASON 5m
stop assuming
Gonna take a little more to get Girardi then Sami Vatanen, no?
Kevin @TheNYRBlog 10m
I'd assume a first round pick would be thrown in there as well.
Boomer Esiason @7BOOMERESIASON 5m
stop assuming
I agree with the praise for Skjei. Love the kid's mind for the game. He is a very smart player. I like his physical gifts to go with it. Long reach, high-end skater. I don't care if his offensive game doesn't develop much, he's going to be solid in his own end and will contribute to the transition game.
LORDE
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Would think that the price would be lower in the summer... Meaning worse deal for Yzerman.
Miller Time NYR
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It sure is, but I dont understand the move if hypothetically Callahan is moved for MSL, to me that is a win NOW move, whereas replacing Girardi with Vatanen (and replacing his minutes with Stralman/Klein) seams to me like a long term move that wont help the team with a playoff push.
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