Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXIII: Getcha' pitchforks ready.

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Agreed.

....only acceptable when we're talking about a retired QB's rumor

You refuse to accept that he has a legitimate source that is higher up.

Nash trade. Del Zotto trade. Gaborik trade. NHL lock out.

That's all connecting the dots?

Those are all massive hockey stories and he tweeted all before they were even media possibilities.

That's why I trust his source.

Sure you have guys who have 9/9 accuracy and on the 10th lead they get it wrong... but it's undeniable the guy has a legit source feeding him this information.

Whether you choose to accept that or not is your prerogative.

 

[LORDE]

They don't always have to, but something this wild that isn't just Eklund like rumblings taking a shot in the dark without any basis in reality, you would think the team might want to come out and say, "No, that's not true, MSL and Steve Y have reconciled on this issue."

Just a thought.

I'm really just playing Devs advocate here but maybe they have more important things to do than lay to rest the hopes, dreams or fears of HF Board posters?

Just seems to me that the fact they're not openly denying it, doesn't say much to me towards it being true, or more plausible. YZerman and Sather and every other GM are more than likely up to their necks in trade discussions both internally and externally... The fact that they haven't taken time out of their Tuesday to issue a statement on a rumor isn't much of a surprise to me.

Just my .02 cents.

 

[NernieBichols]

Not hockey, but this one is my fave:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ors-of-jim-harbaugh-to-the-browns-via-twitter

Ive been telling my best friend for years everyone in the league is gonna grow to hate this guy. He has this aloofness and arrogance like he's the only person in the world and he will stop at nothing to get his way, like by whining to the refs like a baby all game long in front of the cameras.

hahaha he's like a cartoon character of a coach out there.

 

[RGY]

Here's a statement



http://tbo.com/sports/lightning/trade-rumors-link-bolts-st-louis-to-rangers-20140225/

Respectfully RB, that doesn't say ****. That's Stamkos' opinion. Where is Yzerman and MSL?

'The Gold heals wounds' statement is an opinion, and in fact, only shows that there is sour grapes between MSL and Yzerman.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Ive been telling my best friend for years everyone in the league is gonna grow to hate this guy. He has aloofness and arrogance like he's the only person in the world and he's stop at nothing to get his way. hahaha he's like a cartoon character of a coach out there.

NFC Championship, Super Bowl, NFC Championship

his team sure doesnt seem tired of him

 

[Nightshift]

Some folks don't even like having the discussion at the possibility of any trade that doesn't jive with their view of how the NYR should be operated. If it doesn't involve high end draft picks or prospects coming back, well then its just short sighted and foolish.

 

[NernieBichols]

http://snyrangersblog.com/znhl-play...n-dreger-on-ryan-callahan-and-marty-st-louis/



He's brought up because it's a far more realistic move than St. Louis. It keeps getting brought up by people paid for getting that information.

The Blues are going to move Stewart. The Rangers are going to move Callahan. The Blues want Callahan with Backes.

Connect the dots.

Its fun to play fantasy land with St. Louis, but it isn't realistic. The Rangers aren't and shouldn't sacrifice prospects and picks to get a year out of St. Louis.

seems like there has been a lot of talk about St. Louis wanting to come to NY that is not stopping Pixel. Do you notice it? fantasy land is long term rebuild when you just signed Lundqvist to the contract they did.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

seems like there has been a lot of talk about St. Louis wanting to come to NY that is not stopping Pixel. Do you notice it? fantasy land is long term rebuild when you just signed Lundqvist to the contract they did.

Not denying St. Louis could force his way to NY.

I doubt it happens in a 1 for 1 swap for Callahan. Thats fantasyland stuff

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Should also see what they said about Perron, or what some Rangers fans were saying about Lundqvist and Girardi earlier this year. Point being, trusting the fans on this board to get an accurate opinion of anything is almost a total waste of time.

The thing is, Stewart IS a streaky player, though.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I think you may be overrating Callahan in that regard:

Who is the standard as the most inconsistent player in history?

 

[NernieBichols]

Respectfully RB, that doesn't say ****. That's Stamkos' opinion. Where is Yzerman and MSL?

'The Gold heals wounds' statement is an opinion, and in fact, only shows that there is sour grapes between MSL and Yzerman.

Exactly, the PR people are using Stamkos as a calming tactic right now.

St. Louis can squash this with one sentence. But there is still silence.

haha now maybe in an hour, we'll have that statement, but we don't right now. We have silence

 

[Thirty One]

Who is the standard as the most inconsistent player in history?

Chris Stewart, of course.

Stewart is blue. Callahan is red.

 

[Jackpot]

In my mind, doesnt have to be Chris Stewart, but I think the realistic return will feature a centerpiece NHL player like him.

Was Stewart on the Olympic team? There's a reason Callahan was.... I would hope to get a little more than a Stewart (like) player in return... Not to many Callahan's out there.. Outside of point production he's every coaches dream 2nd /3rd line RW.... I'm sure Sather has an idea of where Callahan would likely sign a new contract, I'm also sure we'll end up with something outside of Stewart.. Well, almost..

 

[Thirty One]

Was Stewart on the Olympic team? There's a reason Callahan was.... I would hope to get a little more than a Stewart (like) player in return... Not to many Callahan's out there.. Outside of point production he's every coaches dream 2nd /3rd line RW.... I'm sure Sather has an idea of where Callahan would likely sign a new contract, I'm also sure we'll end up with something outside of Stewart.. Well, almost..

That's not a fair comparison. Callahan wouldn't have sniffed the Canadian Olympic team.

 

[NYR Viper]

Was Stewart on the Olympic team? There's a reason Callahan was.... I would hope to get a little more than a Stewart (like) player in return... Not to many Callahan's out there.. Outside of point production he's every coaches dream 2nd /3rd line RW.... I'm sure Sather has an idea of where Callahan would likely sign a new contract, I'm also sure we'll end up with something outside of Stewart.. Well, almost..

I believe it was posted a few pages back but a pundit stated Callahan will return a roster player + 1st. Stewart + 1st.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Was Stewart on the Olympic team? There's a reason Callahan was.... I would hope to get a little more than a Stewart (like) player in return... Not to many Callahan's out there.. Outside of point production he's every coaches dream 2nd /3rd line RW.... I'm sure Sather has an idea of where Callahan would likely sign a new contract, I'm also sure we'll end up with something outside of Stewart.. Well, almost..

Im sure "Do you know Ryan Callahan is an olympian and a coaches dream?!" will be the selling points that pull the wool over a GM's eyes; to the reality that he is a 2nd/3rd line RW that wants almost $50M....oh, AND will cost assets at the deadline.

 

[RangerBoy]

Not denying St. Louis could force his way to NY.

I doubt it happens in a 1 for 1 swap for Callahan. Thats fantasyland stuff

Stop making sense.

 

[Ail]

I think you may be overrating Callahan in that regard:

EDIT: To be clear: that's Callahan in the red, and Stewart the blue

Lol'd at the labels hahaha.

 

[Guyute]

i'd be happy with stewart + stl 2015 1st. stewart is the blues scapegoat. he only plays 14-15 minutes a night and still pots 20 goals a year. cally isn't that much more productive offensively. he will never be close to cally defensively, but we have other guys who can step in a PK adequately. stewart also adds size and grit.

we get a second shot at mcdavid, eichel, barzal, hanifin, konecny, etc. with the 2015 1st.

 

[OverTheCap]

Not denying St. Louis could force his way to NY.

I doubt it happens in a 1 for 1 swap for Callahan. Thats fantasyland stuff

Yeah, I mean a rental Iginla forced his way to Pitt last year and they still had to give up a 1st round pick and 2 prospects for him. GMs try to extract fair value in a trade even if their players have a NMC, they just don't have the luxury of a bidding war. They may not get the best package but they can still get a decent haul - I don't think a rental Callahan by itself fits the bill.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I believe it was posted a few pages back but a pundit stated Callahan will return a roster player + 1st. Stewart + 1st.

To be technical, that is the particular writer's opinion. But, I believe it holds true...dealing either of Callahan or Girardi should result in a return of a #1 pick and a quality prospect.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Yeah, I mean a rental Iginla forced his way to Pitt last year and they still had to give up a 1st round pick and 2 prospects for him. GMs try to extract fair value in a trade even if their players have a NMC, they just don't have the luxury of a bidding war. They may not get the best package but they can still get a decent haul - I don't think a rental Callahan by itself fits the bill.

Yzerman is not going to roll over to a player's demands because he threw a hissy fit about being initially left off an Olympic roster.

 

[beef 4 lunch]

I wish Callahan would just get traded already.

It may not be the smartest move going forward but MSL would have a huge impact on this team. HUGE.

I think this roster is super flawed as currently constructed. MSL would cover those flaws for a couple years, not cost too much, take some pressure off Nash, and most importantly score goals like no other Ranger.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

i'd be happy with stewart + stl 2015 1st. stewart is the blues scapegoat.

Sweet if the Rangers get a scapegoat back, it frees them up to trade Boyle.

 

[Trxjw]

The thing is, Stewart IS a streaky player, though.

So are most players who don't score a point-per-game. It'd be nice if we could count on 25 goal scorers to score once every 3 games, but it doesn't work that way. Players of all kinds tend to score in bunches. They ebb and flow.

What I do understand is the consistency on the ice outside of scoring. You'd like to see a guy like Stewart be physical every game, and work his ass off every game. However, that's just not realistic to expect out of 90% of the players in the league.

I think the issue here is people are acting like Stewart is an identity replacement for Callahan, and that's just not the case. He's a guy who can fill in for the scoring that will be missed, and for some of the physicality. The team will have to look elsewhere for leadership, and I think it's entirely reasonable that they can find that from within.