Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXIII: Getcha' pitchforks ready.

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Unpossible. Did they make an actual proposal?

I basically said what if Yzerman likes stewart and the 2nd. And that he gets to find out from 29 other teams what they would give up for Cally as a rental. And maybe there are prospects that he has had his eyes on, that he wasnt able to draft that he needs has the asset to obtain.

In terms of an actual proposal, I just said Blue/rangers/lightning with the lightning getting Stewart and 2nd
 
I think a trade for MSL is garbage. He's a hell of a player, but he's 39, and we arent winning anything this year.

He's 38 and we'll never win anything with that attitude.

He's the absolute best return we could wish for in a trade for Callahan, if you'd rather have a much younger and far less productive Chris Stewart that's your prerogative but all things equal I choose the old guy.
 
I think a trade for MSL is garbage. He's a hell of a player, but he's 39, and we arent winning anything this year.

Ok. I guess all underdogs should quit before they play the game too.

Boston College basketball had >1% of beating Syracuse according to ESPN analysts. Under 1%.

They did it.
 
I would not trade Kristo right now. I think we should hold on to him a little longer.

Seeing Kristo in traverse city. Kid had some crazy skills, seriously. He doesn't think the game as quickly as other top skilled players/prospects. But the kid has crazy offensive skills.
 
He's 38 and we'll never win anything with that attitude.

He's the absolute best return we could wish for in a trade for Callahan, if you'd rather have a much younger and far less productive Chris Stewart that's your prerogative but all things equal I choose the old guy.

Can you draw me an acornized MSL if we acquire him. I'll use it as my avatar.
 
I think a trade for MSL is garbage. He's a hell of a player, but he's 39, and we arent winning anything this year.

It depends on what we're adding to Callahan. I agree that we're (realistically) not winning anything this year. But we'd have MSL for 2 playoff runs, and could probably get at least another year if we chose to re-sign him. I could easily see him playing another 3-4 years at a high level.
 
Ok. I guess all underdogs should quit before they play the game too.

Boston College basketball had >1% of beating Syracuse according to ESPN analysts. Under 1%.

They did it.

Boston College basketball had <1% of beating Syracuse

Alligator eats the bigger number.

Also, I like how people like to round up MSL's age to 39 or even a flat 40. It's pretty amusing to me.
 
I basically said what if Yzerman likes stewart and the 2nd. And that he gets to find out from 29 other teams what they would give up for Cally as a rental. And maybe there are prospects that he has had his eyes on, that he wasnt able to draft that he needs has the asset to obtain.

In terms of an actual proposal, I just said Blue/rangers/lightning with the lightning getting Stewart and 2nd
Judges?

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I'm thinking it's going to be Haglien and Cally to TB if they're demanding more . Just a feeling, I haven't read anything indicating.

I would hate that deal.

Im sorry for Yzerman and tampa fans, be happy with scraps. As a ranger fan, I do not want to give up another roster player, only reason Callahan is bc he's leaving on his own if he doesn't make a deal.
 
Ok. I guess all underdogs should quit before they play the game too.

Boston College basketball had >1% of beating Syracuse according to ESPN analysts. Under 1%.

They did it.

So, to dredge up our argument from last week, I shouldn't take your previous stance that the Rangers are on par with the Bruins, Pens or the western powerhouses seriously. You are, in fact, an "anything can happen!" guy.

Thought so. ;)
 
Guess it all comes down to how many teams MSL is willing to go to and what he's willing to do if he's not moved by the deadline (retire ?) Just speculation on my part. If he did retire he's only got 1 year and the rest of this one left on his deal, not a lot of money in NHL terms.
 
Boston College basketball had <1% of beating Syracuse

Alligator eats the bigger number.

Also, I like how people like to round up MSL's age to 39 or even a flat 40. It's pretty amusing to me.

I write out the <>'s in terms of how I hear it sounding in my head.

Maybe I made a mistake (probably did). In any event, I understand the signs, I was trying to type out more quickly. I probably have been doing that for a while though. Oh well. No1 curr.
 
I think there is an aspect of this potential Martin St Louis trade that is being overlooked. On the surface, obtaining a player at 38 seems like a short-sighted acquisition. Like many, I agree that Callahan's value to the Rangers is much higher than it would be for many other teams. He is a likeable player who I appreciate as a fan. I think what's attractive about this deal with St Louis is that is a short term commitment for a 5.X Million. You are getting a top 6 (at worst) winger and you can allocate resources for other needs. You add some short term scoring depth. Cap space (even if it increases) is almost as valuable as a prospect.
 
So, to dredge up our argument from last week, I shouldn't take your previous stance that the Rangers are on par with the Bruins, Pens or the western powerhouses seriously. You are, in fact, an "anything can happen!" guy.

Thought so. ;)

Flyer's sneak into the 8th seed, beating the Rangers in a shoot out in the final game of the regular season.

40 y/o goalie.

Don't even bother having them move past the 1st rou..... oh wait they went to the SCF.

My apologies. I forgot sporting outcomes are always decided.
 
I think there is an aspect of this potential Martin St Louis trade that is being overlooked. On the surface, obtaining a player at 38 seems like a short-sighted acquisition. Like many, I agree that Callahan's value to the Rangers is much higher than it would be for many other teams. He is a likeable player who I appreciate as a fan. I think what's attractive about this deal with St Louis is that is a short term commitment for a 5.X Million. You are getting a top 6 (at worst) winger and you can allocate resources for other needs. You add some short term scoring depth. Cap space (even if it increases) is almost as valuable as a prospect.

It's not like you are getting a 38 year old player inked for 5Y.
 
Trading a pick (or anything of value) along with Callahan to Tampa for St Louis would be the absolute definition of Sather insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
 
Say G goes to ANA for Vatenen, DSP, and a 1st.

Cally goes to STL for Stewart, Jaskin, EDM 2nd.

Are people okay with trading Kristo, Hrivik, 1st, and 2nd for MSL since Stevie Y wants future?

I'm down to sweeten the pot since Stevie Y is as future focused as some of the posters on this board. I trade John Moore and replace him Conor Allen in a second if it meant MSL.
 
He's 38 and we'll never win anything with that attitude.

He's the absolute best return we could wish for in a trade for Callahan, if you'd rather have a much younger and far less productive Chris Stewart that's your prerogative but all things equal I choose the old guy.

He'll be 39 in June. My problem with St. Louis as the return isn't in terms of value. St. Louis is a great player. My concern is that he has 1 year after this left on his contract and he will be 40 years old. Everyone is assuming he will continue playing after that and will still be just as productive, but how likely is that?

I'm not interested in trading Callahan for a soon to be 39 year old player, no matter how good that player is. We traded a 23 year old Del Zotto for a 29 year old Klein. I want to get younger, cheaper assets back in any deal for Callahan.

And this assumes that would could even get St. Louis for Callahan 1 for 1. More than likely we would have to add at least 1 significant asset.
 
Trading a pick (or anything of value) along with Callahan to Tampa for St Louis would be the absolute definition of Sather insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
What past Sather move would you compare that to?
 
When the Rangers made the ECF during the 2011/12 season, Lundqvist's GAA was 1.82!.. That means if the Rangers had any kind of offense that season, they could actually have won the SC that season.. This year the Rangers have a better offense, a good defense, and still the best goalie in the world.

If you add Martin St Louis to the offense they have right now, there is absolutely a chance the Rangers could go on a run having the best goalie in the world playing for them, because they could score goals.
 
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