Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXIII: Getcha' pitchforks ready.

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Not sure if posted yet, but an hour ago from Boomer (love him or hate him)

NHL Rumors ‏@NHLRumorsDaily 6h
Boomer hasn't said a word since. I thinks he thinks he be wrong

Boomer Esiason ‏@7BOOMERESIASON 6h
@NHLRumorsDaily Trade deadline is when?

John ‏@bigjfreak123 2h
@7BOOMERESIASON Boom you think there's a chance Girardi gets moved too??? Doesn't sound like his new contract is close either.

Boomer Esiason ‏@7BOOMERESIASON 1h
@bigjfreak123 there are a Ton of moving parts in this equation anything can happen to any player

Not sure what to make of the last part, but I can say that Girardi certainly didn't seem to be a part of any "equation" previously.

"anything can happen...





to any player."

wat?
 
For those blaming Callahan and his agent, shame on you. Its Glen Sather and the New York Rangers that created this situation. The failure, year after year, to produce top-tier offensive talent caused them to elevate Callahan and his heart and soul/warrior status to the face of an original 6 franchise.

Will Callahan make the type of money hes seeking? Maybe. Does he feel he deserves it? Definitely, and thats the problem.
 
A discount? :laugh: :facepalm:

Did his agent use the Statefarm Discount Double Check? I think they forgot to apply the discounts.

Asking price - $7million

After the Discount Double Check +/- $5.9 million

Anything more than that........**** OFF !!!
 
Maybe Callahan's agent knows that Callahan is always hurt at least once a season maybe he thinks it could be his last contract? ???
 
Just looked through Cap Geek for the hell of it. Every single forward that has a cap hit at or above $7 million has hit the 30 goal mark at least once in their career. Callahan's career high is 29 in 11-12 where he played 76 games. He also played at a 30+ goal pace in 10-11 but only played in 60 games where he scored 23.

Therein lies the problem with Callahan. He wants to be paid like someone who is on the ice for 82 games. I could honestly care less that he scores at a 30 goal pace if he's injured 25% of the season. We're likely getting far worse production out of the player replacing him. It makes a difference. That's why I have far less issue with meeting Girardi's demands. First of all, they're much more reasonable. Second, he's an ironman who hardly ever misses a game. You just get more value out of those contracts.
 
Just looked through Cap Geek for the hell of it. Every single forward that has a cap hit at or above $7 million has hit the 30 goal mark at least once in their career. Callahan's career high is 29 in 11-12 where he played 76 games. He also played at a 30+ goal pace in 10-11 but only played in 60 games where he scored 23.

How many of them signed those contracts after July 1st, 2014?

Using other contracts for comparisons cannot be taken without context. The market price is whatever a team is willing to pay him. Callahan probably wouldn't be asking for that kind of money if he didn't know at least one team was willing to pay him. There's no precedent for it, so there has to be something else to it.

To a team like Buffalo, who needs to spend to hit the cap floor next season, Callahan is probably the perfect anchor for their rebuild. Local kid who can teach the kids how to be competitive, then when they're ready to compete for a cup, there's a great PR story in there about "Win it for Cally" who will be in his mid 30's by then.
 
Not sure if posted yet, but an hour ago from Boomer (love him or hate him)



Not sure what to make of the last part, but I can say that Girardi certainly didn't seem to be a part of any "equation" previously.

"anything can happen...





to any player."

wat?

Sadly, this feels like Boomer is backing off finally. The "trade deadline is when?" tweet made me feel better (obviously a fan of a Cally/StL swap), but "anything can happen" will probably lead to "remember I said the thing about the cold feet."
 
For those blaming Callahan and his agent, shame on you. Its Glen Sather and the New York Rangers that created this situation. The failure, year after year, to produce top-tier offensive talent caused them to elevate Callahan and his heart and soul/warrior status to the face of an original 6 franchise.

Will Callahan make the type of money hes seeking? Maybe. Does he feel he deserves it? Definitely, and thats the problem.

I can't be upset about a player getting as much as he can. That said, I love how you tell people "shame on you" for having a different opinion. Also the national media elevated him pretty high up themselves. Just listen to Pierre.
 
Sadly, this feels like Boomer is backing off finally. The "trade deadline is when?" tweet made me feel better (obviously a fan of a Cally/StL swap), but "anything can happen" will probably lead to "remember I said the thing about the cold feet."

That made no sense, much like the rest of his nonsensical tweets that plenty took as gospel.
 
Man...it's sad being one of the only guys around here who would rather see Cally come down in his demands and get signed for 6 to 6.5 mill than see him get traded.
 
I can't be upset about a player getting as much as he can. That said, I love how you tell people "shame on you" for having a different opinion. Also the national media elevated him pretty high up themselves. Just listen to Pierre.

"**** you Cally, you're not worth it" counts as a viable opinion? Maybe we really are doomed as a society.
 
Man...it's sad being one of the only guys around here who would rather see Cally come down in his demands and get signed for 6 to 6.5 mill than see him get traded.

Didn't you hear his agent? Apparently 6.75 is coming down. He should take his client and go not make the playoffs in buffalo for a while.
 
The only Cally extension I would be ok with is 6 for 5.875 mill. That's even pushing it for his abilities.
 
For those blaming Callahan and his agent, shame on you. Its Glen Sather and the New York Rangers that created this situation. The failure, year after year, to produce top-tier offensive talent caused them to elevate Callahan and his heart and soul/warrior status to the face of an original 6 franchise.

Will Callahan make the type of money hes seeking? Maybe. Does he feel he deserves it? Definitely, and thats the problem.

I can't help but feel this is directed at my post.

I'm not blaming Callahan or his agent, and I've stated over and over that I have no problem with what he is doing. There is, however, a reason behind it: he wants to get paid. I just don't want us to be the ones to pay him. If he wants to go into a very undesirable situation in pursuit of money, good luck to him.

And to blame Sather for this is ridiculous. He's made mistakes in constructing this roster, so you want him to make another mistake in caving to Callahan's demands? Ridiculous.

And spare me the whole spiel about our terrible roster raising Callahan to prominence. He would have excelled on any roster in this league, not just ours. Dustin Brown is the 4th or 5th best F on LAK's deep roster, and he's just as prominent as Callahan.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/h...i-distraction-article-1.1701421#ixzz2uN5WrqyP

He thinks Callahan could get 7+ for 7 years on the open market? Wat.

We don't know what the asking price really is though do we.


“We have no misconceptions that if the (Ranger) feel it’s not within their best business decision (to re-sign Callahan at a certain price), a trade could happen. That’s a decision they have to make,†Bartlett said. “We are both well aware we could get a phone call tomorrow saying you are now a member of ‘X’ team. But we’re going to keep working. I’ll never be never inflexible in discussions … and I can say that, despite all the reports … this is not a case where we’re out in the stratosphere at a number that no one would be willing to pay.â€

This is a key comment from callahan's agent.
 
Man...it's sad being one of the only guys around here who would rather see Cally come down in his demands and get signed for 6 to 6.5 mill than see him get traded.

I think more people would take this approach if it appeared like there was a realistic chance that Cally would lower his demands a bit... however, with his agent saying that his current demands could be considered a discount compared to what Cally would get on the open market, I think many fans are resigned to notion that he is not going to budge.
 
For those blaming Callahan and his agent, shame on you. Its Glen Sather and the New York Rangers that created this situation. The failure, year after year, to produce top-tier offensive talent caused them to elevate Callahan and his heart and soul/warrior status to the face of an original 6 franchise.

Will Callahan make the type of money hes seeking? Maybe. Does he feel he deserves it? Definitely, and thats the problem.


I disagree. The most offensively talented player isn't automatically the face of his franchise. Hank is by far the most talented player, though not offensively. Nash is more talented than Callahan on offense. McD is more talented at his own position than Callahan is at his.

Callahan was/is the face of the franchise because, until very, very recently, he played his heart out every game. He overcame his lack of talent in certain areas with hard work. People are drawn to that. People like a success story, and Americans by and large are drawn to their horatio alger stories, which Callahan's own story is a form of. "Great player comes to New York, plays great," doesn't have the draw that "underrated young player comes to New York, and through sheer handwork and courage, lifts himself into a leadership position in one of the NHL's oldest franchises" does in my opinion. Callahan's story is one that sells, as you can see when you talk to anybody who hardly knows the Rangers but knows who Callahan is, or when you see seas of Callahan jerseys at any game.

To me, his crazy demands are purely on Callahan and his agent. Sather kept a player that played hard, and Callahan earned every second of the spotlight that he had until very recently. The problem is, even with everything he does, his demands are ludicrous. Sather agreed to overpay him, but Callahan wants even more than an overpayment. That's nobody's fault but his own. He thinks some franchise will give him what he wants, and they probably will, however, he's been seriously misled if he thinks that a franchise with a fraction of a chance of winning anytime soon will bite on that deal.
 
That might not be very far from the truth. Didn't EDM offer Clarkson over $6M per last offseason? Some desperate team is going to throw a metric **** ton of money at Callahan. He has every right to go to UFA and pursue every last dime he can get. It's nice to see players (like McD) give a true hometown discount because they want to build something here, but for some guys it's just business. Callahan is the latter.

Im personally afraid McDonagh made such a friendly deal is bc he plans on going to Minn when it is up.
 
"**** you Cally, you're not worth it" counts as a viable opinion? Maybe we really are doomed as a society.

No, Callahan wanting money that he doesn't deserve and people being pissed off at him is. I disagree with it being his "fault", as you're supposed to get the most you can, but I don't see how it's "shame on" someone for being pissed at him.
 
His agent yapping about how he'll be seeking $50M must be doing wonders for his trade value.

I am fairly certain that it is more than known among the other GMs he is a rental only and will go to free agency, possibly less known, but out there is the inevitability that he signs with Buffalo.

I don't think contract demands at this point are going to hurt or help anyone.
 
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