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In terms of a strict rental, Alfredsson is a better fit for this team than Callahan IMO. I could see the reasoning behind that move.
 
Perhaps MSL is looking for an extension when hes eligible and that is part of the picture for TB. Hes an incredible skater. I would wager on him being highly productive into his early 40's.
 
I strongly disagree that swapping MSL for Callahan makes the Rangers a Cup contender. A good bit better, yes. Able to mop up in the regular season, yes.

Their center depth is still too weak, and they still need to find offensive punch from the blue line. If the Rangers are trading a player like Callahan, one of the biggest pieces they've moved in a loooooong while...I want them taking a CHANCE (even if that chance is a 10/1 longshot) at addressing those needs rather than chasing the waning production of a 38 y/o. Even if it does make them better in the short term.

It's classic Rangers shortsightedness.
 
Its so obviously MSL. This is going to be a pure family related move for Marty. Wants to be closer to home, spend more time with his kids. Probably told SY that he simply wants to be closer to home in the later years of his career.
 
can someone photoshop marty in a rangers uniform, just to get the excitement going :handclap:
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
I strongly disagree that swapping MSL for Callahan makes the Rangers a Cup contender. A good bit better, yes. Able to mop up in the regular season, yes.

Their center depth is still too weak, and they still need to find offensive punch from the blue line. If the Rangers are trading a player like Callahan, one of the biggest pieces they've moved in a loooooong while...I want them taking a CHANCE (even if that chance is a 10/1 longshot) at addressing those needs rather than chasing the waning production of a 38 y/o. Even if it does make them better in the short term.

It's classic Rangers shortsightedness.
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Yup.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
I strongly disagree that swapping MSL for Callahan makes the Rangers a Cup contender. A good bit better, yes. Able to mop up in the regular season, yes.

Their center depth is still too weak, and they still need to find offensive punch from the blue line. If the Rangers are trading a player like Callahan, one of the biggest pieces they've moved in a while...I want them taking a CHANCE at addressing those needs rather than chasing the waning production of a 38 y/o. Even if it does make them better in the short term.
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Maybe they move G for that offensive upgrade on the blueline? While is MSL is 38, he'll almost certainly be a 70+ point player next year, too, and he upgrades the team this year a fair bit.

Our center depth is pretty decent, IMO. All four of the players can make plays. I think MSL could reinvigorate Richards a bit, too. We don't have the slam dunk #1, but I'd say we have a nice group of solid 2nd line centers.
 
Well, just to chip in, there was a bit of scuttlebutt around Ottawa earlier this season that Alfredsson's family wasn't happy living in the Detroit area.

But, at the same time, Alfredsson has said in the past that he never wanted to be a rental for a team.
 
NYRFAN218 said:
The Rangers front office really knows how to leak information to sway PR in their favor. They did it with Prust who was a fan favorite when they leaked what he was asking for to almost turn the fans against him and they have prepared everyone mentally for a Callahan trade because the vast majority of Ranger fans (mainly people that don't post here) would freak out if Callahan was traded out of nowhere.
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Yup your right on. Its been obvious, Boomer serving this out this heavy, just adds to blatantness of it.
 
Brian Boyle to Montreal

I think Boyle is a great 4th liner and exactly what the Habs need. Big and tough, can kill penalties, win faceoffs and you can count on him for about 20 points a season. What's the general idea in New York, will he be resigned? And what will he ask for? If NY won't let him walk, what will it take for Montreal to pry him?
 
Age is just a number at this point for MSL. He gives you the puck carrier/distributor with speed we desperately need for a sustainable top line attack. No, hes not a center, but does that really matter?
 
OwenFully said:
I think Boyle is a great 4th liner and exactly what the Habs need. Big and tough, can kill penalties, win faceoffs and you can count on him for about 20 points a season. What's the general idea in New York, will he be resigned? And what will he ask for? If NY won't let him walk, what will it take for Montreal to pry him?
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Prust.
 
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Maybe they move G for that offensive upgrade on the blueline? While is MSL is 38, he'll almost certainly be a 70+ point player next year, too, and he upgrades the team this year a fair bit.

Our center depth is pretty decent, IMO. All four of the players can make plays. I think MSL could reinvigorate Richards a bit, too. We don't have the slam dunk #1, but I'd say we have a nice group of solid 2nd line centers.
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Again, just my opinion...but they are all too one dimensional. Taking aside guys like Kopitar, Towes, Sedin, Datsyuk who are elite #1s. There are no elite 2-way centers in the Bergeron, Zetterberg, prime M Richards, Kesler mold that I believe are so crucial on Cup runs.

What is the best case scenario with Richards/Brassard? What are they contributing if not scoring? They are fine in the regular season when they can mask some of their flaws with things like PP points. But that is where I have my issue. Stepan could potentially grow into a Krejci type role. Hopefully Lindberg can be a great 3rd line shutdown guy. But that's just hope.
 
Nightshift said:
Age is just a number at this point for MSL. He gives you the puck carrier/distributor with speed we desperately need for a sustainable top line attack. No, hes not a center, but does that really matter?
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Frankly, MSL can play into his 40s ala Ray Whitney. And he'll be better than Whitney currently is at the same age.
 
someone stole hank said:
I know it's about all trades and business but.... we're about to lose our captain :(
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Well, he wants to get paid. And unlike most players the Rangers pay, he actually earned it by playing his ass off for this team. You can see why that irks so many posters here; its so far off the norm. Usually, the Rangers only open the checkbook to players that haven't done a damn thing for this team, and most likely never will.

Nevermind how for YEARS, all most Ranger fans were looking for was a homegrown, hardworking, all-around player with no ego. A guy that put the front of the jersey first every night. But now that it is no longer convenient, now that for the first time in years, he shows a flaw, the revisionist history takes over. Suddenly, he's a piece of crap. "He's a plugger." "Don't let the door hit ya..."

Right, these are the sentiments Callahan deserves from this team's fans. :rolleyes:

For the record, if this rumor is true, and the Rangers are getting MSL (which makes far less sense now than it did 2 years ago when Tortorella was stll here, which is when I brought up MSL as possibly eventually coming to the Rangers), he's probably my 2nd favorite non-Ranger player after Datsyuk. He's incredible. A true pleasure to watch play. But I still think moving Callahan is a terrible mistake.

I can't understand why people think players like Callahan are so easy to replace, because they aren't, and that will become obvious over the next few years when suddenly there is a noticeable lack of that one player that is so effective at disrupting the opposing team's plans as often as a Callahan does.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
Again, just my opinion...but they are all too one dimensional. Taking aside guys like Kopitar, Towes, Sedin, Datsyuk who are elite #1s. There are no elite 2-way centers in the Bergeron, Zetterberg, prime M Richards, Kesler mold that I believe are so crucial on Cup runs.

What is the best case scenario with Richards/Brassard? What are they contributing if not scoring? They are fine in the regular season when they can mask some of their flaws with things like PP points. But that is where I have my issue. Stepan could potentially grow into a Krejci type role. Hopefully Lindberg can be a great 3rd line shutdown guy. But that's just hope.
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A lot of building a team is hope. Front office has to put their prospects in a position to succeed if they want them to develop properly. If they work out, great, you can go along as planned. If they don't, a slight change needs to be made.

Personally, I think Stepan is a very solid 2-way center, and that, honestly, Brassard has been developing in that aspect as well. I've been pretty hard on him for most this year, but I really haven't found myself bashing Brassard in the defensive zone. He makes some bad passes, but he makes up for with great ones.

Richards is one thing, but with MSL I think he'd really up his game.

Also, we can't discount our fantastic defense and Hank. I think this group of forwards has enough punch to give the D and Hank enough goal support to work with.
 
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