Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXI: Boomer is running this board.

[MrEctions]

St Louis is going to look good in the blue.

 

[Fitzy]

Jagr at 42 is doing more than Gaborik at 32... it's not unreasonable to suggest that MSL will be a better player still in 3 years than Ryan Callahan is at that point. Different styles, durability, ect.

I'm not saying he'll be a PPG guy here, but it's a hard deal to pass up to get the guy on your roster for a rental. Much better MSL for this year and next than Chris Stewart.

 

[haveandare]

Jagr at 42 is doing more than Gaborik at 32... it's not unreasonable to suggest that MSL will be a better player still in 3 years than Ryan Callahan is at that point. Different styles, durability, ect.

I'm not saying he'll be a PPG guy here, but it's a hard deal to pass up to get the guy on your roster for a rental. Much better MSL for this year and next than Chris Stewart.

That's very true. I'm just glad it's sounding like it's definitely not Stewart. I do not want that guy on this team.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

a 40 year old MSL can do a hell of a lot more than most 25 year olds. Marty isnt the norm, hes an exception.

Agreed, I said that originally BUT how much longer? 3 years? 5 years? Doubt it. And we have many needs to address if we wanna win 5 years from now. Be positive all we want, this team is NOT a contender. So, will St. Louis make a long-term difference? NO, and you know it. We are more than MSL away.

 

[eco's bones]

The way St. Louis is going he might have a few seasons left. He's in tremendous condition and a move to the Rangers I would think would incentivize him to keep his intensity going. He has better wheels than Jagr, Chelios or Selanne at the same stage of their careers and all of them kept going for years.

The thing that bothers me is that if Richards is helping to broker this--the Rangers are likely going to be thinking more seriously about keeping him around. St. Louis might be around for a couple years or 5 years. For this to work he's going to have to give us several solid seasons. Richards I don't think is going to be capable of anything near that.

 

[LittleKev6D9]

Why would TBL want this trade? MSL is their captain. And a much better player than Callahan. Doesn't make much sense for either team. And NYR gets MSL on a 5.65 mill contract, I mean that isn't shedding cap space necessarily

 

[Doctyl]

Why would TBL want this trade? MSL is their captain. And a much better player than Callahan. Doesn't make much sense for either team. And NYR gets MSL on a 5.65 mill contract, I mean that isn't shedding cap space necessarily

only reason they do it is if Marty has demanded a trade and has Yzermans hands tied

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Agreed, I said that originally BUT how much longer? 3 years? 5 years? Doubt it. And we have many needs to address if we wanna win 5 years from now. Be positive all we want, this team is NOT a contender. So, will St. Louis make a long-term difference? NO, and you know it. We are more than MSL away.

I'm not totally happy about it either, but MSL is only signed for another year after this one, so the Rangers won't be on the hook for too long if they don't want to be. He also might just have a positive effect on our crop of young scoring wingers in a way Callahan could not.

 

[haveandare]

Why would TBL want this trade? MSL is their captain. And a much better player than Callahan. Doesn't make much sense for either team. And NYR gets MSL on a 5.65 mill contract, I mean that isn't shedding cap space necessarily

Yeah, this is what leaves me skeptical. What good does this do TB unless MSL has absolutely demanded a trade before this years deadline? And why would he do that?

They get a downgrade in a winger for a few months at the expense of their captain, and a guy who has been on their team forever.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

St. Louis makes absolutey no sense. Tampa gets hosed in every aspect outside of age.

 

[Thirty One]

I really can't believe this is getting as much attention as it is. Seems to make zero sense for Tampa Bay.

 

[rangers91*]

I really can't believe this is getting as much attention as it is. Seems to make zero sense for Tampa Bay.

Boomer Esiason ‏@7BOOMERESIASON Feb 21
Marty, Marty , Marty in a good way? Hard to believe.

this says it all

 

[LittleKev6D9]

St. Louis makes absolutey no sense. Tampa gets hosed in every aspect outside of age.

Maybe Rangers are giving up a pick too. That would even it up a bit

 

[cd211]

Why would TBL want this trade? MSL is their captain. And a much better player than Callahan. Doesn't make much sense for either team. And NYR gets MSL on a 5.65 mill contract, I mean that isn't shedding cap space necessarily

You ever think msl wants out of tbay?

He's boys with Richards.. And would take him over cally any day of the week even at his age..

 

[Ex Officer Friendly]

I really can't believe this is getting as much attention as it is. Seems to make zero sense for Tampa Bay.

This,

The only thing that would have it make sense is if it is a situation like Iginla (not as far as going for a cup, but the NMC)
Where he has told Steve Yzerman that he only wants to go to NY and NY only offers Callahan

 

[haveandare]

If MSL wants a trade, NY makes the most sense, but I don't see why he'd want at a trade at this rate. He's a legend in TB and he's got Stamkos to set up all day long.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Yeah, this is what leaves me skeptical. What good does this do TB unless MSL has absolutely demanded a trade before this years deadline? And why would he do that?

They get a downgrade in a winger for a few months at the expense of their captain, and a guy who has been on their team forever.

Don't his kids live in Conn? It's possible MSL has decided he wants to finish up near his children while they grow up. He does have an NMC and could control where he goes.

 

[cd211]

If MSL wants a trade, NY makes the most sense, but I don't see why he'd want at a trade at this rate. He's a legend in TB and he's got Stamkos to set up all day long.

His home is in ct in the off season.. Chance to play closer to that home and play with his boy

 

[*Bob Richards*]

Maybe Rangers are giving up a pick too. That would even it up a bit

Oh there would definitely be more than just Callahan coming back for Tampa. The only realistic way I see this happening is if Marty demanded a trade to NY and tied up Tampas hands.

Otherwise, this "rumor" seems to be based off what one Internet poster put on a message board yesterday with absolutely no credibility to back it up. HF really takes miles from inches.

 

[Thirty One]

Callahan is a super guy, a very good hockey player, and a great energy example for younger players. Darcy Tucker was too, but that all turned out to be a lot less endearing at 0.45 Pts/GP than at 0.80 Pts/GP.

The Rangers owe him nothing. He negotiated all his previous contracts through his own free will. The only reason to sign him will be because you think his value on the ice over the life of the contract will be greater than the cost of the contract. I'd suggest it won't be.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Oh there would definitely be more than just Callahan coming back for Tampa. The only realistic way I see this happening is if Marty demanded a trade to NY and tied up Tampas hands.

Otherwise, this "rumor" seems to be based off what one Internet poster put on a message board yesterday with absolutely no credibility to back it up. HF really takes miles from inches.

The thing is, it fits with what Boomer is hinting at. It's speculation at best, but it's decent speculation within the situation. I mean, there have been rumours in the past connecting MSL and the Rangers.

 

[beastly115]

If MSL wants a trade, NY makes the most sense, but I don't see why he'd want at a trade at this rate. He's a legend in TB and he's got Stamkos to set up all day long.

Maybe he just wants to spend the rest of his career collecting paychecks with relatively low production? Isn't that why most superstars come to NY? Plus, he won't have to worry about playing hockey into June...

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

I'm not totally happy about it either, but MSL is only signed for another year after this one, so the Rangers won't be on the hook for too long if they don't want to be. He also might just have a positive effect on our crop of young scoring wingers in a way Callahan could not.

I do get that, and if it's the best offer we get (all of this being speculation, I know), OK... BUT, Callahan will probably be playing 8 years from now. Will he be any good, likely not. But will MSL be playing in 8 years? Definitely not... teams make trades for a guy they believe can put them over the top. Can MSL put us over the top in the next 2 years? Highly doubtful IMHO. Can Cally put TBL over the top this season? I'd say no, but who knows? I'd make a ****** GM anyway... but it's possible... if the sign him, can he put them over the top in the next 7-8 years? Who knows?

From that perspective, they win the trade, but most likely, the trade will be a waste for both sides... unless you measure a trade's success by how much fans are wowed by nice passes and crafty dekes, and goals... then we win.

 

[Ail]

can someone photoshop marty in a rangers uniform, just to get the excitement going

 

[Thirty One]

Boomer Esiason ‏@7BOOMERESIASON Feb 21
Marty, Marty , Marty in a good way? Hard to believe.

this says it all

He said that a full day before he started on Callahan, I believe.

Besides, he said the player is gritty and that the Rangers would be getting a conditional pick if anything. Doesn't scream a St. Louis trade to me.