Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXI: Boomer is running this board.

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Many would want Stewert, but he would also only be here 1 year more unless we are willing to write him a blanc check of course.

MSL is signed for another year. He would be good that year. Probably has one more year in him at least after that.

Unless MSL has asked out, I am not sure why Tampa would do MSL for Cally though...
 
I just can't believe Marty STL would demand a trade midseason from a team that is pretty much going to make the playoffs baring an unforeseen disaster. Even if he was angry at Yzerman, it's not who he is. He's a pros pro and a classy guy.

Makes no sense to me.

If it is TBL, I'd love to try and add to the deal and get Gudas back. That guy is an animal.

The only thing I can think of is they feel they have enough offensive firepower in TBL and want more grit, and they don't want to pay Marty anymore but rather like Drouin, Ernie, etc. fill his role by committee starting next year. It's still very strange.
 
If we traded our players for picks/prospects, are they going to be ready anytime soon when Hank is still playing at an elite level?.. If not, those prospects won't matter much, unless someone really believes Cam is a goalie of the future..

There has to be someone after Hank right? I mean, I don't think the ideal is to say our window is up once he's gone... it may not be easy to fill his shoes but someone will.

Some people want to contend every year... it's not easy, but that would be ideal right?

Otherwise, yeah... trade our youth/picks for any help who will be here for the next 5 - 7 years.

(P.S. that was intentionally supposed to sound like Sather/the NYR of days gone by)
 
Boomer's comment about him being a player we would only like in a NYR uniform and we hate otherwise (think Carcillo) really throws me off. I mean, who doesn't respect MSL?

I don't think that's what he meant. Someone specifically mentioned Ott and he just responded to it. It wasn't a suggestion that the player coming in return (potentially) is a "hate unless he's on your club" type.
 
I really think the "Marty, Marty, Marty" tweet was about Brodeur, honestly.

The guy is an entertainer, and a brilliant one at that. He's sensationalizing everything knowing that the slightly less-evolved readers will say, "he didn't say know, so it must be BACON!!! **** YES, IT'S BACON!"
 
Probably done more bad than good overall? 1 meaningful season in 14 years. Not one legitimate elite first line center in 14 years drafted, traded for, or signed. And any success has been almost entirely on the back of Henrik Lundqvist.

He's been an epic embarrassment the likes of which pro sports has rarely seen. He mismanaged this Callahan situation, too. He should have signed him to a long term deal the last time around.

Whats done is done at this point. In regards to Callahan, I agree with you about the idiot fans now saying that he stinks - I even agree that its better to overpay a homegrown guy than some mercenary free agent.

But with that said - Callahan wants too much money and, more importantly, too many years. While overpaying him could conceivably be viewed as a better option, not paying him at all is the best option. In the here and now, trading him sure seems like the right move.

Now, if Sather turns around and gives Stastny 7 years/$49M, Ill be absolutely furious.
 
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There has to be someone after Hank right? I mean, I don't think the ideal is to say our window is up once he's gone... it may not be easy to fill his shoes but someone will.

Some people want to contend every year... it's not easy, but that would be ideal right?

Otherwise, yeah... trade our youth/picks for any help who will be here for the next 5 - 7 years.

(P.S. that was intentionally supposed to sound like Sather/the NYR of days gone by)

I mean yeah I get that.. would it be nice? sure.. but Nash is 29, Hank is 31 about to be 32.. What kind of window is really left to make a run with those two? 5-6 years?
 
I'll gladly lose my 167 vcash to -31-, Ail, and Stasis (:madfire:)...

Awww, nothing personal when I mentioned the long paragraphs mate! It wasn't really a jab at you as a lot of people write walls of text. I was just pointing out that I tend not to read those contained in the trade speculation threads. I can't mock what I don't know! =)
 
I highly highly doubt we are getting Martin St. Louis for Ryan Callahan. To me that makes zero sense but I guess crazier stuff has happened.
 
I'd love to Get either Subban or Simmonds for Cally straight up..

So would anyone, since they are both worth considerably more.

Subban is a top 5 D-Man in the league. Do you really think they would ever consider trading him straight up for Callahan. I doubt they trade him for anything, let alone captain intangibles UFA.
 
Has Kunitz been ruled out? I hope it's not him but he fits all the criteria I know of, especially that people would likely be very unhappy about the trade at first.
 
Is Lundqvist going to fall apart in the next few years? The Rangers have him under contract until he is 39.

The Rangers need to build a team around him. These quick fix dreams never work. The big free agents don't work.

Brooks wrote about Lundqvist in a column for Monday's Post

Lundqvist returns to New York disappointed but hungry. Understand this, though: Even had Sweden won gold again, Lundqvist’s quest for championships would not have been sated. He has never won a Stanley Cup, he has never been to the Final, and no NHL goaltender this deep into his career has ever won his first Cup playing for his original team.

Winning gold again would likely have only emboldened the critics who have stamped Lundqvist as a superior regular-season and international goaltender but merely ordinary in the playoffs, through which he has a career 30-37 record.

http://nypost.com/2014/02/23/silver-winning-lundqvist-must-now-guide-rangers-to-playoffs/

Lundqvist needs help. The Rangers are spinning their wheels. Its sad.
 
Is Lundqvist going to fall apart in the next few years? The Rangers have him under contract until he is 39.

The Rangers need to build a team around him. These quick fix dreams never work. The big free agents don't work.

Brooks wrote about Lundqvist in a column for Monday's Post



http://nypost.com/2014/02/23/silver-winning-lundqvist-must-now-guide-rangers-to-playoffs/

Lundqvist needs help. The Rangers are spinning their wheels. Its sad.

Only the Rangers could have the best goaltender of his generation for his entire career and not even turn in a finals appearance
 
I mean yeah I get that.. would it be nice? sure.. but Nash is 29, Hank is 31 about to be 32.. What kind of window is really left to make a run with those two? 5-6 years?

Quiet honestly I don't see Nash as being that big of a piece... he hasn't really done a whole heck of a lot for us, especially in the post season... Now I'm not saying he's easily replaceable but I certainly get where you're coming from re: Hank.

Keep in mind the defense looks sounds for years to come as well.

I think at this point we are at a crossroads. We could use Cally (and/or Danny G) to replenish a cupboard that isn't all that full right now, or we could turn one (or both) into shorter term upgrades and go for it now/next yr/year after.

If the latter is going to be the policy, we are all going to suffer if/when it fails because another dark ages will most surely follow.
 
Is Lundqvist going to fall apart in the next few years? The Rangers have him under contract until he is 39.

The Rangers need to build a team around him. These quick fix dreams never work. The big free agents don't work.

Brooks wrote about Lundqvist in a column for Monday's Post



http://nypost.com/2014/02/23/silver-winning-lundqvist-must-now-guide-rangers-to-playoffs/

Lundqvist needs help. The Rangers are spinning their wheels. Its sad.

Which IMO, lends credence to the fact he needs established NHL skill around him to help him succeed in the postseason. Hank doesn't have time on his side to wait for the likes of a highly touted prospect to "hopefully" develop into the missing link. That or a first round pick to turn into the next Tavares, Patrick Kane, or insert name here... He isn't getting any younger as some would like the average age of the roster to be 24....We've lacked post season scoring his entire career.. That needs addressed..
 
Quiet honestly I don't see Nash as being that big of a piece... he hasn't really done a whole heck of a lot for us, especially in the post season... Now I'm not saying he's easily replaceable but I certainly get where you're coming from re: Hank.

Keep in mind the defense looks sounds for years to come as well.

I think at this point we are at a crossroads. We could use Cally (and/or Danny G) to replenish a cupboard that isn't all that full right now, or we could turn one (or both) into shorter term upgrades and go for it now/next yr/year after.

If the latter is going to be the policy, we are all going to suffer if/when it fails because another dark ages will most surely follow.

Perhaps we give him more than 1 postseason and 10 games before making a statement like that?
 
Which IMO, lends credence to the fact he needs established NHL skill around him to help him succeed in the postseason. Hank doesn't have time on his side to wait for the likes of a highly touted prospect to "hopefully" develop into the missing link. That or a first round pick to turn into the next Tavares, Patrick Kane, or insert name here... He isn't getting any younger as some would like the average age of the roster to be 24....We've lacked post season scoring his entire career.. That needs addressed..

It needs to be a happy medium. The Rangers have been using the cut and paste approach where they import this "established" NHL talent for ages and its rarely worked out.

Theres always seemingly a reason to take shortcuts to compete with this franchise. As a result, they've had more windows than a glass factory.
 
Did anyone tweet to ask if it was Kunitz?

Hopefully nobody would think that it was even worth it considering that Crosby and Kunitz have great chemistry and the Rangers would be trading their captain to a divisional rival.

....but whatever, not like the tweet hasnt caused this thread to go off the rails in the first place.
 
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