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Speculation: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXI: Boomer is running this board.

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SnowblindNYR said:
Why do so many people put so much stock in a rumor from what appears to be an unknown poster and for all we know is lying through his teeth?
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Haha i didn't even know about this rumor from the unknown poster your referring too until this morning. Someone said his posts were removed. I deduced it down to St. Louis based on Kreider's chart of Boomer twitter Q/As. (it is by far the most concise way to look at it, its on page one of this thread)

But it was a further 'is this for real' when I heard it in the morning.

Snowblind I agree with you a lot of the time, and I don't want to seem like I'm attacking you or anything. But don't be selective and pass it off like the only reason people are talking about this is bc of this guys post.
 
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pixel said:
A blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut, a broken clock is right two times a day, and Sather made a couple of good moves in 14 years. Wonderful for him. How does St. Louis make us a real contender? If he doesn't, what the hell is the point? Get some assets for the future. All this is, is Sather chucking the ball down field blindfolded in hopes he can win something before he's gone.

When does the nonsense end and a real plan get put in place.
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We aren't going to be able to commit to a full rebuild, will we? With Nash, McDonagh and Lundqvist? If the two poles are "a team that can compete for the cup" and "a team that has to be blown up and replaced with 20-year-old Russians," we're much closer to the first.

In any case, if weird circumstances have pushed a PPG player into our hands for the opportunity cost of, like...Chris Stewart and a late 1st, we have to be flexible and accept them.
 
jas said:
Boomer Esiason is lying through his teeth? People are putting faith in a known public Ranger fan, who has access to MSG sources and someone who has given out proven info in the past.
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Thank you. One thing thats been evident through this thread how many people make their statements either not really having a full grasp of whats being talked about or choosing overlook certain points of it.
 
Bagel Bites said:
We aren't going to be able to commit to a full rebuild, will we? With Nash, McDonagh and Lundqvist? If the two poles are "a team that can compete for the cup" and "a team that has to be blown up and replaced with 20-year-old Russians," we're much closer to the first.

In any case, if weird circumstances have pushed a PPG player into our hands for the opportunity cost of, like...Chris Stewart and a late 1st, we have to be flexible and accept them.
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It doesn't have to be a full rebuild. But a plan of some sort would be nice. Trading for a 38-year-old gives me Vietnam flashbacks of the early 2000s.
 
pixel said:
A blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut, a broken clock is right two times a day, and Sather made a couple of good moves in 14 years. Wonderful for him. How does St. Louis make us a real contender? If he doesn't, what the hell is the point? Get some assets for the future. All this is, is Sather chucking the ball down field blindfolded in hopes he can win something before he's gone.

When does the nonsense end and a real plan get put in place.
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You said you have no faith in him doing anything right. I showed that he has done things right in the past. Now a broken clock is right twice a day.

St Louis doesn't make NYR a contender. No deal that could happen this year would in my opinion. What's the point of getting him? Again, if theres no better offer and the team things there's a good RW in the pipeline, the point is to replace a player who is gone in months with a player who is gone at the end of next year, and a player who is far better offensively. He can plug up the RW spot while a younger player gets better without leaving the team high and dry. He can hopefully be a part of keeping the team competitive while some vital young pieces grow up, making sure that they play in a culture that is somewhat used to being at least decently successful.

While Sather's past strategy of old guys was dumb, this boards strategy of trade everyone worth anything for picks and prospects is equally silly. Sometimes an older player is the right person to accomplish what you're trying to accomplish. Sometimes a teams window isn't open long enough down the road to justify trading now for way later.

NYR Sting said:
Probably done more bad than good overall? 1 meaningful season in 14 years. Not one legitimate elite first line center in 14 years drafted, traded for, or signed. And any success has been almost entirely on the back of Henrik Lundqvist.

He's been an epic embarrassment the likes of which pro sports has rarely seen. He mismanaged this Callahan situation, too. He should have signed him to a long term deal the last time around.
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The poster said Sather doesn't do anything right. My point was that he actually has done things right in the past. Lose "probably" if it makes you feel better. The point is that it's silly to judge what he hasn't even done yet on what he's done in the past. He's made bad moves and he's good moves. Even though the bad comes more often than the good, it's not as if good things literally never happen with him.
 
RangerBoy said:
https://twitter.com/BrettCyrgalis/status/437685458467049472
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the only part of that tweet that matters is the fact that they responded to the rumblings. The rest is empty.

Who's the remote corners, Boomer or the board. And if its directed to Boomer, thats kinda a diss at him, and if these boards are actually being referenced by the post. BS theres nothing to it.

The media's game is so easy to understand. Its all the crazy stories that make it a minefield to nagivate
 
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haveandare said:
While Sather's past strategy of old guys was dumb, this boards strategy of trade everyone worth anything for picks and prospects is equally silly. Sometimes an older player is the right person to accomplish what you're trying to accomplish. Sometimes a teams window isn't open long enough down the road to justify trading now for way later.
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When you don't plan for the future, the window is always closing.
 
Bagel Bites said:
We aren't going to be able to commit to a full rebuild, will we? With Nash, McDonagh and Lundqvist? If the two poles are "a team that can compete for the cup" and "a team that has to be blown up and replaced with 20-year-old Russians," we're much closer to the first.

In any case, if weird circumstances have pushed a PPG player into our hands for the opportunity cost of, like...Chris Stewart and a late 1st, we have to be flexible and accept them.
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They don't need to go into full rebuild to do things right. The only question that needs to be asked is "does this make us a legit contender" if the amswer is no, then what is the point?
 
Tawnos said:
He said "I don't think so" to three teams.

Which is a bizarre response for someone who knows the deal.
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I clearly must have missed something, been extremely busy the last days, but didn't Boomer say that he didn't know who it was?
 
Crease said:
When you don't plan for the future, the window is always closing.
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Again, if this dream offer of great picks and prospects for Callahan isn't there, then what? Then this trade. I've said that in many posts. It's not ideal, but Callahan isn't exactly an ideal piece himself. He's not a game breaker, he's been hurt a lot recently, and his demands are absurd, so whatever team gets him is unlikely to sign him. Who exactly is going to trade serious future pieces for this guy?

And, say what you want metaphorically, but this team's window is closed in a very real way the second Hank is gone or loses his magic.

I'm all for building for the future, but sometimes it's not possible or the best idea, and this situation is looking like it's one of those.
 
If we traded our players for picks/prospects, are they going to be ready anytime soon when Hank is still playing at an elite level?.. If not, those prospects won't matter much, unless someone really believes Cam is a goalie of the future..
 
haveandare said:
Again, if this dream offer of great picks and prospects for Callahan isn't there, then what? Then this trade. I've said that in many posts. It's not ideal, but Callahan isn't exactly an ideal piece himself. He's not a game breaker, he's been hurt a lot recently, and his demands are absurd, so whatever team gets him is unlikely to sign him. Who exactly is going to trade serious future pieces for this guy?

And, say what you want metaphorically, but this team's window is closed in a very real way the second Hank is gone or loses his magic.

I'm all for building for the future, but sometimes it's not possible or the best idea, and this situation is looking like it's one of those.
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You knows, MSL may have more longevity and good years left than Callahan....
 
I trust Boomer as a source, he's got integrity and knows a lot of people within the Rangers organization.

MSL would be shocking. I don't think he's a long term answer by any means but would make this team instantly better now.

If it was up to me I'd try to get a first rounder but that doesn't appear to be the course Sather would take.

My guess is he goes to Philly. I could see Simmonds or Hartnell as the return
 
pixel said:
They don't need to go into full rebuild to do things right. The only question that needs to be asked is "does this make us a legit contender" if the amswer is no, then what is the point?
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Because it sounds like fantastic value. None of us know what the GM chatter around Callahan is. Maybe players like Grigorenko are flying at us from all angles; maybe they only want us to add a little sweetener to get a Yakupov or a Zibanejad who can possibly carry a franchise in a couple years. I don't think that's the case, at least it shouldn't be the case, and if we do end up with St. Louis in a blue sweater then it's because of luck and circumstances.

We don't have to sell the farm to all takers, but we definitely don't have to be afraid of winning hockey games just because we're not one of the first five names on the odds list.
 
This is Boomer. It's not like we are talking about Eklund, Boomer actually has some integrity. We are also purely speculating as Boom hasn't said the name of the player at all.
 
I would definitely welcome MSL for Callahan if that's the best deal out there. I just would be shocked if Stevie Y signed off on it. Someone would have to join Callahan, no?
 
Someone ask him if the traded players team was in the southeast division and now is in the metropolitan. So we could rule out Washington/ Carolina
 
Boomer's comment about him being a player we would only like in a NYR uniform and we hate otherwise (think Carcillo) really throws me off. I mean, who doesn't respect MSL?
 
skymachine said:
Boomer's comment about him being a player we would only like in a NYR uniform and we hate otherwise (think Carcillo) really throws me off. I mean, who doesn't respect MSL?
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Malkin. Book it. Doesn't need to be like carcillo in terms of skill though bc Malkin does fit that bill although obviously it's not him. Chris Neal! Legit first liner lol. I am more convinced that Boomer is 100% wrong but I'll sit back and wait to be pleasantly surprised
 
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