Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Trade Deadline edition

[The Great Weal]

Boring segment on Habs. Max only moving if they get a C back. They’ve talked with Blues, probably interested in Fabbri but Blues are unlikely to make a big move of that sort.

Plekanec might come back on a cheap 1 year deal since he loves Montreal and Julien loves him.

Puke.

Lol Fabbri, I'd fly all the way to Montreal just to punch Bergevin.

 

[The Great Weal]

According to Yvon Pedneault on 91.9, MB is calling for Brandon Saad...

Lmao, Galchenyuk for Saad. I'll cry.

 

[Runner77]

According to Yvon Pedneault on 91.9, MB is calling for Brandon Saad...

What are we -- Chicago's affiliate?

Lemme guess, this is playing a part again ...

Saad was selected by Chicago in the second round (No. 43) of the 2011 draft and won the Stanley Cup with the Blackhawks in 2013 and 2015.

With Shaw sidelined, Bergevin wants to get someone else in the room, to flash Cup rings to teammates. #charaterbuilding #answerinroom

 

[Captain Mountain]

What are we -- Chicago's affiliate?

Lemme guess, this is playing a part again ...



With Shaw sidelined, Bergevin wants to get someone else in the room, to flash Cup rings to teammates. #charaterbuilding #answerinroom

Depending on the cost, Saad would actually be an analytically-savvy, buy-low opportunity.

As much as I can't stand the CHaracter crap, Bergevin has been 50-50 in dealing with Bowman.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Lmao, Galchenyuk for Saad. I'll cry.

Chicago’s apprent ask for Saad before he was traded was Chucky +.

 

[Runner77]

Lol Fabbri, I'd fly all the way to Montreal just to punch Bergevin.

I didn't listen to the BobCast. Is he suggesting the Fabbri in the context of a Pacioretty trade?

Fabbri: "His lack of optimum size may curtail his National Hockey League impact, so he must get physically stronger (and add weight) in order to better handle the tighter checking of the big league." (Forecaster)

Oh, and what about those injuries?

St. Louis Blues forward Robby Fabbri is out for the season after reinjuring his surgically repaired left knee. ...

Fabbri tore his left ACL on Feb. 4 against the Pittsburgh Penguins and missed the rest of last season. He had surgery Feb. 28 and was cleared to resume training July 31. The Blues felt Fabbri, who had 29 points (11 goals, 18 assists) in 51 games last season, would be 100 percent this season and were experimenting with moving him back to center.

Please, let this be a Fabbrication.

 

[vokiel]

Lol Fabbri, I'd fly all the way to Montreal just to punch Bergevin.

Yeah because with a reconstructed knee he must be a hell of a bargain, which is what Patches is worth according to the jackasses from the press. You know Bergy just can't resist the bargains. He's got thrift store OCD.

 

[Runner77]

Yeah because with a reconstructed knee he must be a hell of a bargain, which is what Patches is worth according to the jackasses from the press. You know Bergy just can't resist the bargains. He's got thrift store OCD.

Aka "Future Garage Sale Item".

 

[Vachon23]

Saad vs Shaw + +

 

[417]

If we have no one else then whatever. Jake Hughes is a hell of a talent.

If the end result is Jake Hughes....then we have other players within the organization who would benefit from that icetime.

 

[Luigi Habs]

Not dealing Plekanec for assets would be anothe epic failure

 

[Runner77]

Not dealing Plekanec for assets would be anothe epic failure

Would be a failure, but not epic. Plekanec could be worth a 3rd or 4th round pick according to some, especially now given how many rental players are entering the market.

The epic failure is the current contract.

 

[WG]

Depending on the cost, Saad would actually be an analytically-savvy, buy-low opportunity.

As much as I can't stand the CHaracter crap, Bergevin has been 50-50 in dealing with Bowman.

First four words are key. If Bergy trades valuable assets, then sequence of events could be viewed as

a) **** around and let Radulov, who was a 50+ winger, leave for nothing vs. offering a contract in the 6.5-7M range.
b) trade Galch or Poehling plus pick for Saad, who we hope gets back to 50+ points for his 6M/year contract. But them ringzzzz, tho.

Savvy asset management. Now, if he can get Saad here for spare parts like Shawzie, then sure.

 

[Captain Mountain]

First four words are key. If Bergy trades valuable assets, then sequence of events could be viewed as

a) **** around and let Radulov, who was a 50+ winger, leave for nothing vs. offering a contract in the 6.5-7M range.
b) trade Galch or Poehling plus pick for Saad, who we hope gets back to 50+ points for his 6M/year contract. But them ringzzzz, tho.

Savvy asset management. Now, if he can get Saad here for spare parts like Shawzie, then sure.

Eh, if Galchenyuk is doomed as a winger here, Saad represent more term, slightly higher cost and much better defensive play and ES play. For someone a year and a half older. Free Galchenyuk from Montreal and get a Pacioretty replacement? I'd do it.

 

[void]

Game is against Calgary. I wonder who he's looking at.

 

[Habfan10]

Here’s a hypothetical scenario. Say the Habs win the draft lottery, would there be a package that makes sense for the Habs to trade that pick? Say on draft day Buffalo says will swap #1 picks and also add Mittelstadt and Reinhart...would you be tempted to bite? Here the Habs would get two young centres and could draft a dman with Buffalo’s pick.

 

[EveryDay]

Game is against Calgary. I wonder who he's looking at.

Mark Jankowski is my guess....

 

[Runner77]

Here’s a hypothetical scenario. Say the Habs win the draft lottery, would there be a package that makes sense for the Habs to trade that pick? Say on draft day Buffalo says will swap #1 picks and also add Mittelstadt and Reinhart...would you be tempted to bite? Here the Habs would get two young centres and could draft a dman with Buffalo’s pick.

Not for a first overall pick. Plus Reinhart is a average skater, not convinced he'll remain a center or be an effective center if he remains there. Mittelstadt is definitely a great asset but would not trade for him alone, it would take much more than Reinhart as the 2nd piece.

 

[sampollock]

Mark Jankowski is my guess....

solid player, if that is what that is.

 

[Weber Fan]

Mark Jankowski is my guess....

Sam Bennett?

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Here’s a hypothetical scenario. Say the Habs win the draft lottery, would there be a package that makes sense for the Habs to trade that pick? Say on draft day Buffalo says will swap #1 picks and also add Mittelstadt and Reinhart...would you be tempted to bite? Here the Habs would get two young centres and could draft a dman with Buffalo’s pick.

no way a gm will pass on Dahlin

 

[c3z4r]

Here’s a hypothetical scenario. Say the Habs win the draft lottery, would there be a package that makes sense for the Habs to trade that pick? Say on draft day Buffalo says will swap #1 picks and also add Mittelstadt and Reinhart...would you be tempted to bite? Here the Habs would get two young centres and could draft a dman with Buffalo’s pick.

Don't think anybody can pass up on drafting a bigger version of Erik Karlsson. Besides, he's an LD, so he'd fit perfectly for us for pairing with Weber.

 

[yianik]

Mark Jankowski is my guess....

Him and Valimaki for Patches.

 

[Gabriiel40]

Don't think anybody can pass up on drafting a bigger version of Erik Karlsson. Besides, he's an LD, so he'd fit perfectly for us for pairing with Weber.

Doesn't that start to make the D look better ?

Dahlin-Weber
Mete-Petry
Alzner-Juulsen

Alzner only being there because of how hard it would be to move him and to be a 3rd pairing defensive D-man with a reduces role. I think Alzner was asked to do too much in Montreal when signed.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Carlson shoots right and McDonagh shoots left. McDonagh is the type I want on our D as he is very tough to play against. We would have the prospect pool to make a move like this.

Next year depending on who we are able to draft. If we draft a forward and we are able to acquire McDonagh in a sign and trade with conversations with Tavares that he would sign if we can make this happen.... One step at a time and each step can change depending on circumstance of how they relate to each other.

1. Trade Pleky for a 2nd (at least). Trade others like Benn, Shaw, Hemsky, Schlemko, Alzner if the return is worth it. Shaw or Alzner would have to be moved to create cap space to get 2 big pieces and Shaw would be the guy you can move easily

2. Trade Patch if a team is willing to meet the "futures" return. Lets say Thomas or Vilardi type, 1st round pick, and another piece

3. Have a good draft. Lets say we are able to draft one of Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Tkachuk, Boqvist, Dobson, Kupari, Wahlstrom which is very likely. Then also target other pieces with our multiple top 100 picks. We have a strong potential to reinforce our prospect pool greatly and position ourselves to either fill voids or be in on a trade for a impact player like McDonaugh

4. By this point, we would be able to re-sign Danault to a new deal ($4M max) and also have roughly $20M in cap space to go after Tavares and another piece. Lets say Tavares says if you are able to acquire a piece like Backlund or Stastny, I will sign for 7 years at $12M. Or if you are able to acquire a guy like McDonagh in a sign and trade. Remember, we would have about $7-8M in cap space to work with after Tavares. I believe this is enough to get assets like McDonagh, Backlund, or Stastny.

Option 1 (Tavares and McDonagh and Shaw and Patch gone):
Galchenyuk / Tavares / Gallagher
Lehkonen / Drouin / Scherbak
Hudon / Danault / Byron
Deslauriers / DLR / McCarron
Froese, L Shaw

Mete / Weber
McDonagh / Petry
Alzner / Schlemko
Jerabek, Morrow

Price
Lindgren

Prospects:
- 2018 1st (top 10 pick)
- Thomas or Vilardi (Patch trade)
- 2018 1st or 2019 1st (Patch trade)
- Poehling
- Juulsen
- Brook
- Evans, Bitten, Ikonen, Fleury, Vejdemo, etc
- Other pieces we get with our additional 6 top 100 picks in the 2018 draft
- 2nd round pick (Pleky trade)
- Picks from trading Shaw

Everything looks fine if Tavares sign here.
Remove him from your line-up and this team looks bad, really bad.

With Tavares I would keep A Shaw because he's better than some names you filled on 2nd and 3rd line.