Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

[Kudo Shinichi]

I'd have to imagine Bourque and Johnston are off the table.

Wouldn't mind Roulette and/or Arcuri.

As the main piece for Petry? I hope not.

 

[FF de Mars]

He was overrated when he was in Columbus too. So at the end, he is not overrated. The guy is able to score 20
Goals at 6ft3, being dominant physically vs opponnent. There is no many winger like him into the league. So this is the law of supply and demand

Some old school GM might love his truculence. To be honest it's a treat watching him cut through defenders up to the net creating golden opportunities all by himself with speed and size when he's on his game, I can understand why people like him.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hoffman for Barrie
Anderson+Dvorak+26th OA for 5th OA+JVR
Petry for 18th OA
Offersheet Nicolas Roy for 4.2 million

Draft Wright, Jiricek, Nazar

JVR-Suzuki-Caufield
Drouin-Roy-Dadonov
Pitlick-Wright-Gally
Byron-Evans-Armia

Eddy-Barrie
Romanov-Savard
X-Wideman

 

[MarkovsKnee]

As the main piece for Petry? I hope not.

Not as a main piece, as a Heineman type piece.

 

[MtlSars]

Ok take a step back a bit, calm down. We're not getting another 5th or 12th overall in this draft for likes of Jeff Petry or Josh Anderson.

I'd love to be wrong, but I,m not. I found in my professionnal life it was always a good idea to tamper expectations....

We do have 1st overall and maybe we move up with rest or not...

And if we get other 1st out of trades.....they could very well be in 2023...

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

id rather trade our positive assets for 1st picks in 2023 instead of 2022.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

PREDICT THE RETURN FOR JEFF PETRY

I almost thought to start a new thread, or post in the Petry thread, but was afraid the mods would flip it back here.

So I'm wondering what folks think the return for Jeff Petry will be, if Kent Hughes pulls the trigger this summer.

I personally think he will not be traded for much less than Toffoli fetched. Jeff was scoring at over a 50 point pace once again under MSL. He has value around the league.

I think he goes to LA - the Kings were one of the teams that had reportedly inquired about him last year, there’s the Bergevin connection (and look how Danault has prospered there!) and I think he fits perfectly on their second pair… which really seems to be his niche - an elite second pairing defenseman.

I’d say the Kings would offer their 1st this year, and Brendan Lemieux (a player that Gorton acquired when he was in New York).

The Kings have a plethora of good young prospects already so losing their first this year for an established second pair defenseman isn’t a big price… and I picked Lemieux because he’s an RFA and I want to see the chaos that he would bring. Him vs Tkachuk multiple times a year would help ease the loss of Chiarot who hated both of the Tkachuk brothers equally.

 

[HabzSauce]

I love Romanov but Nemec's IQ is out of this world, I remember the mightly Slafkowsky saying so in an interview. If you had the two players with the best IQ of the draft in Wright and Nemec at such crucial positions as C and D, it would improve the team drastically. You can't compare Nemec to Romanov, they don't even play the same style.

Yeah I want Nemec BADLY.

If we can somehow guarantee he will still be available at #5, I would try my hardest to trade Flyers for that pick somehow.

I would LOVE to get Nemec, but we would need a top 6 pick to realistically get that done. Anderson is our biggest chip, and I could only see Philly being a team that would be interested. I don’t think G/H have a plan to get a pick that high. Based on who they picked for extended interviews.

Some combination of Anderson/Dvorak/CGY 1st + some extra picks could maybe get the job done.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

PREDICT THE RETURN FOR JEFF PETRY

I almost thought to start a new thread, or post in the Petry thread, but was afraid the mods would flip it back here.

So I'm wondering what folks think the return for Jeff Petry will be, if Kent Hughes pulls the trigger this summer.

I personally think he will not be traded for much less than Toffoli fetched. Jeff was scoring at over a 50 point pace once again under MSL. He has value around the league.

To the Sabres for 16th OA, Buffalo have 3 1sts and they are ready to take the next step and not miss the playoffs for a 12th year in a row, Petry can be the vet playing next to one of their kids

 

[26Mats]

Yeah I want Nemec BADLY.

If we can somehow guarantee he will still be available at #5, I would try my hardest to trade Flyers for that pick somehow.


Some combination of Anderson/Dvorak/CGY 1st + some extra picks could maybe get the job done.

When have we seen a trade like that for a top pick?

I don't think Philly wants that package for a top 5 pick.

To the Sabres for 16th OA, Buffalo have 3 1sts and they are ready to take the next step and not miss the playoffs for a 12th year in a row, Petry can be the vet playing next to one of their kids

Would be nice, but I'm not expecting that much.

But a 2nd and a Justin Barron level prospect would be nice.

 

[HabzSauce]

When have we seen a trade like that for a top pick?

I don't think Philly wants that package for a top 5 pick.



Would be nice, but I'm not expecting that much.

But a 2nd and a Justin Barron level prospect would be nice.

Send us JVR for that precious cap space and I think they would consider. Especially if their plan is to skip the rebuild and try and compete.

 

[26Mats]

Send us JVR for that precious cap space and I think they would consider. Especially if their plan is to skip the rebuild and try and compete.

Is there plan to skip the rebuild?

Perhaps we could get something else than the 5th OA pick. That seems like a lot.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

When have we seen a trade like that for a top pick?

I don't think Philly wants that package for a top 5 pick.



Would be nice, but I'm not expecting that much.

But a 2nd and a Justin Barron level prospect would be nice.

I prefer Barron to 16OA in this draft

 

[HabzSauce]

Is there plan to skip the rebuild?

Perhaps we could get something else than the 5th OA pick. That seems like a lot.

I'm not implying we trade all of that for 5th overall. But Anderson/Dvorak/CGY 1st are probably are most attractive trade pieces for the Flyers. And they could use some cap space too by offloading JVR contract - especially if they want to make a "splash" this offseason lmao

 

[26Mats]

I'm not implying we trade all of that for 5th overall. But Anderson/Dvorak/CGY 1st are probably are most attractive trade pieces for the Flyers. And they could use some cap space too by offloading JVR contract - especially if they want to make a "splash" this offseason lmao

I would trade Anderson, Dvorak, 26, and take back JVR for 5OA.

But I don't consider any of the pieces we're offering a splash. So don't think that's what the Flyers are looking for, unfortunately.

 

[MarkyMarkov]

A trade for a high pick, like #5 or #6 for the Habs depends on how good they think the players are on the top-6 of their draft list top-6. If they think there will be a very good player there à la Seider or Raymond, then it would make sense, but it would not be a sure thing.

Getting Philly's #5 should be the priority. Then we can draft Nemec or Jiricek and the defence is set. I wonder if Anderson and #26 gets it done.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I would trade Anderson, Dvorak, 26, and take back JVR for 5OA.

But I don't consider any of the pieces we're offering a splash. So don't think that's what the Flyers are looking for, unfortunately.

Flyers should’ve probably waited until after free agency started to announce hiring Torts, there’s probably quite a few guys not interested in playing for him that might’ve signed, I really can’t see Gaudreau wanting to play for him but I could be wrong. If I’m Vancouver I’d want more than 5OA for Miller but again can’t see JT signing an extension to play for him

Now Josh Anderson loved playing for Torts and vice versa, match made in heaven. Byron would be another guy perfect for Philly. Send them both and we take back JVRs contract.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I would trade Anderson, Dvorak, 26, and take back JVR for 5OA.

But I don't consider any of the pieces we're offering a splash. So don't think that's what the Flyers are looking for, unfortunately.

As much as I love Anderson and think he’s a necessary piece for our small/soft forward group, I’d make that deal.

It fills the Flyers needs up front, getting two pieces that help immediately, while still getting a late 1st and shipping out JVR’s cap.

The Habs would then be able to move up and grab one of the top young defensemen (I prefer Jiricek), and could play JVR until the deadline where they could retain to max out a return, ensuring that they would once again be in the running for 1st overall in 2023, the year of Bedard, and have numerous assets/picks and free cap space to continue building a powerhouse.

 

[Goalfield13]

Flyers: Anderson ($5.5 x5), Petry ($6.25 x3)
Habs: 5OA, JVR ($7 x1), Ristolainen ($5.1 x5)

Habs can flip JVR at the deadline.

 

[Scriptor]

Ok take a step back a bit, calm down. We're not getting another 5th or 12th overall in this draft for likes of Jeff Petry or Josh Anderson.

I'd love to be wrong, but I,m not. I found in my professionnal life it was always a good idea to tamper expectations....

We do have 1st overall and maybe we move up with rest or not...

And if we get other 1st out of trades.....they could very well be in 2023...

I can see how tampering with expectations can be a good thing professionally.

Tempering expectations, however, is an entirely different thing.

 

[morhilane]

Jaarmo offered more $ per beat writer Aaron Portzline right after the trade .. Anderson refused to sign

Anderson wanted maxed terms (7-8 years) and Jarmo's didn't want to give him more than 5 years is what I read.

 

[John B]

PREDICT THE RETURN FOR JEFF PETRY

I almost thought to start a new thread, or post in the Petry thread, but was afraid the mods would flip it back here.

So I'm wondering what folks think the return for Jeff Petry will be, if Kent Hughes pulls the trigger this summer.

I personally think he will not be traded for much less than Toffoli fetched. Jeff was scoring at over a 50 point pace once again under MSL. He has value around the league.

As is - a pair of 2nd rounders at best
With retention or take back a cap dump- 1st rounder 2022 or 2023 (lottery protected)
With retention and take back a cap dump - 1st rounder 2022 or 2023 (lottery protected) and a good prospect.

 

[BLONG7]

Flyers should’ve probably waited until after free agency started to announce hiring Torts, there’s probably quite a few guys not interested in playing for him that might’ve signed, I really can’t see Gaudreau wanting to play for him but I could be wrong. If I’m Vancouver I’d want more than 5OA for Miller but again can’t see JT signing an extension to play for him

Now Josh Anderson loved playing for Torts and vice versa, match made in heaven. Byron would be another guy perfect for Philly. Send them both and we take back JVRs contract.

Torts has a reputation big time...................but I think it's a 50/50 kind of thing. There are guys wanting out of Philly right now, and others who wont go..............but there are some that love Torts...

 

[salbutera]

Anderson wanted maxed terms (7-8 years) and Jarmo's didn't want to give him more than 5 years is what I read.

It was the exact term CBJ offered that MB increased by $250K per year - reported by Portzline

 

[DAChampion]

What are the odds that JVR has value at the trade deadline?