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Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

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Colezuki said:
WHAT IF! The Canadians are scouting Slaf and Nemec not to draft in lieu of Wright, but together with Wright.

Profit + Florida 1st for NJ 1st

Imagine the squeals of glee at the bell centre and from Goldenhands
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That did cross my mind. I just don’t know what kind of package they would put together to make it enticing enough for NJ

McGees said:
We need Bedard a lot more than old men Bergeron or Letang.
Stay the course.
Dump salary when possible.
Sign 1 year UFAs to fill gaps and flip at deadline.
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Even if we don’t land Bedard, at the moment, 2023 top 10 really looks good.
 
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Well if true it is coherent with not spending a 1st at last TDL. It means mgmt does not see this core able to win a cup in the next 3 years without major help (hence the discount).

Regarding Rust no idea how much he asks for but at close to a PPG these past three seasons pretty sure he gets overpaid in FA…

themilosh said:
yeah - Slafkofsky... We get NJ #2 pick for Anderson, CGY 1st, MTL 2nd '22, MTL 2nd '23
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So Anderson + a lot of futures for a future Anderson. No thanks
 
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Malkins dad said he always wanted to be a Hab. Imagine offloading Petry and some deadwood and signing Malkin and Letang. That would be nuts to have two guys like that to mentor young kids coming up and be impactful immediately.
 
If Malkins and Letang becomes UFA (adding Giroux). The UFA market is going to be very entertaining.

I'm betting all of them are going to be pushed as coming to Montreal be the medias, despite Hughes saying they were not going to sign any big UFA this year.

Hopefully, Dallas isn't thinking of going after Letang. I don't want the Petry trade to fail because of that.
 
Sterling Archer said:
Malkins dad said he always wanted to be a Hab. Imagine offloading Petry and some deadwood and signing Malkin and Letang. That would be nuts to have two guys like that to mentor young kids coming up and be impactful immediately.
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except they are trying to be bad....Next summers prize is bigger than his year.
 
morhilane said:
If Malkins and Letang becomes UFA (adding Giroux). The UFA market is going to be very entertaining.

I'm betting all of them are going to be pushed as coming to Montreal be the medias, despite Hughes saying they were not going to sign any big UFA this year.

Hopefully, Dallas isn't thinking of going after Letang. I don't want the Petry trade to fail because of that.
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I would be willing to sacrifice trading Petry to Dallas to have Letang sign there so he can't sign with the Habs. Habs can find a different team to trade Petry to. Habs don't need more overpaid veterans. They need to be smart with any cap space that they make.
 
26Mats said:
I would do this trade for the 2nd overall.

But I doubt NJ would. It's too bad Anderson is our best trade chip outside of our young future core/prospects.
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Well two posts up i was told this trade was a Brutal Overpayment... some people, smh.

Imagine we go to the draft and score Wright & Slaf plus Edm2nd.. (minus Anderson, CGY 1st, MTL 2nd '22, '23)
 
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themilosh said:
Well two posts up i was told this trade was a Brutal Overpayment... some people, smh.

Imagine we go to the draft and score Wright & Slaf plus Edm2nd.. (minus Anderson, CGY 1st, MTL 2nd '22, '23)
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I'm not an expert on the prospects. But a #2 overall pick is gold. So if we had #1 and #2 you hope to get two stars. Whether that's Wright and a winger or Wright and a Dman or Wright and another center. I still go BPA. We'll have plenty of time to address the needs of our future core - it's going to be a little while before they're big time.

I like your thinking of trying to get that #2 from Jersey. I'd use assets to get my hands on any lottery pick or young gem prospect to add to the future core.
 
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Some might not like this but in my book, you HAVE to trade Evans on draft day or before next season. Some GM might like him and it's the perfect timing to cash on him. He will have no use for Montreal going foward, he doesn't fit any of our needs as a 3rd C. He is fast but so soft and fragile we can't risk his value going to 0 and his future is just not with us. When we will be ready to compete, Evans can't be your 3rd C behind Wright and Suzuki, Dvorak fill that role way better.
 
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domiwroze said:
Some might not like this but in my book, you HAVE to trade Evans on draft day or before next season. Some GM might like him and it's the perfect timing to cash on him. He will have no use for Montreal going foward, he doesn't fit any of our needs as a 3rd C. He is fast but so soft and fragile we can't risk his value going to 0 and his future is just not with us. When we will be ready to compete, Evans can't be your 3rd C behind Wright and Suzuki, Dvorak fill that role way better.
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Gaucher will be even better as a third line center.
 
Jack Skellington said:
Why are you guys so horny to waste another 1st round pick on a 3rd line center it's literally our least needed position and they historically are abysmal asset value in the first round. We need actual quality players at almost every position.
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By the late 1st round, a 3rd line player is most likely what you will get. They have <30% chance of making the NHL by that point.
 
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Jack Skellington said:
Why are you guys so horny to waste another 1st round pick on a 3rd line center it's literally our least needed position and they historically are abysmal asset value in the first round. We need actual quality players at almost every position.
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We need a 3rd line center to shut down the other teams 3rd line!!!!

I've been trying to explain constantly that if you have Wright-Suzuki down the middle, the 3rd line should be an offense exploitation group because you would match Wright & Suzuki against the other teams 1-2.
 
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I would absolutely pull the trigger on Anderson + 28ish + 33 + next years second rounder for 2nd overall. I don't think New Jersey does that though. They already have 9 picks this draft.

If we are going to move up, we need to target teams who's cupboards are getting bare in the prospect department and who have few picks in this draft or next.

Toronto - 3 picks this year, 5 next
Edmonton - 4 picks this year
Rangers - 4 picks this year, 5 next
Tampa - 7 picks including 1st rounder...but nothing until 4th round after that.
 
Petry could be dealt to the Devils, they will need a PP QB of sorts.................could be something there with habs and Jersey.
 
BLONG7 said:
Petry could be dealt to the Devils, they will need a PP QB of sorts.................could be something there with habs and Jersey.
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It was the other "rumored" destination for him beside Dallas. Going by what I read around the TDL, the NJ fans won't forgive their management if they do that. They want a "young" guy, not soon to be 35 years old Petry.

I wish we could pry NJ #2 from them with Petry + either the Calgary or #33 pick.
 
morhilane said:
If Malkins and Letang becomes UFA (adding Giroux). The UFA market is going to be very entertaining.

I'm betting all of them are going to be pushed as coming to Montreal be the medias, despite Hughes saying they were not going to sign any big UFA this year.

Hopefully, Dallas isn't thinking of going after Letang. I don't want the Petry trade to fail because of that.
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Well if he wants to come to Montreal, then he isn't available to them. If Letangs ask isn't crazy and basically is at least almost an offset of Petry, I look at it as we then get an asset for Petry
 
yianik said:
Well if he wants to come to Montreal, then he isn't available to them. If Letangs ask isn't crazy and basically is at least almost an offset of Petry, I look at it as we then get an asset for Petry
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I actually don't think we need to replace Petry if he is traded. So no need for Letang.

Savard can be the vet who plays more minutes to insulate the RD kid(s) on the lineup. Resign Wideman too. And yes, that's a terrible idea if you want to win, but the Habs don't want to win too much next season. ;)
 
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morhilane said:
I actually don't think we need to replace Petry if he is traded. So no need for Letang.

Savard can be the vet who plays more minutes to insulate the RD kid(s) on the lineup. Resign Wideman too. And yes, that's a terrible idea if you want to win, but the Habs don't want to win too much next season. ;)
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The Habs need a PP QB next season to maintain and develop the offensive skills of Suzuki, Caulfield, Wright, etc.

If the Habs can accrete assets by trading Dvorak and Petry, and then sign Bergeron/Malkin as and Letang, then I can see the value. Actually, I could see significant value.

But that would also be e quite the level of ninjitsu on Hughes' part, it's not fair to expect that much.
 
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