Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

[Vachon23]

For the 1st time since I fallow the Habs (2004), we have the chance to acquired our #1 Franchise Center that we need and dream so badly.

Why do we have some many trade proposal for the #1 pick ?? WTF is wrong with you guys ??

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

For the 1st time since I fallow the Habs (2004), we have the chance to acquired our #1 Franchise Center that we need and dream so badly.

Why do we have some many trade proposal for the #1 pick ?? WTF is wrong with you guys ??

2 reasons.

1) People want to be the smartest person in the room and go against the grain. I'm fairly confident that if you were to poll all 32 gms, all would pick Wright except for a few that already have deep centre positions and might opt for Slaf, or a d/trade back and take one of them.

2) People are inheritantly against risks. Wright isn't a risk in that he's boom, or bust. His game and everything about him speaks that he will be an NHLer. However, he hasn't separated himself from everyone else. Furthermore, it's like Tavares when he was up to be drafted. Exceptional status, played really, really well, but wasn't head and shoulders above his competition, so everyone started to try and find holes in his game and why he shouldn't go 1st overall. All this time later, I think most would take Hedman, but imagine if Tavares got into a nice situation like that, might have helped his numbers and the views of him.

Wright pretty much missed a full season. This season isn't really his draft season, but rather his draft -1. I'm assuming the Habs draft him and if he isn't impressive, I'd send him back. Now, being sent back as a 1st overall pick might not look so bad now, as Owen Power went to college for his draft +1 season. Hopefully that helps the management do the Wright() thing.

Furthermore, Mitch Marner went back to toy with the league. In my opinion Marner is much more skilled and flashy than Wright and his (Marner) skillset is better at making himself seem like he's too good for the league. He did fine, now he's a top winger in the league. Owen Power is still trending like a stud. Lafreniere, who I said should go back, but didn't is slowly getting his game going.

NHL teams need to realize 1st overall doesn't mean they're ready for the NHL.

Also, I guess this might be point 3, but Wright, if sent back might not have the numbers People are looking for. He might do what Suzuki did and focus less on offense and more on defense, or other aspects of his game.

Though, I'm sure if Wright is sent back and doesn't put up huge numbers, the media here will have a field day because they love that shit, but can't write a decent article. Gotta cling to anything controversial.

In short, people might just be scared to have this potentially franchise altering pick and have it get f***ed up.

 

[BLONG7]

For the 1st time since I fallow the Habs (2004), we have the chance to acquired our #1 Franchise Center that we need and dream so badly.

Why do we have some many trade proposal for the #1 pick ?? WTF is wrong with you guys ??

Let's keep the pick boys!! Don't wanna see a trade for that pick at all.
Pressure to get it right exists, but at least we now have smart people at the wheel.
Still thinking it should be Wright.

 

[John B]

I have a feeling HuGo would like to trade for Zacha…Could a deal around Armia be possible?

I don't think there's much that can be done around Armia after the season he just had. He's pretty much a cap dump at this point. If he bounces back next season, he might regain some value.

 

[John B]

I really hope we can trade for one more chance at Bedard. Right now we have our pick which should be top 10 and Florida's (which I highly doubt they finish bottom 10)

If we could capitalize on a team that is desperate to make the playoffs and trade one of (Drouin, Hoffman, Anderson, Gallagher) for an unprotected pick, we may be on to something.

Ottawa
Islanders
Pittsburgh
Buffalo

Are teams that come to mind when I think they may be willing to gamble.

Unfortunately, I don't think there will be too many teams willing to give up an unprotected 1st in 2023. It would have to be one of the top teams that are likely to go far in the playoffs. That being said, could Petry be an option for Pittsburgh if Letang leaves as a free agent?

 

[John B]

I would like to go get Crouse in the deal for Weber's contract. Would you guys part with Calagry's 1st for him?

I think he would be a good complement to Suzuki and Caufield.

Crouse is likely better than anything the Habs are going to draft with the Calgary pick. Unfortunately, Habs would have to add more.

 

[Supersonic]

No it doesn't. Worrying about moving the contract of a player who had a bad season while playing and being hurt and still having strong underlying numbers and truly unbelievable puck luck is stupid.

If there's a team that is interested in taking him for a late pick or a short term bad contract (like a JVR), then you do it. But odds are his value is not going to be hurt by keeping him for now. Likely the opposite happens if he can actually properly rehab with a normal length offseason.

My apologies, my post came off more negative and immediate than it should of.

I don’t think we should trade Gallagher this season but rather suggesting he is not a core piece moving forward and will need to be traded at some point in the future (next couple of years) to help our cap situation

 

[themilosh]

Would you trade #1 for a late 1st (e.g. #25) and a 1st next year (top 3 protected)?

It would make no sense at all. If we wouldn't do it, why would NJD do it?

Oh i meant we would have to add a player

 

[HuGort]

If blown away I would trade the pick but otherwise keep it.

If Arizona wants it bad enough, and we like Nemec like most on here are saying. I would offer them switch first picks, plus the Weber contract and Romanov for Chychrun? Come out of first 3 picks With Nemec and Chychrun not too many on here be crying.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Getting drunk and puking in a friends kitchen or getting caught shoplifting are stupid teenage antics.

What he did shows a complete lack of morality.

I am all for giving him a chance to redeem/prove himself but someone who does something that stupid will probably get in trouble for something else.

I'm guessing you dont have daughters.

Oh please. He did something dumb as a teenager, it might shock you, but there are many teenage boys doing the same thing. I’m not condoning it, but that’s the reality we live in. He’s paid his dues and this is no indication that he’ll ever be in trouble again. None at all, what a ridiculous statement.

 

[bcv]

Old enough to remember Beliveau's final years.

If that's what they do nowadays , I am happy I have dogs instead of kids.

Can’t blame you. I wholeheartedly agree with you.

 

[bcv]

Crouse is likely better than anything the Habs are going to draft with the Calgary pick. Unfortunately, Habs would have to add more.

He’s a 30 pts grinder, that’s pretty much the worst case scenario for a first rounder.

 

[DAChampion]

Oh please. He did something dumb as a teenager, it might shock you, but there are many teenage boys doing the same thing. I’m not condoning it, but that’s the reality we live in. He’s paid his dues and this is no indication that he’ll ever be in trouble again. None at all, what a ridiculous statement.

People wanting vigilante justice beyond the appropriate reprimands that Mailloux has in fact already experienced is a symptom of our virtue signalling cancel / Twitter culture, and beyond that of cultural and civilizational decline in general.

Their arguments are quite dim and immoral, but, there's no stopping this train.

By the way you're likely wasting time telling people that what he did is not uncommon, in practice, many of the loudest moralizers are themselves guilty of the same or worse behavior. The veneer of righteousness is a way to them to cope.

 

[FF de Mars]

If blown away I would trade the pick but otherwise keep it.

If Arizona wants it bad enough, and we like Nemec like most on here are saying. I would offer them switch first picks, plus the Weber contract and Romanov for Chychrun? Come out of first 3 picks With Nemec and Chychrun not too many on here be crying.

I'd rather keep the 1OV, but in that scenario, would it be possible to ship Gallagher to AZ instead, in exchange of swapping our picks? Might be bad value, maybe you could add another draft pick to that offer. Having Gallagher off the books is a dream!

 

[Justin11]

For the 1st time since I fallow the Habs (2004), we have the chance to acquired our #1 Franchise Center that we need and dream so badly.

Why do we have some many trade proposal for the #1 pick ?? WTF is wrong with you guys ??

I guess people can propose whatever they want, after all it's a hockey board for the fans.

The reality is that HuGo will not be trading the pick and Habs will be selecting 1st OA at the Bell Centre, no less.

 

[HuGort]

I'd rather keep the 1OV, but in that scenario, would it be possible to ship Gallagher to AZ instead, in exchange of swapping our picks? Might be bad value, maybe you could add another draft pick to that offer. Having Gallagher off the books is a dream!

I'm keeping Gallagher. He bleeds the CH

 

[Captain Mountain]

I'd rather keep the 1OV, but in that scenario, would it be possible to ship Gallagher to AZ instead, in exchange of swapping our picks? Might be bad value, maybe you could add another draft pick to that offer. Having Gallagher off the books is a dream!

Without rehashing why selling Gallagher low now is porbably a bad idea, the focus for Montreal is building a team core.

As it stands right now, you can argue that no team in the league has fewer contender building blocks in the NHL than Montreal. The focus has to be on getting the best assets to build a core. Moving cap can be annoying when you need it, but better than moving cap and then just being a team with nothing.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

For the 1st time since I fallow the Habs (2004), we have the chance to acquired our #1 Franchise Center that we need and dream so badly.

Why do we have some many trade proposal for the #1 pick ?? WTF is wrong with you guys ??

Dont let the general forums see that comment now that we have the 1st overall Wright sucks and will be nothing more then a 2nd line center

The hate hes getting now is ridiculous

 

[Ezpz]

Dont let the general forums see that comment now that we have the 1st overall Wright sucks and will be nothing more then a 2nd line center

The hate hes getting now is ridiculous

There were a few crapping on Wright for months, but it was more of a 10-90 split. As soon as the Habs finished last it became 40-60 and after the Habs won the lottery it became 90-10.

 

[Heffyhoof]

For the 1st time since I fallow the Habs (2004), we have the chance to acquired our #1 Franchise Center that we need and dream so badly.

Why do we have some many trade proposal for the #1 pick ?? WTF is wrong with you guys ??

Because he likely isn't a franchise center and so some people are worried? He might even end up as the 2C behind Suzuki, which is still a really good centre line but kind of a bleh way for Montreal's first 1st overall pick in forever to end up.

That, and the fact that it's a long offseason for Habs fans so there's nothing to do but throw out whacky ideas as we wait.

 

[Vachon23]

Because he likely isn't a franchise center and so some people are worried? He might even end up as the 2C behind Suzuki, which is still a really good centre line but kind of a bleh way for Montreal's first 1st overall pick in forever to end up.

That, and the fact that it's a long offseason for Habs fans so there's nothing to do but throw out whacky ideas as we wait.

He’s still the prospect with the most potential we will draft since a LONG time. Trust our management to develop him in the franchise Center he can be

 

[FF de Mars]

Because he likely isn't a franchise center and so some people are worried? He might even end up as the 2C behind Suzuki, which is still a really good centre line but kind of a bleh way for Montreal's first 1st overall pick in forever to end up.

That, and the fact that it's a long offseason for Habs fans so there's nothing to do but throw out whacky ideas as we wait.

We don't know that, might as well be the one. You're right that it's a long summer, that's why it gets rehashed so much.

Without rehashing why selling Gallagher low now is porbably a bad idea, the focus for Montreal is building a team core.

As it stands right now, you can argue that no team in the league has fewer contender building blocks in the NHL than Montreal. The focus has to be on getting the best assets to build a core. Moving cap can be annoying when you need it, but better than moving cap and then just being a team with nothing.

You can make the case that Gallagher's value isn't going up. I get your point though, you think Hugo might have an easier sell after a good season out of him. You're betting on Gallagher to succeed, I think it's wise. But you forget that Gallagher was equally bad during the previous two playoffs. If you trade him now maybe the other team thinks they're getting a better Gallagher than what you're selling and accepts to swallows that long contract for fewer assets than they would next year.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Because he likely isn't a franchise center and so some people are worried? He might even end up as the 2C behind Suzuki, which is still a really good centre line but kind of a bleh way for Montreal's first 1st overall pick in forever to end up.

That, and the fact that it's a long offseason for Habs fans so there's nothing to do but throw out whacky ideas as we wait.

How would you feel if he ends up Suzuki or better if you traded the pick? If you bypass on Wright, you are not taking BPA. Simple as that. BPA don't exist years later. It exist now heading towards the draft.

Worse than Suzuki? That's high negative energy level being applied to Wright where it's ignored with others.

We are not trading this pick and we are drafting Wright. Habs fans just like to talk hockey and ponder things that likely won't happen.

We don't know that, might as well be the one. You're right that it's a long summer, that's why it gets rehashed so much.

Exactly, There is no evidence to support he "likely" won't be a very good center. Better word to use is Maybe, not Likely

 

[KevSkillz4]

What cost Dubois??

Imagine a scenario of exchange for Dubois and draft Slafkovsky.

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield.
Drouin - Dubois - Anderson.

 

[Justin11]

What cost Dubois??

Imagine a scenario of exchange for Dubois and draft Slafkovsky.

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield.
Drouin - Dubois - Anderson.

To properly start the rebuild, you draft a C in Wright. You don't start a rebuild by giving up assets to trade for Dubois.