Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

[Clearedwaivers]

Neither do I, I'm just going on what I've read and watched. Wright's game seems translatable, the question is how dominant he might be without a standout physical skill.

I haven’t seen him a lot either. But from what I understand, he skates really well and has elite shooting skills, vision, and IQ. I personally believe he’s being a bit under rated.

 

[1909]

I know, that's why I'd trade both for him.. Evans and Poehling have only 2.8M cap hit while I think Roy alone will be close to 4M so maybe Vegas might make swap if they feel like Poehling has upside and Evans' post St.Louis production is for real.

Poehling is not a very interesting prospect.

 

[Sterling Archer]

...who actually passes the puck, then??...

The other 3 guys, naturally. Lol.

 

[BigHabs]

How would you guys feel about a swap of Hoffman for Barrie? Assuming Petry is dealt.

Most likely other pieces involved. But seems like he's not favored in Edmonton. Hoffman similar here. I just feel Hoffman playing with top 6 in Edmonton would get him involved and going there. I think Barrie would be good under St.Louis in Montreal the style of play. Plus he could be paired with a guy like Edmundson reliable guy.

Same salary and term. I just know not one for one. Just seems like it could be a fit for both sides.

 

[Clearedwaivers]

They just never happen during the finals. The NHL doesn't like it as they want the focus to be entirely on the cup finals.

Teams are also still evaluating everything and whether we like it or not, who wins the cup does influence decision making as far as what did they have that we didn't, etc.

You've got the NHL draft coming up in a couple weeks where they will all be in the same location, it's more likely to increase the pace of discussions and decisions.

I can't think of one major trade that happened during a cup final or a play-offs run.

I agree. That’s been the norm. I’d expect either something to happen at the draft, or just after. Think Subban/Weber.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

How would you guys feel about a swap of Hoffman for Barrie? Assuming Petry is dealt.

Most likely other pieces involved. But seems like he's not favored in Edmonton. Hoffman similar here. I just feel Hoffman playing with top 6 in Edmonton would get him involved and going there. I think Barrie would be good under St.Louis in Montreal the style of play. Plus he could be paired with a guy like Edmundson reliable guy.

Same salary and term. I just know not one for one. Just seems like it could be a fit for both sides.

...honestly, as someone who isn't a Barrie fan at all, that might actually work...and help us Discard for Bedard at the same time...con Holland into taking Armia for Pool Party as well...

 

[Captain Mountain]

How would you guys feel about a swap of Hoffman for Barrie? Assuming Petry is dealt.

Most likely other pieces involved. But seems like he's not favored in Edmonton. Hoffman similar here. I just feel Hoffman playing with top 6 in Edmonton would get him involved and going there. I think Barrie would be good under St.Louis in Montreal the style of play. Plus he could be paired with a guy like Edmundson reliable guy.

Same salary and term. I just know not one for one. Just seems like it could be a fit for both sides.

I like it, doubt Edmonton does it though.

I think Barrie is overrated, but the reason Edmonton wants to move him is because they need cap space and Bouchard has taken his spot. A Hoffman for Barrie trade doesn't help them in any way.

 

[Vachon23]

How would you guys feel about a swap of Hoffman for Barrie? Assuming Petry is dealt.

Most likely other pieces involved. But seems like he's not favored in Edmonton. Hoffman similar here. I just feel Hoffman playing with top 6 in Edmonton would get him involved and going there. I think Barrie would be good under St.Louis in Montreal the style of play. Plus he could be paired with a guy like Edmundson reliable guy.

Same salary and term. I just know not one for one. Just seems like it could be a fit for both sides.

deal for me and I'm not a Barrie fan

 

[Goalfield13]

Poehling is not a very interesting prospect.

He’s pretty meh as a C. I hope they try him at LW this year. If Anderson is indeed traded, Poehling’s skills could compliment Suzuki and Caufield nicely. Worth a shot.

 

[1909]

He’s pretty meh as a C. I hope they try him at LW this year. If Anderson is indeed traded, Poehling’s skills could compliment Suzuki and Caufield nicely. Worth a shot.

He is not 1st line material either.

 

[Omar]

Get a young one. They’ll need a couple years to get settled. Lundkvist won’t be the difference between lottery pick or not.

Which is fine, but we don’t “need” one as he suggested. We need one long term or course but it’s not critical at this moment.

 

[Kent Nilsson]

He’s pretty meh as a C. I hope they try him at LW this year. If Anderson is indeed traded, Poehling’s skills could compliment Suzuki and Caufield nicely. Worth a shot.

What are those skills you speak of ?

 

[Draft]

Which is fine, but we don’t “need” one as he suggested. We need one long term or course but it’s not critical at this moment.

How long do you think a defenceman takes to develop? Typically a year or more delayed from your average forward. Therefore, do it now to coincide with the young core and newly drafted players. Getting an NHL ready defence prospect today likely sets you up just in time to have an impact player in 2-3 years. So yeah, it is a critical need considering how weak our prospect pool is at RD.

 

[Goalfield13]

What are those skills you speak of ?

He has a decent shot and vision. Just enough skill to compliment top 6 players. His speed, size and defensive IQ are his main assets. People seem pretty down on him….

 

[Habricot]

I'm aware of Primeau's development. Are you going to take a stance that he is going to be a NHL starter quality? And if he is a starter, is he a top 16 goalie or a bottom 16? I like him but I stand firm. He may not have as high as the value he has today.

I'm also aware of Romanov's development. I like him and Primeau just as much as you do.

There are no guarantees but there is probability and Slaf stands to be better than both. This is not a deep top 10 but it's not horrible either. Slaf is a type I would try to trade for depending on what it takes to get him. Risky? Not as much risk as you are implying.

See we agree on few things Where we mostly disagree is on Slaf. Say he is turns out to be a Joel Armia.. would you give both Romanov and Primeau for him? Then say is is a Nichushkin which took him 9 years to get where he is now.. would you do that same trade. We could add many other players.. Kakko, etc ..

Now if you know (you have the certainty) that he will be just as good as Tkachuk in his first year then perhaps yes you may want to pull the trigger thinking that Ghule might be just as good if not better the Romanov. But there is no such certainty with Slaf and any other guy in this draft. In french we have an expression that says "Un tien vaux mieux que 2 tu l'auras" which means having a real piece in your hands is better then a much better piece you think could fall in your hands.

At Romanov's age he could very well turn into a good number 2D or Excellent number 3 and that to me is more valuable then all these guys mentioned above with the exception of Tkachuk.

 

[Runner77]

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[BigDaddyLurch]

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...don't delete, come back...

 

[Habfan10]

How would you guys feel about a swap of Hoffman for Barrie? Assuming Petry is dealt.

Most likely other pieces involved. But seems like he's not favored in Edmonton. Hoffman similar here. I just feel Hoffman playing with top 6 in Edmonton would get him involved and going there. I think Barrie would be good under St.Louis in Montreal the style of play. Plus he could be paired with a guy like Edmundson reliable guy.

Same salary and term. I just know not one for one. Just seems like it could be a fit for both sides.

Not a fan for two reasons. Wideman does the role of Barrie at a fraction of the salary and secondly I want more cap flexibility once we trade Hoffman. Rather take back a bigger salary that will expire after next season.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Cap space at the deadline can be huge.

 

[Sorinth]

It hampens us from taking a cap dump in another trade. A few years ago the Leafs had to pay a 1st to get rid of the final year of Marleau’s contract, Vegas was in a very similar situation with Dadonov.

They weren't anywhere close to being that desperate. Vegas had easy options not least of which was buyout Dadonov and save 4m this year.

 

[Runner77]

...don't delete, come back...

My goose is cooked.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

My goose is cooked.

I fart in your general direction!

Pls stay Runner man, the board is better with you here. Just my 0.02$

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

My goose is cooked.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I fart in your general direction!

Pls stay Runner man, the board is better with you here. Just my 0.02$

In this house we appreciate Runner.

 

[Andrei79]

As it's been pointed out, Anderson was younger, had 27 goal a year potential he hasn't matched. Domi's value was higher when they traded for him too, not far removed from 13thOV, amassed an impressive 70+ points the season before, other team's fans on the main board critisized heavily the trade and screamed at the risky contract. The comtract is still risky but I get your point that he proved it wasn't a fluke.

Yeah, this isn't accurate at all. Domi had just been put on the fourth line in the playoffs and his 70 point season looked like a fluke, which it was. He didn't look like a center anymore, he looked like the winger he was drafted as. He was 5 seasons removed from 13th OA (is that something that's even significant ? We're not talking about a top 3 pick).

Anderson was coming off a serious injury that left him looking like a shadow of himself. There were serious worries he wouldn't bounce back. But, he did. He paced for a 27 goal season the first year here and managed a good pace this year despite being on the worst team in the league. His value is higher now.