Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 61

[jaffy27]

Tippet blasting Koskinen live. Sad Price is far from ready…

Who said Price is far from ready??

 

[Sterling Archer]

Who said Price is far from ready??

Kypreos said he might be and could shut it down for the season.

 

[HabsForHire]

Coyotes' pricing on Chychrun is Eichel level according to LeBrun: Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd.

I'd stay away from that.

No crap, last thing we need to do is trade away 1st's and prospects. Even if we are chychrun is becoming a bit overrated

 

[jaffy27]

Stay away from Holloway. He’s had two wrist surgeries already and played 21 games in the last two years. Has stunted develop written all over him.

They’re saying he made a full recovery but you make a good point.

I’d have my doctors all over it before pulling the trigger on that one.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Tippet blasting Koskinen live. Sad Price is far from ready…

Everyone is looking at Edmonton and thinks automatically Price.

I'm looking at Edmonton and thinking Allen. He's ready to play. He's been having a good season. Despite going 5-15-2 this year, his SV% is still above .900.

And I think Edmonton may be desperate enough to want a good goalie that they will give up a little more than most teams are usually willing to give to acquire one.

 

[Sterling Archer]

They’re saying he made a full recovery but you make a good point.

I’d have my doctors all over it before pulling the trigger on that one.

Price, Weber, Drouin, Gally, Brooks, Juulsen etc. They always have a good recovery but always not back to 100%. Especially for a young player missing all that time developing, it definitely hurts. I’d target Bourgault personally.

 

[Habs Halifax]

There is no "best strategy" since it involves so many moving parts.

But people want to focus on specific aspects and ignore all others (I.e. drafting high).

The strategy matters less to me, since again, it involves so many aspects of team building (scouting, drafting, development, signings, trades, coaching, etc). I'm more interested in the execution of it.


Of course you can, it's not your money lol

I don't think an owner would go for this, nor would a GM actually present a plan where they're paying half of 3 players salaries to play on other teams, when those players are all perfectly capable.

But fair enough.


I can stand the pain of loosing too, I just don't think it needs to be an indefinite sentence.

A proper rebuild strategy includes moveable parts and altercations depending on what you can and can't do. This is not an official exact plan that is forced, it's a platform strategy framework.

 

[vokiel]

Everyone is looking at Edmonton and thinks automatically Price.

I'm looking at Edmonton and thinking Allen. He's ready to play. He's been having a good season. Despite going 5-15-2 this year, his SV% is still above .900.

And I think Edmonton may be desperate enough to want a good goalie that they will give up a little more than most teams are usually willing to give to acquire one.

I'm looking at Edmonton and immediately think it's great we have nothing to trade with them.

 

[Benstheman]

Everyone is looking at Edmonton and thinks automatically Price.

I'm looking at Edmonton and thinking Allen. He's ready to play. He's been having a good season. Despite going 5-15-2 this year, his SV% is still above .900.

And I think Edmonton may be desperate enough to want a good goalie that they will give up a little more than most teams are usually willing to give to acquire one.

I don’t see Allen taking the Oilers to the contender list of teams. They can try, for relatively cheap and without busting their cap situation but they are doing that since I can’t even remember. They need the best disponible guy and they need him right now. If they don’t win, or at least compete hard for the cup in the next 2-3 years, they won’t be able to retain Draisitl and and maybe even McDavid.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Kypreos said he might be and could shut it down for the season.

Did he have a source? Or was it Kypreos giving his opinion on what he thinks will happen?

 

[JuicyHam]

Allen may not make the Oilers a great team but he's is without a doubt the far better option than what they're throwing out there right now. Their defenders certainly don't help but they've had some really horrifying goaltending

Who else is available at Allen's quality or better that won't cost an arm and a leg? Getting an unprotected first from the Oilers for Chiarot and/or Allen is the dream. Hope they get desperate enough and hope they keep losing

 

[Habs Halifax]

Kypreos said he might be and could shut it down for the season.

I would not value Kypreos's report on that. Did Kypreos indicate where he got that from? Have we heard of any set backs with Price other than they are taking their time which to me is the right plan.

However, it might best to just rest Price. Prolongs his career IMO. This might be in play and it would be to keep Price out of our mess of a season. Or he is having problems with his knee still. I have not heard of any major set backs. Have you?

 

[417]

I don’t see Allen taking the Oilers to the contender list of teams. They can try, for relatively cheap and without busting their cap situation but they are doing that since I can’t even remember. They need the best disponible guy and they need him right now. If they don’t win, or at least compete hard for the cup in the next 2-3 years, they won’t be able to retain Draisitl and and maybe even McDavid.

They're not going to get Vasilevski obviously...best available guy, that list is short and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone better than Jake Allen right now. Especially when you consider salary/term.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Did he have a source? Or was it Kypreos giving his opinion on what he thinks will happen?

You beat me to it. Exactly what I was thinking as well. Where is he getting this info from or is it just a hunch?

 

[417]

I would not value Kypreos's report on that. Did Kypreos indicate where he got that from? Have we heard of any set backs with Price other than they are taking their time which to me is the right plan.

However, it might best to just rest Price. Prolongs his career IMO. This might be in play and it would be to keep Price out of our mess of a season. Or he is having problems with his knee still. I have not heard of any major set backs. Have you?

Just makes sense...at this point, he's at minimum 1 month away from being able to practice, then figure another few weeks for conditioning.

Given how the season has gone, it's gonna be time to call it soon.

You don't need a source to read the tea leaves.

 

[EXPOS123]

Kypreos said he might be and could shut it down for the season.

What exactly is the issue with Price? I get the mental thing, but that was taken care of months ago. I understand that he needed time to get back in physical shape, but it's been two months already.

 

[Habs Halifax]

They're not going to get Vasilevski obviously...best available guy, that list is short and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone better than Jake Allen right now. Especially when you consider salary/term.

It's a good point there. Question is are the Oilers going to be patient and wait for the next Anderson to be available or do they think Allen is good enough to take them on a run. I have my doubts they dig into futures for Allen... even if he is better than what they have and on a good AAV.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Just makes sense...at this point, he's at minimum 1 month away from being able to practice, then figure another few weeks for conditioning.

Given how the season has gone, it's gonna be time to call it soon.

You don't need a source to read the tea leaves.

A least 1 month away? Your guess or news I'm not aware of?

 

[417]

It's a good point there. Question is are the Oilers going to be patient and wait for the next Anderson to be available or do they think Allen is good enough to take them on a run. I have my doubts they dig into futures for Allen... even if he is better than what they have and on a good AAV.

If things persist...they might not have a choice.

 

[417]

A least 1 month away? Your guess or news I'm not aware of?

Just a hunch, but I called that way back in training camp that in best case scenario, we weren't going to see him before February.

So far, my hunch was right.

We're already January 5th, he had a consultation with the doctor a few days ago I read...let's just say best case scenario, he got the OK to ramp up activities.

The Habs are off until next week...he's not going to play between now and the end of January.

So February at the absolute earliest and at that point...what is the point? He's not going to play a "regular" schedule for the rest of this year, so what would be the point to get 8-10 games in?

 

[Habs Halifax]

If things persist...they might not have a choice.

Their team D has improved but it's still not that good. I think they are thinking bigger than Allen cause they need it, and if so, they will have to be patient within the Fan/Media barrage of "go get someone"

 

[417]

Their team D has improved but it's still not that good. I think they are thinking bigger than Allen cause they need it, and if so, they will have to be patient within the Fan/Media barrage of "go get someone"

Do they?

They don't need the reincarnation of Dominik Hasek...just someone consistent & affordable.

If they're thinking bigger...who is available that fits the bill?

What team is looking to trade their #1 established goalie?

There's a very short list of goalies the Edmonton Oilers could realistically target.

This isn't like trying to acquire a forward...there's a positional scarcity simply due to the position. There are only 31 other starting goaltenders...knock that list down in half because no team in a playoff position is trading you their starter.

Look at the non-playoff teams and their goalie situations...there really aren't much better options than Allen.

 

[Adam Michaels]

What exactly is the issue with Price? I get the mental thing, but that was taken care of months ago. I understand that he needed time to get back in physical shape, but it's been two months already.

He had knee surgery in the off-season.

And when he entered the Players Assistance Program, he wasn't training or doing physical therapy for his knee. So when he returned from the Program, he had to start his therapy and recovery.

 

[Goalfield13]

If Price calls it a season, that's a lot of cap off the books for this year we can use to absorb in trades for more value. Short term cap, but still useful.

 

[TomKosto]

Allen make sense for the Oilers. They are talking to Dallas for Khudobin, so i can see them going after Allen as well.