Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 61

[Sterling Archer]

Suzuki and Wright would be redundant if both develop into two-way elite center. You would lose some of their quality by converting them to winger.

Like a previous poster said, trading one of those assets for an elite young defenseman would be best for us long term. Wright for Heiskanen/Quinn Hughes would get me thinking. We don't have in our prospect pool that potential #1 two-way defenseman, top 10 d-man in the league often needed to win cups.

Having two top 2 centres between 2nd and 3rd line would not be redundant. It’s how you win cups through strength down the middle. Imagine either as a 3rd liner playing against other teams 3rd lines in the playoffs. It’s how you win series. Shutting down top lines and having enough depth to score against weaker matchups. And a stud D but that another conversation.

 

[Kwikwi]

If we add Wright and Bedard i would trade Suzuki for a top dman Nick would be a waste on the third line Poehling could get the job done

Both will be wingers

 

[Beer and Chips]

 

[Runner77]

I'm a big proponent of the draft wheel concept where your draft picks are essentially locked in and known ahead of time. With 32 teams you essentially get a top-5 pick every six and a half years. Doesn't stop teams from being bad but there's no cheering to lose since wins/losses don't matter.

With knowing the draft pick ahead of time you can actually plan better and build your supporting cast so that when you do get that top pick they are better surrounded and will likely do a better job of stopping you from sucking.

That’s exactly where I was going. The wheel can always be adjusted when a new team enters the league. Also, teams would still be able to transact draft picks.

I’m so tired of this mass hysteria premised on hoping for losses and making these rhyming catch phrases about prospects that are not likely to be had.

 

[Gravity]

Both will be wingers

Wright will not be an winger. He's a 200ft C. You'd also want to harness Bedard's speed to aid transitions. I think both will be C's in the NHL.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Both will be wingers

you obviously dont know nothing about Wright,Bedard its possible but i dont think so

 

[Milhouse40]

delete

 

[Kwikwi]

you obviously dont know nothing about Wright,Bedard its possible but i dont think so

I know nothing for sure.
Im just quoting what ive heard from junior panel, Marc-Andre Dumont, which they believe he could end up RW.

Wright will not be an winger. He's a 200ft C. You'd also want to harness Bedard's speed to aid transitions. I think both will be C's in the NHL.

...and the fact that he is not a 200 foot player yet from various scouts just to quote Bob

While Wright’s game without the puck is still a work in progress, he has already demonstrated a strong desire to play the complete 200-foot game, like the player he models himself after — Pittsburgh Penguins superstar Sidney Crosby.

or other

He is a brilliant player, so he is always in the proper position to provide support, but Shane is rarely the player actively engaging in defensive actions and dispossessing the puck carrier. At times, it appears that Wright is simply patrolling the defensive zone waiting for a loose puck without an assignment in mind. He is perpetually providing support to the defensively engaged teammate, but his defensive actions tend to be limited. The bright side here is that as he is always in proper positioning, paying more attention to being more engaged defensively should be an easy lesson.

The expectation for Wright (or any prospect for that matter) should not be to save the franchise or to be a generational talent, as he will most likely disappoint. A reasonable projection for Wright would be in the range of a low-end 1st line to a high-end 2nd line center, which to some may sound pessimistic in the context of 1st overall.

I know nothing but read a lot left and right. theres a lot of contradiction. Some say hes a smooth skater, the others will say he needs to work on it.

If Savoie was the one at 6'1", he would be 1st overall

 

[Adam Michaels]

So that is a trade proposal for who?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Friedman in his 32 Thoughts wonders if St. Louis could be a team interested in Chiarot. He doesn't say that he has any info, just him wondering, saying they're a team that is looking to go all in this year.

We heard the Panthers are interested in him. And I read somewhere that the Flames are, as well. I imagine the Oilers might snoop around.

One thing for sure, there will be enough suitors for the Habs to leverage in a way to get a return.

Would you guys prefer that we get a 1st round pick in return? If we end up getting one of the other team's top prospects, are you good with a 2nd?

 

[BozoTheClown]

Friedman in his 32 Thoughts wonders if St. Louis could be a team interested in Chiarot. He doesn't say that he has any info, just him wondering, saying they're a team that is looking to go all in this year.

We heard the Panthers are interested in him. And I read somewhere that the Flames are, as well. I imagine the Oilers might snoop around.

One thing for sure, there will be enough suitors for the Habs to leverage in a way to get a return.

Would you guys prefer that we get a 1st round pick in return? If we end up getting one of the other team's top prospects, are you good with a 2nd?

What prospects do you have in mind?
You want someone NHL ready?

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Friedman in his 32 Thoughts wonders if St. Louis could be a team interested in Chiarot. He doesn't say that he has any info, just him wondering, saying they're a team that is looking to go all in this year.

We heard the Panthers are interested in him. And I read somewhere that the Flames are, as well. I imagine the Oilers might snoop around.

One thing for sure, there will be enough suitors for the Habs to leverage in a way to get a return.

Would you guys prefer that we get a 1st round pick in return? If we end up getting one of the other team's top prospects, are you good with a 2nd?

Personally i say prospect depending on who his offered

 

[Adam Michaels]

What prospects do you have in mind?
You want someone NHL ready?

I don't have a list. But it could be someone in Junior or NCAA but is not far from turning pro. Or it could be someone in the AHL who is in their first or second year pro and is on the cusp of playing in the NHL.

I could go for a prospect like Suzuki when Habs acquired him in the Max trade. Suzuki was still in Junior, but we all knew he wasn't far from being NHL-ready.

If I will list an example, seeing as I brought up St. Louis, if Habs can get a Jake Neighbors in the deal, then I don't need the 1st round pick. I could go for a 2nd round pick if Habs get Neighbors.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Only tank-needy fans are happy about how the season has gone one...frankly, I'd be disappointed if he wasn't agitated.

Personally, I have not seen the Habs do a full rebuild in my entire time as a Habs fan. If we do decide to rip it apart and rebuild, I prefer the best strategy possibly to get that contender after we exit the rebuild.

Trading Price, Gallagher, and Petry with up to 50% retention for 3-5 years returns solid futures that gets added on top of our own pool and picks to come. You don't value this but I do.... if we are to rebuild.

I can stand the pain of loosing if it's the right strategy

 

[Habs Halifax]

Or if Vasi had regular non inflated hulk sized pads, we will never know.

 

[neil2005]

Either Neighbors or Scott Perunivich. I would even do 1 for 1 for Chariot for either of these prospects

I don't have a list. But it could be someone in Junior or NCAA but is not far from turning pro. Or it could be someone in the AHL who is in their first or second year pro and is on the cusp of playing in the NHL.

I could go for a prospect like Suzuki when Habs acquired him in the Max trade. Suzuki was still in Junior, but we all knew he wasn't far from being NHL-ready.

If I will list an example, seeing as I brought up St. Louis, if Habs can get a Jake Neighbors in the deal, then I don't need the 1st round pick. I could go for a 2nd round pick if Habs get Neighbors.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Both will be wingers

Didn't Wright play wing for Canada in the 2nd game at the WJC? Coach trying to get him going offensively with with less 200' responsibility. This is not to say he is winger in the NHL but it's possible.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Personally i say prospect depending on who his offered

I think it's going to be 2 pieces. A 1st and B prospect or a very solid Prospect (fringe Grade A) and 2nd rounder. However, I think the sign/trade will be attempted by a few GM's cause they feel Chiarot is a solution past this season and if they are going to dig deep in futures, they rather get him with term (maybe another 3 or 4 years).

In terms of prospect targets, go after the ones not turned pro yet (like Suzuki). Suzuki was behind Glass on the Knights prospect pool and was considered a C/RW asset at that time. I would say Suzuki was a B+ or fringe Grade A when we acquired him. It's what he did in his age 19 season that turned him into a Grade A.

 

[417]

Personally, I have not seen the Habs do a full rebuild in my entire time as a Habs fan. If we do decide to rip it apart and rebuild, I prefer the best strategy possibly to get that contender after we exit the rebuild.

There is no "best strategy" since it involves so many moving parts.

But people want to focus on specific aspects and ignore all others (I.e. drafting high).

The strategy matters less to me, since again, it involves so many aspects of team building (scouting, drafting, development, signings, trades, coaching, etc). I'm more interested in the execution of it.

Trading Price, Gallagher, and Petry with up to 50% retention for 3-5 years returns solid futures that gets added on top of our own pool and picks to come. You don't value this but I do.... if we are to rebuild.

Of course you can, it's not your money lol

I don't think an owner would go for this, nor would a GM actually present a plan where they're paying half of 3 players salaries to play on other teams, when those players are all perfectly capable.

But fair enough.

I can stand the pain of loosing if it's the right strategy

I can stand the pain of loosing too, I just don't think it needs to be an indefinite sentence.

 

[vokiel]

Coyotes' pricing on Chychrun is Eichel level according to LeBrun: Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd.

I'd stay away from that.

 

[jaffy27]

Id settle for Wright and Michkov

Or Jiricek and Bedard…..trade whatever to Oilers for Holloway, trade whatever to Rangers for Schneider…..f*** I’d be a good GM lol

 

[Kwikwi]

Tippet blasting Koskinen live. Sad Price is far from ready…

 

[HuGort]

Friedman in his 32 Thoughts wonders if St. Louis could be a team interested in Chiarot. He doesn't say that he has any info, just him wondering, saying they're a team that is looking to go all in this year.

We heard the Panthers are interested in him. And I read somewhere that the Flames are, as well. I imagine the Oilers might snoop around.

One thing for sure, there will be enough suitors for the Habs to leverage in a way to get a return.

Would you guys prefer that we get a 1st round pick in return? If we end up getting one of the other team's top prospects, are you good with a 2nd?

According to the prospect. I am fan of Bourque. If Dallas would trade him for Chiarot, I would probably do it straight up. If we retain? A 3 Rd round pick as throw in

 

[NotProkofievian]

Coyotes' pricing on Chychrun is Eichel level according to LeBrun: Tuch, Krebs, 1st, 2nd.

I'd stay away from that.

It's a no from me dawg.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Or Jiricek and Bedard…..trade whatever to Oilers for Holloway, trade whatever to Rangers for Schneider…..f*** I’d be a good GM lol

Stay away from Holloway. He’s had two wrist surgeries already and played 21 games in the last two years. Has stunted develop written all over him.