Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 61

[Runner77]

417 does research !

And multiple quote, detailed answers. I don't know why he's not writing a book.

 

[Runner77]

Why don't you try posting that on the Edmonton board?

 

[Big Empty]

Dvorak to Edmonton makes sense. They need 3C help. I’d move him for what we gave up (1st + ‘24 2nd).

Chiarot to Florida makes sense. I’d move him for a ‘23 1st or Samoskevich.

 

[Big Empty]

It’s an alright trade. Probably a bit in Edmonton’s favour even.

Chiarot is worth a 1st. That’s been widely reported.

Allen is worth a 2nd+ and Lavoie has been underwhelming. Lavoie has 9 points in 22 games in the AHL. Allen is more valuable than Lavoie in my opinion.

On top of that, we take on Koskinen. Addition by subtraction for the Edmonton. They get a massive upgrade in goal.

I don’t frequent on the Oilers boards but I’d have to imagine they’d jump at that deal looking at missing the playoffs in year 7 of the McDavid era. It would be embarrassing for their organization.

 

[Runner77]

It’s an alright trade. Probably a bit in Edmonton’s favour even.

Chiarot is worth a 1st. That’s been widely reported.

Allen is worth a 2nd+ and Lavoie has been underwhelming. Allen is more valuable than Lavoie in my eyes.

On top of that, we take on Koskinen. Addition by subtraction for the Edmonton. They get a massive upgrade in goal.

I don’t frequent on the Oilers boards but I’d have to imagine they’d jump at that deal looking at missing the playoffs in year 7 of the McDavid era. It would be embarrassing for their organization.

There is no trade proposal coming from a Habs board that would ever find acceptance on their forum. They'll rip it to shreds and then they'll claim that their prospects are untouchable. I think the best feedback is to reason it out as you did, break it down, rely on precedents so that at least you end up with a meaningful exchange somewhere on the internets.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Allen and Chiarot for 1st, Koskinen, and Lavoie

Thats bad for us.
Chariot alone should be worth around a 1st + 3rd.
Allen could possibly bring back a 2nd round pick, which I would easily take over Lavoie.

 

[McGees]

What about to the Yotes, rights to Jordan Harris, Logan Mailloux, Joel Armia and our and 2nd rounder in 2023 for Jacob Chcycrun?

A guy that won’t sign with them
A controversial sexual defamation offender
A freshly signed bad contract
Seems fair to me.

 

[The Great Weal]

Thats bad for us.
Chariot alone should be worth around a 1st + 3rd.
Allen could possibly bring back a 2nd round pick, which I would easily take over Lavoie.

I meant Bourgault instead of Lavoie but a middle of the pack team like EDM's 1st is worth way more than a 1st from cup contender teams.

That being said:
High teens 1st>late 20s 1st+3rd

Lavoie~mid 2nd round pick

If there are no better offers I take this.

 

[Habs Halifax]

A guy that won’t sign with them
A controversial sexual defamation offender
A freshly signed bad contract
Seems fair to me.

For a guy that might not re-sign with the Habs after his deal expires. Increased rebuild chance of disappointment. Why make a move like that now? I don't see the point. Make a move like that after the rebuild. Unless we are not rebuilding?

 

[Habs Halifax]

I meant Bourgault instead of Lavoie but a middle of the pack team like EDM's 1st is worth way more than a 1st from cup contender teams.

That being said:
High teens 1st>late 20s 1st+3rd

Lavoie~mid 2nd round pick

If there are no better offers I take this.

Bourgault is a guy I can see the Oilers thinking about using if they go after improvements. I think they would trade him before Holloway but if the Oilers and Habs get into any serious talks (Chiarot, Allen, or Price), My strategy would be to let them keep Broberg and Bouchard and target Bourgault and Holloway and 1sts. Depends on who we are trading but that's the targets we should look at with the Oilers. Lavoie would just be a grade B add on in any deal.

 

[GrandBison]

Better bet that Petry, Gallagher and Price will perform 3+ years from now then when we will be ready to compete (or retire early) because otherwise, it's their contract that are going to be the handcuffer of this team.

Gallagher will play like he always do or he will be on LTIR by the end of his contract. It's nice to have him scoring 30 goals a year, but he also brings a lot of energy and work ethic that will be needed in a rebuild with kids.