I'm totally ok with a 2022 first round pick (even a late first). I hope that we will draft several 1st round picks in June 2022 in order to have new blood sooner rather than later. And, as others said earlier, it will be difficult this year to have an unprotected 2023 1st round pick. Hope we could also add one or two second round picks also. It will be a good year to draft players (especially Canadians) who are a little behind in their development because of the year 2020-2021 (OHL, covid, etc.) ...
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I'm totally ok with a 2022 first round pick (even a late first). I hope that we will draft several 1st round picks in June 2022 in order to have new blood sooner rather than later. And, as others said earlier, it will be difficult this year to have an unprotected 2023 1st round pick. Hope we could also add one or two second round picks also. It will be a good year to draft players (especially Canadians) who are a little behind in their development because of the year 2020-2021 (OHL, covid, etc.) ...
Sterling Archer
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Not sure if it’s the depth of the draft or the lack of scouting but it looks like the top 15-20 could or have been in the top 5 or 10. If we can get 1 or two more picks in the 15-20 range, this could be a 2015 type draft with lots of quality players throughout the draft. Might actually get lucky this year with a good draft!
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I totally agree with your proposal. I'm sure Gorton will consider this in the trade proposal.
Proposal read on another blog:
Bourgault (EDM)
Koskinen (4,5 millions)
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Chiarot (1,8million retained for the rest of the season)
Allen (2,7 millions retained for 1 season and a half)
When you look at the late 1st round picks in recent years, there are often some good catches :
2017 : 21th Chytil, 22th Yamamoto, 27th Frost, 28th Bowers, 29th Jokiharju, 30th Tolvanen
2018 : 22th Kandre Miler, 23th Isac Lundestrom, 26th Bernard Docker, 27th Beaudin, 28th Lundkvist, 29th Sandin, 30th Veleno
2019 : 20th Heinola, 21th Poulin, 22th Bjornfot, 24th Tomasino, 25thMcMichael, 26th Pelletier
It's better in the teens, but there's some good picks every years in the late first.
None of which will be made available. It's best to take the best offer on the table period. That often means picks.
HuGort
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Not real fussy about 2 tier prospect. We have many to sign yet. Habs with extra picks last 3 drafts. I would ask for 2nd in '24 instead. Get the pick back we gave up in Dvorak trade. Even offer a 4th if necessary.
I don't think the Montreal Canadiens need more low tier prospects. Getting rid of Timmins should fix this, I hope. I'm hoping for better quality not more quantity. You can talk about quantity once player development is stellar. We're pretty far from that, so get the highest picks you can afford.
sampollock
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They're at the bottom of the league, they won't make an offer. That said, I want their unprotected first round pick in 2022 of course.
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That’s an awful deal for the Habs. They get one good piece and one useless piece, while giving up two good players AND they have to retain for an extra year.
They'd get a lot more than that trading Chiarot and Allen in separate deals.
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I like Bourgault but that return seem weak for those two player...
Chariot with retention should land a 1st +3rd rd pick or equivalent, maybe more with a bidding war.
Allen + retention should land a 3rd rd pick maybe even a 2nd
Taking Koskinen off their hand is like retaining more salary we should get something like a 3rd...
It depend how you see Bourgault but I assume EDM would need to add a couple of picks (2nd/3rd).
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I'm thinking of a 2nd tier prospect or a young player already in the NHL who isn't a blue chipper. I'm thinking something like the trade that sent Rivet to the Sharks for a 1st and Gorges. Gorges' value with the Habs ended up much higher than a future 2nd.
I think Bourgault is undervalued right now and will soon become untouchable for Edmonton. His injury early in the tournament is potentially a chance for CH to acquire him at a good price before he is too expensive, or Edmonton no longer wants to trade him.
He is closer to NHL in comparison with a late first 2022 and he is a good prospect from the Q.
I agree that the proposal is expansive for us (Allen + Chiarot + $retained vs Koskinen + Bourgault).
But still, I think it's a really good trade. If Edmonton wants to add a pick, that would just be better.
But I'm high on Bourgault, as you can see. Potential top6 forward from the Q.
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Sterling Archer
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Chiarot alone is worth a 1st and a prospect. Now adding Allen who’s worth arguably a late 1st/early 2nd and a better goalie, to take on Koskinen’s salary? I don’t get it.
Because Bourgault is a good prospect. You have to give to receive.
Add a 2nd 2023 and take a herbtea
Sterling Archer
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He is but I don’t think that package works. We’re giving up way too much for a good, not great prospect. I’d rather have their 1st and a good prospect than give Allen and take Koskinen back.
It doesn't even make sense for the Oilers to trade Koskinen for Allen one for one.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Im sorry but if there is no 1st pick involved for the habs atleast , this is awful.
Bourgault is a first round pick 2021.
2 days ago, he was on the in the WJC for Canada (strong team).
I think Edmonton wouldn't give Bourgault + Koskinen vs Chiarot. We should probably give more.
Hope you are right and that Chiarot and Allen are each worth a 1st round pick. I just find that sometimes we hope to receive a lot in return, and that often doesn't materialize. In short, I prefer to be realistic and have a ok deal.
Bourgault would be a great prospect for us.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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for taking 50% on both contract and taking an anchor contract of Koskinen to give them more chance at the cup , it deserves a late first in 2022.
Anyone ever heard of Niko Ojamäki?
He’s 26 year old Finnish forward playing in the KHL. He has 40 points in 43 games this year.
Niko Ojamäki at eliteprospects.com
He’s 26 year old Finnish forward playing in the KHL. He has 40 points in 43 games this year.
Niko Ojamäki at eliteprospects.com
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