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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread: From Here to Free Agency

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Just few years ago Flames fans were screaming about Zary same as we scream about Hage now. On trade board veteran Calgary fans told me he was near untouchable.

Hage is a prospect, you going on potential. Hage might be another Zary. Or a Newhook type.
There was a time in the rebuilt early years, or the before rebuilt years when things were stagnant for eternity when prospects like Hage were almost untouchable.
1. Because we didn't knew their potential, their ceilings were sky high. It was hyppothetic but maybe true.
2. Because there was no window, the best player of the team was Markov or Price and there was so many missing pieces before we could pretend to be pretenders that any interresting prospect was golden not developped wonder boy.

But now we have many solid pieces and a window correctly identified with Suzuki at 26 and Caufiald at 25.
Tic tac, tic tac, time is running, Habs have to work according to that window. Unless someone prove me Hage and Z will make a impact in 2 years from now, the kind of impact Suzuki and Hutson are making now. Habs can't wait that long. This 9is what I think and thgis is what many hockey experts of the media think.
 
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But we don't know all the details. Maybe Knies really is on the market and KH is in discussion with Toronto. I'd rather KH works on a trade for a better player than Kyrou. I see Kyrou as a plan B or C something you work on in august. There's no reason to be super negative until you have all the details.
I mean I think Knies was on the market but they literally swapped the GM. Unlikely hes still on the market
 
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I mean I think Knies was on the market but they literally swapped the GM. Unlikely hes still on the market
I agree it's just a name i threw in there.

I'd rather KH work on plan A now, Then plan B in july (UFA) and plan C in august. I don't see any of the players traded so far as plan A player outside of BT and we were not on his short list. Even Tuch for me is not plan A a winger is not what we need the most we should not spend quality assets on a winger unless it's Knies. Tuch is too old to spend good assets and money on Suzuki is 4 seasons removed from being where Tuch is now. 10.5 millions for 8 years if that's the contract Tuch signed i'm happy we were not interested.
 
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The reason he wants to get paid is because he did them a big solid on his bridge deal to get them under the cap on his 4 year deal. He wants what is owed to him and I don't put it against him that he does.

Him leaving money on the table on a short deal certainly going to benefit Robertson. At the end of the 21-22 season, he was 14th in goals and 33rd in points. 14th in goals for a kid finishing his ELC is pretty sweet. I just did a quick search to find that the following year in October 2022, he signed the 6th most lucrative contract for about a 2 year span (Jan 2020 to oct 2022) of players 23 and younger who had their contract start in 22-23. Players ahead of him: Fox, McAvoy, Hughes (Jack), Norris and Suzuki.

If anything Dallas f***ed up, should have given him Fox ($9.5M) money for 8 years.
 
If they punched over their weight, and what we saw is their absolute peak, then why the hell would we wait before maximizing this core?

I just don't buy the fact that Hage and Zharovsky, still several years away from even making it to the show, let alone being impact players, are going to have a franchise-altering impact on that team.

Which brings me back to that question; How would waiting, praying and hoping be a clever strategy?
Are you really praying though? Clubs built on great prospects usually yield great teams.

Zarovsky and Hage aren’t magic beans. They are ranked the 2nd and 3rd best players outside the NHL.

I’m open to trading them but not because I don’t believe in them or feel we have to ‘pray’ they’ll pan out. The only reason to do it is to accelerate things and skip their development years. THAT does make sense. But if you’re going to trade that kind of prospect, you’d better be getting something outstanding on return.

 
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Some of the trades are bordering on reckless. Hage and Z are potential top 6 to star level but we should trade them for some way over 30 year old on the vain hope of what? 2-3 more playoff games next year?

Then what about 3 years when these grandpas are done with hockey? Watch Z and Hage become 60-80 point players and our window starts closing?

Face it, your trading based on hope and emotion. Particularly if you want some grandpa that you think is going to help...just before the walker comes in.

Sheffield...Kadri...Tochet...FORGET THEM. Unless we get them for spares, use the common sense side of your brain and think what we need in 3 years...not 3 months.
 
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