Whos our Logan Stankoven available for trade? Dude was a beast in junior, mvp ahl in his first year pro. A top 10 nhl prospect not far ago lmfao!
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I dont see a contender, you do, time will tell.
Saundies
Fly On The Wall
I mean.. he's not a world burner right now. We don't have a him specifically right now but we have guys coming.
My point is that stacking multiple picks gets you great assets, contrary to what you're saying.
Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
The problem isn't the rebuild, but your incapacity to properly assess facts. Hutson is 3rd on the team in points. He was drafted just 3 years ago in our first rebuild draft. How's that for not having impact??? How can one say a rebuild is botched when the players drafted haven't even had time to come in??? Complete lunacy.
My point is you need a top prospecg to acquired talent. Dude was an allstar in juniors, was the best player in the AHL in his first pro year and was seen has a top10-15 prospect worldwide. (Do you even know Stankoven?!?!)
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MarkovsKnee
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I'm not talking about trading picks. I'm talking about drafting, developing then trading.
Eventually we'll have someone in the system like Stankoven who we'll feel free to move at TDL to add a player we want.
We're not moving Demidov or Reinbacher because they're part of our future core.
No one behind them is interesting enough to get a good player. Hughes is right that we don't yet have the horses to get big trades done.
That doesn't mean we don't have any. It means the few we do have, we're keeping for our own core.
Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
A botched rebuild is when you end up with Slaf/Reinbacher/Demidov(i really like that one) has your top picks. Not even a top center and now everyone wants to trade our picks and prospect for aging vet.
Wheres our :
Crosby / Malkin
Toews/Kane
Kopitar/Doughty
Nick Backstrom / Ovy
Stamkos / Hedman
Barkov / Ekblad
McDavid / Drai
Lunacy
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I just don’t whos in our system is gonna be Stankoven available for trade. I mean people dont even want to trade Hage and he is not on the lvl Stankoven was at the same age.
Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
Rantanen (signed) was just traded for the close equivalent of a seasoned Hage + two late firsts
Hage is a top 10-15 prospect in the world right now?! I like Hage btw. It’s like you guys have no idea who Stankoven is. He was the mvp of the AHL as a rookie and star at juniors lvl. He did pretty good in the NHL with one of the most stacked offense. He’s gonna be real good in Carolina.
Marchand has a M-NTC 8 teams no-trade list.
He's also old and on the downward spiral.
Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
Stop it. You have no idea how they will do. Our three drafts have given us Slaf, Hutson, Beck, Rein, Fowler, Demidov and Hage. That's 7 players in only 3 years. You do realize teams rarely produce 2 NHLers per draft? They are all 21 or younger. Complete lunacy.
Lunacy is comparing Hage and Stankoven, stop it.
You really think Rein/Slaf can compare to top picks like Sid/Kopi/Stamkos/Doughty/Hedman all the guy i mentionned?! Yes we hit the jackpot with Hutson, but all those superclub i mentionned have done the same in laters round(example Duncan Keith, Brayden Point, etc) but have hit the bank on thoses high picks.
My point is, if you want to be cup contenders year in and out, you need to hit the jackpot and fine superstars with thoses high picks and we didnt, except for Demidov but he still need to prove himself.
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Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
I can easily see Hage getting half ppg in his rookie season in the NHL, which is what Stank is doing this year. What Stankoven has done pre-NHL has no bearing on his value in this trade. They look at how he's been in the NHL, first and foremost. He's a shrimp and 0.5 ppg has not been as good as his development pedigree promised.
You're also disregarding the fact you talked about mid round 1st picks, when the two firsts Dallas gave will quite probably be very late.
Dallas has one of the most stack offense in the league, whatever we will not agree on this one. Lets revisit this in a couple of years.
sampollock
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That’s an outlier for a team in a non-destination market. Would Rantanen have agreed to the same deal with Montreal?
We do have great player-friendly management that may be a convincing safety net if only we could at least get elite players to be on the fence about the city. Will that be enough?
Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
Im gonna leave you to your ramblings after this reply.
I said a seasoned Hage. If Hage keeps his progression going, he should be close to as valuable as Caufield.
The rest of your post is filled with pointless remarks as if you had a crystall ball up your ass. You don't know the ultimate value of the 7 players I named. Fact is, last year, no one thought Hutson would be close to re-writting rookie D records. Get a grip.
kris
Registered User
Not unless the tax rules or the weather or the language changes ... Just is what it is. Don't hold your breath on any impact FAs coming here.
Stay the course, see what you can add at the draft
What the hell is that logic? You don’t look at previous years of development to tell if a guy can become good later on? Dominated the WHL, WJC, AHL as a rookie. He has 43pts in his first 83 nhl games. You are like those guys on the main board saying Slaf wont be more than a 45pts players because that’s his production right now. Let’s say Demidov have 45ots in his first season, he has no value in the league because of that and all the records he is breaking in the KHL won’t be worth a thing?! You don’t evaluate a young guy only on his production at the moment but you look at what he has done in the past and how it can translate on improvment in the future. It’s not like Stankoven had 12 pts in his first 82 nhl games. Anyway, you are just trying to devalue him. Kinda weird he was the main piece in a trade involving a top 10 signed winger.
Lunacy, get a grip.
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What we are seeing though is that players that are drafted and developed by the org, tend to want to stay on. That will continue to be our bread and butter. Maybe some players who like what Hughes is building, could be targeted in trades.
Not optimistic about free agents but hoping I’m wrong.
Grate n Colorful Oz
Pure Laine Hutson
I'm usually not optimistic as far as UFAs are concerned, but word gets around. Guys like Perry, Toffoli, Money, Laine have come here and had a great time. And Hughes is not some muscle-bound meathead with limited negociating skills. IMO he'll get at least one great FA signing before his tenure ends.
Taxes are a huge problem. Generally guys that hit the market go for the most money.
Beendair Donedat
You sold a dead bird to a blind kid????
This is how most long suffering Habs fans feel right now. We’ve been through a lot, been promised a lot, now it’s time to put up or shut up.
It’s frustrating because it’s been so long and Habs fans aren’t known for their patience.
As Larry Robinson said so succinctly in his book - “Montreal fans are with you, win or tie… just don’t tie too often”
Sam Bennett has to be the number one target of the off season. He brings everything we need and with Florida likely having little cap room to sign him AND Ekblad, his previous relationship with Hughes, his glowing words about Montreal and the ability to make a truckload of money… you have to think that’s the guy Hughes will work to get… and I honestly think we’ve got a strong shot at landing him.
Another couple of targets I would look at:
From Utah: Lawson Crouse
Crouse is a veteran power forward who seems to have kind of lost his spot in Utah after being a model of consistency for years. I think a change of scenery could help return him to his 20 goal a year form and his heavy game would translate well in the playoffs.
I’d offer up Newhook and possibly a mild sweetener for Crouse.
The other guy I’d try to poach would be Mavrik Bourque from Dallas. The Stars are in real deep water next year with the Rantanen and Johnston contracts kicking in for serious cash, and Harley only a year away from a major raise. Bourque could be the odd man out, especially as he’s heading to RFA status. Habs could offer sheet him if Dallas doesn’t want to make a deal, or they could move a couple of picks/prospects as Dallas emptied out the cupboard when they loaded up. Maybe someone like Mailloux as Dallas looks to need young defense prospects.
Habs start 2025-2026 with:
Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Demidov - Bennett - Laine
Crouse - Bourque - Dach
Heineman - Evans - Anderson
Gallagher
Hutson - Matheson
Guhle - Carrier
Xhekaj - Reinbacher
Struble
Montembeault
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