HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Treb]

Please Hugues Trade Anderson or Armia

Very little reason to do that right now.

Armia probably get traded at TDL or he goes in July.

Anderson is more of a summer 2025 or 2026 move.

 

[HabbyGuy]

I highly doubt that. If HuGo thought he would milk the team for everything he can get they wouldn't have traded for him.

Good luck to Laine and his agent trying to milk Hughes anyway. Not gonna happen.

If there's a want to get a deal done from a habs perspective, it will be a fair one. If not he'll be moved for assets. No agent is putting Hughes over a barrel, he's far better equipped to deal with these things than other GM's.

 

[Vachon23]

I highly doubt that. If HuGo thought he would milk the team for everything he can get they wouldn't have traded for him.

They trade for him because they where paid to get a player that can score 30g and more

 

[Mrb1p]

A player under 26 yrs that have already ask for 2 traded is what though ?



I expect the opposite personally, he’s in the mole then both of those guys

Demanded out of WPG: Laine, Kane, Trouba, Roslovic, McGroarty

Maybe it's not the players but the city/management.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

They trade for him because they where paid to get a player that can score 30g and more

They made a calculated bet that he would work out. If he doesn't they have lost nothing. I am sure they decided he had the right character and desire to win. Remains to be seen if they were right.

 

[Vachon23]

They made a calculated bet that he would work out. If he doesn't they have lost nothing. I am sure they decided he had the right character and desire to win. Remains to be seen if they were right.

I love the move to get me wrong, I just don’t expect him to resign on a friendly deal

Demanded out of WPG: Laine, Kane, Trouba, Roslovic, McGroarty

Maybe it's not the players but the city/management.

But from 2 teams ? PLD was being called here for the same thing

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Demanded out of WPG: Laine, Kane, Trouba, Roslovic, McGroarty

Maybe it's not the players but the city/management.

Laine wanted out I believe because of ice time.

Kane did he want out, or did the Jets just want him out ?

Trouba wanted out to be closer to his gf/wife going through medical school, or a residency in New York.

Roslovic I think was ice time

McGroarty wanted out because he wanted, or felt he was ready for the NHL and the Jets were going for top spot and didn't want to play him and potentially risk losing a spot.

Somewhat similar with Gauthier, but the Flyers didn't want to sign him because of cap concerns for the next season.

So, overall seems like people want out because of ice-time mainly. Both of thr axtual ice time players were under Maurice I believe, so they've addressed the coaching

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I love the move to get me wrong, I just don’t expect him to resign on a friendly deal



But from 2 teams ? PLD was being called here for the same thing

I don't expect a team friendly deal either. I think he would ask for the going rate for whatever his production was.

 

[Mrb1p]

I love the move to get me wrong, I just don’t expect him to resign on a friendly deal



But from 2 teams ? PLD was being called here for the same thing

The same can be said of Colombus. Carter, Merzlikins, Chinakov, Laine, Dubois, Jones, etc. At some point it's not the players but the team.

Shit cities, shit team, shit management, leadership group rotten to the core. It's not hard to see it.

Laine wanted out I believe because of ice time.

Kane did he want out, or did the Jets just want him out ?

Trouba wanted out to be closer to his gf/wife going through medical school, or a residency in New York.

Roslovic I think was ice time

McGroarty wanted out because he wanted, or felt he was ready for the NHL and the Jets were going for top spot and didn't want to play him and potentially risk losing a spot.

Somewhat similar with Gauthier, but the Flyers didn't want to sign him because of cap concerns for the next season.

So, overall seems like people want out because of ice-time mainly. Both of thr axtual ice time players were under Maurice I believe, so they've addressed the coaching

No, Kane asked for a trade out with the whole joggers in the shower thing. Trouba wanted to be away from the middle of nowhere, CA. Don't sugarcoat it.

People want out because it's a shit team in a shit city with a shit culture and a shit ownership and a shit leadership with shit results.

It's as simple as that.

 

[Kennerback]

Winnipeg average weather in January Hi: -10 / Low: - 18. No nightlife.

 

[vokiel]

Winnipeg average weather in January Hi: -10 / Low: - 18. No nightlife.

I'd move there for a million CAD, no shit.

 

[Mrb1p]

I'd move there for a million CAD, no shit.

You wouldn't because other teams would be paying you the same amount, or more.

 

[vokiel]

You wouldn't because other teams would be paying you the same amount, or more.

I ain't that good

Seriously, anyone put a million big ones in my pockets and I'm moving to Winnipeg to freelance software dev.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Winnipeg average weather in January Hi: -10 / Low: - 18. No nightlife.

In January they are playing every two or three nights, not a lot of time for that. Also you can live outside of WPG during 4-6 months offseason.

For me WPG management has had some locker room issues which pushed away guys like Laine and Kane with a big ego. However, good for them to get Yager and not cave to McGroarty s demands. Trouba played there several years and told them he would not sign long term which is his right as a UFA. PLD was the same thing and in both cases mgmt are looking like geniuses right now.

 

[BaseballCoach]

If he scores 40+ then you sign him and pay him market value. 40+ aren’t easy to find. It would be stupid not to.

So obvious. Nothing wrong with paying market value for top talent when you have a competitive team, especially one where most of the core is locked up at nice AAVs.

More precisely, at that point, Price comes off the books, while Gallagher and Anderson have only one year left if not already gone. The money being saved in the next two seasons plus the cap rise will combine for a much greater amount than any raises needed to guys not locked up right now.

We will be able to afford a hypothetical stud-performing Laine PLUS one or two more star players.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Goddammit! I really wanted Askarov!

In a vaccuum maybe, but not at the price paid. That was way too much for us to consider competing with.

Imagine not only giving up our 2025 first rounder PLUS a top-tier prospect, but also agreeing to pre-extend guy with 2 games NHL experience and a so-so AHL playoff record to a bridge deal around double the AAV that Xhekaj, Barron, and Primeau earn.

San José is taking a big gamble, but we didn't need to be as all-in for this one player.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Please Hugues Trade Anderson or Armia

Armia was our fourth leading goal scorer last year. If you can get value without waiting for the TDL, fine, but do not give him away at this time.

 

[Scintillating10]

Damn, I really wanted Askarov. Glad Kent was at least in on it.

It was a pretty rich deal though, looks like.

Did they say what we offered?

 

[Vachon23]

Armia was our fourth leading goal scorer last year. If you can get value without waiting for the TDL, fine, but do not give him away at this time.

Armia is gonna be more valuable at the TDL. He’s the kind of players many teams will look for. Bottom 6 player with size that will help you in the playoffs

 

[HomaridII]

In a vaccuum maybe, but not at the price paid. That was way too much for us to consider competing with.

Imagine not only giving up our 2025 first rounder PLUS a top-tier prospect, but also agreeing to pre-extend guy with 2 games NHL experience and a so-so AHL playoff record to a bridge deal around double the AAV that Xhekaj, Barron, and Primeau earn.

San José is taking a big gamble, but we didn't need to be as all-in for this one player.

San Jose had to trade for a goalie at some point since they literally have nothing in the pipeline and Askarov fits their age group and time line. But Askarov, other than being a highly touted prospect has done nothing.

If I showed you these two players AHL stats:

Player A:
Playoffs
12 GP - 2.70 GAA, 903 save %
5 GP - 3.25 GAA, 882 save %

Player B:
Playoffs:
14 GP, 2.17 GAA, 936 save %
4 GP, 2.52 GAA, 912 save %

Which one of these two would you say its Askarov. For the record player B is Cayden Primeau on a much worse team than Askarov.

 

[BLONG7]

Demanded out of WPG: Laine, Kane, Trouba, Roslovic, McGroarty

Maybe it's not the players but the city/management.

Add, PLD.....................it would seem Wheeler might not have been the only bad apple, Thinking of their star centre??
Then Laine goes to Columbus where that culture on the team is now been called into question by their new GM Wadell, so.....................................we wonder why HuGo are so big on Culture? Not just Karachter, but culture..

In a vaccuum maybe, but not at the price paid. That was way too much for us to consider competing with.

Imagine not only giving up our 2025 first rounder PLUS a top-tier prospect, but also agreeing to pre-extend guy with 2 games NHL experience and a so-so AHL playoff record to a bridge deal around double the AAV that Xhekaj, Barron, and Primeau earn.

San José is taking a big gamble, but we didn't need to be as all-in for this one player.

Another kid, who seems to be making demands eh...........if he was all that they would not have signed Saros to an extension.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Laine wanted out I believe because of ice time.

Kane did he want out, or did the Jets just want him out ?

Trouba wanted out to be closer to his gf/wife going through medical school, or a residency in New York.

Roslovic I think was ice time

McGroarty wanted out because he wanted, or felt he was ready for the NHL and the Jets were going for top spot and didn't want to play him and potentially risk losing a spot.

Somewhat similar with Gauthier, but the Flyers didn't want to sign him because of cap concerns for the next season.

So, overall seems like people want out because of ice-time mainly. Both of thr axtual ice time players were under Maurice I believe, so they've addressed the coaching

Byfuglin just oddly retired and the paul Maurice the coach just quit because the room was incoachsble

 

[BLONG7]

In a vaccuum maybe, but not at the price paid. That was way too much for us to consider competing with.

Imagine not only giving up our 2025 first rounder PLUS a top-tier prospect, but also agreeing to pre-extend guy with 2 games NHL experience and a so-so AHL playoff record to a bridge deal around double the AAV that Xhekaj, Barron, and Primeau earn.

San José is taking a big gamble, but we didn't need to be as all-in for this one player.

Another kid, who seems to be making demands eh...........if he was all that they would not have signed Saros to an extension.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Demanded out of WPG: Laine, Kane, Trouba, Roslovic, McGroarty

Maybe it's not the players but the city/management.

You can add Wheeler, PLD, Ehlers, Buff, that we know of.

 

[DAChampion]

How does Schieffele manage to be that much of an asshole?