HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[le_sean]

Says who?

Says my eyes and every single person that’s ranked goalie prospects.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Depends how he performs and how the CAP grows…

Back to back 40. Goal seasons gotta be worth a crisp 8m$ x 5yrs

Would he take that? Would he want longer term? I mean, I have no idea. Nobody does.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Is that pick from SJ lotto protected for 1st overall?

 

[Saundies]

Damn, I really wanted Askarov. Glad Kent was at least in on it.

It was a pretty rich deal though, looks like.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Damn, I really wanted Askarov. Glad Kent was at least in on it.

It was a pretty rich deal though, looks like.

I'm just glad the Sens and Leafs are sleeping at the wheel.

Askarov will be among the elite

 

[Whalers Fan]

Depends how he performs and how the CAP grows…

Back to back 40. Goal seasons gotta be worth a crisp 8m$ x 5yrs

Laine has scored 40 goals once in his career... 7 years ago. Expecting back to back seasons of 40 with the obstacles he has to overcome is quite the stretch.

 

[jaffy27]

Says my eyes and every single person that’s ranked goalie prospects.

Ok, I’ll buy that, but is he THAT much better?


There is no guarantee that he will be so much better at the NHL LEVEL then let’s say Fowler, he may be projecting but it’s probably not by a lot.

I had seen a goalie prospect ranking and Askarov was at 2
While Fowler was at 3.

If we had no goalies in the top 10 I’d say fill your boots, overpay for the prospect that has potential but the fact they are so close I’d say keep your picks and prospects and use them for other needs and shortcomings.

Laine has scored 40 goals once in his career... 7 years ago. Expecting back to back seasons of 40 with the obstacles he has to overcome is quite the stretch.

Not expecting that, I’m dealing with hypotheticals.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Is that pick from SJ lotto protected for 1st overall?

It's Vegas' pick - - unless by some miracle SJ's own pick ends up later.

 

[HomaridII]

Is that pick from SJ lotto protected for 1st overall?

If the San Jose pick is top 10 they will have the choice to send the Vegas Pick.

That's the only protection.

For us its the equivalent of sending the Calgary 1st Unprotected, and one of Beck/Mesar something like that plus Dobes.

Personally? I am glad we didn't pull the trigger.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Not expecting that, I’m dealing with hypotheticals.

That's a pretty farfetched hypothetical.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

That's a solid trade for both teams, Sharks paid quite a price but that'll be huge for their rebuild.

Trotz likes character guys so odds are he likely wanted Beck as part of the deal along with a first so I'm not surprised Hughes didn't pull the trigger.

 

[jaffy27]

That's a pretty farfetched hypothetical.

From a former 40 goal scorer?

Anyways, there is no such thing as a far fetched hypothetical, it’s mine, I can do whatever I want with it

 

[Sterling Archer]

Laine has scored 40 goals once in his career... 7 years ago. Expecting back to back seasons of 40 with the obstacles he has to overcome is quite the stretch.

For me it’s more a question of staying healthy for an entire season. If he does, 40 is definitely possible. He’s averaging 35 goals a game throughout his career and that’s on some pretty terrible teams.

 

[jaffy27]

That's a solid trade for both teams, Sharks paid quite a price but that'll be huge for their rebuild.

Trotz likes character guys so odds are he likely wanted Beck as part of the deal along with a first so I'm not surprised Hughes didn't pull the trigger.

Thank god…..we already loaded with potential at G

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If the San Jose pick is top 10 they will have the choice to send the Vegas Pick.

That's the only protection.

For us its the equivalent of sending the Calgary 1st Unprotected, and one of Beck/Mesar something like that plus Dobes.

Personally? I am glad we didn't pull the trigger.

We have Fowler. I don’t think it makes sense to make a deal when we’ve got a good group coming up.

All due respect to Askarov’s talent.

 

[HuGort]

I wouldn’t make that trade but it makes sense for the Sharks. They basically used the assets they got from the Hertl trade. They are building something nice over there, two potential 1Cs in Celebrini and Smith, a potential 1D in Dickinson, and a potential 1G in Askarov.

It's not hard when you drafting high every round.

 

[Tyson]

It's not hard when you drafting high every round.

Some teams would disagree, Edmonton, Buffalo to name a couple

 

[Paddy17]

Micheal Hage

or

McGroarty (for #21 OA in 2024 + 3rd round pick)

What is better?

Hage

 

[Tyson]

Hage

 

[Bottle Rocket]

San Jose was in need of an Askarov in their talent pool. Not that it would have been harmful to get him ourselves, but they were able and willing to outbid competitors.

I'm sure KH was in on it, but he has shown that he will not overpay unecessarily.

 

[Adam Michaels]

In the end, Sharks turned Hertl into Askarov.

Sharks traded Hertl to Vegas for Edstrom and a 2025 1st.

5 months later, they flip Edstrom and a 2025 1st for Askarov.

 

[Captain Mountain]

In the end, Sharks turned Hertl into Askarov.

Sharks traded Hertl to Vegas for Edstrom and a 2025 1st.

5 months later, they trade Edstrom and a 2025 1st for Askarov.

We'll see if Askarov can translate on the hype/upside (more Vasilevsky than Hart), but that's some tidy bit of work considering Hertl was an injury and aging risk.

Nashville also did a pretty good job making the most out of a bad situation.

 

[Vachon23]

I think he’s at a stage where he will choose to be part of a winning group rather then chase an extra 2-3M $ on a non-playoff team. If he plays well and Habs start winning I’m not worried

I'm sorry but no player will let 2-3m on the table for 5-6 year contract (15m on the table). He's becoming UFA at 29, that players best opportunity to cash out, they will do it. And it's not like if we where a team like Dallas (real contender).

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Well , Askarov is about to find out what playing in the NHL is like , good luck kid , you're gonna need it

 

[Mrb1p]

Sharks made a good move there. Ultimately it didn't make sense for the Habs anyway.