Vachon23
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Askarov could be a game changer that could put us in the top 3-4 of the league in 3-4 years
HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread
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If Nashville kept Saros over him then they don't think he is any good. Saros is not that good himself.
Askarov struggled again in the AHL playoffs and he wants a garanteed NHL spot.
He might threaten to go to the KHL if he doesn't get what he wants.
Unless he comes cheap, i'd pass.
He might threaten to go to the KHL if he doesn't get what he wants.
Unless he comes cheap, i'd pass.
Vachon23
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Demidov is a HAB
Jesus that's a rough take. Saros is a very good goalie.
There's Vasy and Shesty then there's a group including Saros, Oettinger, Sorokin, etc.
le_sean
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Saros has a .917 career save percentage. Last year was his only “down” year with a .906 sv%
Still. Not sure we should even be targeting Askarov. Two years in the AHL of .910 save % and even lower in the playoffs. Cayden Primeau has almost identical regular season AHL numbers as Askarov and totally kills him in the playoffs.
Adam Michaels
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Only things I know about Askarov:
1 - selected 11th OA.
2 - struggled at the WJC with Russia. Granted, struggling in that tournament doesn't mean you won't be great in the NHL.
3 - he bench pressed the net after a win in the AHL.
That's all I know about him. I don't know how good he truly is. I never watched him in Milwaukee to get a sense of him. So I'm not here advocating whether Habs should trade for him or not. But I'm not mad at keeping the Monty/Primeau duo. Between the two, they started a little over 75% of the games last year and had a combined .906 SV%.
I think Habs need more help for their offense than they do in goal.
1 - selected 11th OA.
2 - struggled at the WJC with Russia. Granted, struggling in that tournament doesn't mean you won't be great in the NHL.
3 - he bench pressed the net after a win in the AHL.
That's all I know about him. I don't know how good he truly is. I never watched him in Milwaukee to get a sense of him. So I'm not here advocating whether Habs should trade for him or not. But I'm not mad at keeping the Monty/Primeau duo. Between the two, they started a little over 75% of the games last year and had a combined .906 SV%.
I think Habs need more help for their offense than they do in goal.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Askarov has athletic traits and ability that Primeau will never have. Numbers don't tell the whole story with goaltenders, especially goaltending prospects. He's a rare prospect which is why he went around top10 in a draft as a goalie.
You don't bend over backward from our perspective to do this, but if there's a bargain to be had here, it's well worth taking.
I cannot fathom going into this season with the same team as last year - Dach aside. It's crazy.
le_sean
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So we should instead trade for Jack Campbell who had better stats than both in the AHL?
You just need to watch Askarov to see the talent and athleticism.
You should trade for nobody, that's what you should do. Goaltending isn't the issue and are you going to guarantee Askarov NHL time? And next year when he wants to be no.1 or bolt to Russia will you do that to?
As big a prospect as he is, Askarov has proven absolutely nothing in North America.
LaP
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Did he say he wants a guarantee NHL spot?
Saros is signed until 2033 maybe he just wants to play for a team where he has a chance to eventually be number 1 before he turns 50.
Yes he said so.
He refused to report to the AHL team altogether. He will not play AHL any longer.
Adam Michaels
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The report today is that Askarov advised the Preds that he will not report to the AHL if they send him down. And has asked for a trade. He clearly wants to go somewhere where he will play in the NHL.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
They are trying to organically grow the core of the team and the future elements of the core. I'm glad they didn't just throw Copp, Holl and other grenades in front of our young players on long term UFA details like Detroit
'I would absolutely guarantee him NHL time - see you later Cayden Primeau.
le_sean
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Goaltending is certainly an issue. We have guys playing over their heads. Montembeault would make a good tandem with Askarov who is only 22.
He’s not proven anything except being the go-to goalie for a really good AHL team two years in a row from the age of 20-22.
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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I don't like full right goalies, but I'd be interested in Askarov.
The problem is I'd be hesitant to trade the conditional 1st, as if I'm understanding it correctly, the Habs get the better of the 2 1sts if Calgary and Florida finish outside the bottom 10.
So, if Calgary finishes 11th and Florida 25th, Montreal gets the 11th overall pick and I'm not trading the 11th overall for any goalie prospect.
However, Calgary's team kinda sucks and they lost Markstrom, so have to imagine they won't finish just outside the top 10.
1st + for Askarov.
Primeau for a pick.
Question is, who then takes Primeau ? Chicago/San Jose/other ?
The problem is I'd be hesitant to trade the conditional 1st, as if I'm understanding it correctly, the Habs get the better of the 2 1sts if Calgary and Florida finish outside the bottom 10.
So, if Calgary finishes 11th and Florida 25th, Montreal gets the 11th overall pick and I'm not trading the 11th overall for any goalie prospect.
However, Calgary's team kinda sucks and they lost Markstrom, so have to imagine they won't finish just outside the top 10.
1st + for Askarov.
Primeau for a pick.
Question is, who then takes Primeau ? Chicago/San Jose/other ?
LaP
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The news i've read he said he would not report to the AHL for Nashville. Nothing more. That doesn't mean much for me because he has almost 0 chance to play in the NHL for Nashville in the next 2 years and then he would be stuck as a number 2 for 10 trillion years. So saying he wont report to the AHL for Nashville is basically asking for a trade cause he's not part of the plan. Unless he clearly say i wont play in the AHL anywhere that doesn't mean much imo.
EveryDay
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Askarov is the best goaltending prospect in the entire NHL.
Nashville would need an AHL goaltender if they trade him so here's the deal.
Dobes + Barron + 1st FLO/CAL 2025(top10 protected).
Nashville would need an AHL goaltender if they trade him so here's the deal.
Dobes + Barron + 1st FLO/CAL 2025(top10 protected).
Pompeius Magnus
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TBH, as good a prospect as Askarov is, I don't know how much better of a potential future NHL starter he is than guys like Dobes and Fowler, at the moment at least. There are quite a few question marks surrounding his attitude and mental makeup, the bust potential is pretty high. He's a real tempting project though, if he does make it in the NHL he'll probably be a star.
Vachon23
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Yes ! Bye Primeau
It would be a question of time before he pass Montembault
EveryDay
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Primeau was solid last year, MTL would receive interest for him imo. Edmonton could use him instead of Pickard, Calgary as well.
le_sean
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Except for the fact he’s younger than Dobes and was better than him in the same league?
Fowler has proven nothing. I love his attitude, but he’s just a solid goalie on a completely stacked college team. His development can go anywhere. He doesn’t have the same pedigree as Askarov.
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1) Montembeault, Barron, and a 2nd for Askarov
2) Calgary 1st + Gallagher for Laine
3) Offersheet for Seider
4) Bearer bonds secretly transferred for Demidov
5)
Laine - Dach - Slafkovsky
Caulfield - Suzuki - Demidov
Armia - Newhook - Roy
Anderson - Evans - Pezzetta
Guhle - Seider
Matheson - Savard
Xhekaj - Harris
Askarov
Primeau
6) Profit.
2) Calgary 1st + Gallagher for Laine
3) Offersheet for Seider
4) Bearer bonds secretly transferred for Demidov
5)
Laine - Dach - Slafkovsky
Caulfield - Suzuki - Demidov
Armia - Newhook - Roy
Anderson - Evans - Pezzetta
Guhle - Seider
Matheson - Savard
Xhekaj - Harris
Askarov
Primeau
6) Profit.
