Sure. But my post didn't suggest we should prioritize friendliness over our club needs...
True, but your concern was burning bridges. Which I took to mean that it would eliminate any future contact with the RedWings.
Using OS just to drive up the inevitable signing for a rival GM (which is what that post was suggesting) is a poor strategy & would sour relationships unnecessarily.
I'll give you this. That would be considered an "asshole" move. That could cause future ramifications. My reasoning for doing it would be to improve our team. Sadly there would probably be some hurt feelings along the way.
Being on strong professional terms with rivals is a more effective way to achieve our goals.
Yes, that is the ideal way to do things. It's a business though, so I like looking at all my options. Some may be pleasant, some not so much.
Seider isn't "proven" at 11+M$ either... Heck, he wasn't even top 15 in Norris voting.
Agreed, but everything he's shown so far, shows he's heading in that direction. To have a shot at getting him. You'd have to pay above market value.
If you don't think players pay attention to contracts, not sure what to tell you.
Oh they do, especially since they've made Salaries available for everyone to see. In saying that, do you not think players pay attention to improvements made by management? Would the players be happy if they didn't try to improve the team. Just so they can keep within a certain financial limit?
It's hard to do, but as the Bs showed with Bergeron/Marchand, a club can build buy in from players to accept less than full market value to stay a part of a big picture vision. KH is quite clearly building that kind of culture. A move like this would completely unravel that.
Yes it's commendable that they were able to do that for such a long period of time. But do you think they'd say "Meh Leon Draisaitl wants to sign with us" "But he'd make more than Marchand/Pastrnak, so we'll have to pass". If the right situation arises, things change.
Player's are people first.
Yes, there might be some resentment. The bottom line is, these players want to win. So I'd hope they'd be more concerned with that. Then if they got enough on their latest contract.
So on the one hand, you can see how the bigger picture can affect a player's perspective, but on the other hand you claim the market sets the tone... See the inconsistency?
Yes I can see it, if you had two players currently on the team, who were valued equally. Yet one was paid more than the other. In the case of adding a player who makes more money, too improve the team. I would hope the players would understand, and not sulk over it.
Suzuki & co. are left without the addition, but the message that their boss values a guy in their age bracket (who is only marginally more "proven") 50% more...
They could look at it like that. If their only concern was for themselves. Or they could look at it as management is doing all they can to improve the team.
& what of RB, Hutson & Demidov in the near future? Rather than being able to leverage the consistency found in the Guhle/Slaf/CC/Suzuki/Dach/Newhook contracts, KH will be stuck praying their agents don't convince them to find OS like the one Ken threw at Seider.... Agents, and players, have long memories.
So in other words, we should forget about adding a player who will make more money than Suzuki? Which would limit our team to how well Suzuki does. If RB, Hutson & Demidov all hit their potential, they will get paid. Also who's to say that all or any of them will follow the trend set by Suzuki?
You build a culture of excellence and an organization player's want to be a part of long term... You draft & develop well, and manage your cap to be in a position to strike when opportunities appear to bolster your roster with players that fit your needs & long term plan.
No organization, whether it be an NHL team, Microsoft or your local mom and pop pizza shop. Will follow a long term plan to the letter. There are always going to be issues or factors that force you to alter your plans. I'd be quite surprised if HuGo's long term plan, is set in stone. Without allowing for some flexibility.
You don't throw darts at the dart board just for the sake of it, and you don't play chicken with rivals GMs just to try to mess with their cap situation by marginal amounts (in this case, less than 3%).
Since HuGo hasn't done this. It's me that's throwing darts at the dart board. I made the decision based on my little knowledge of Seider. Where if HuGo were to follow that route. I'm sure a lot more time, thought and effort, would be put into the decision.
The entire premise, OS Seider so that the wings pay him 11M$ instead of the 8-9M$ he likely settles on,is beyond asinine.
Yes, and I agree with you. I"ve already said it's an asshole move, that really doesn't accomplish anything positive. Except maybe putting the Wings in a tight situation financially.
My point of making the OS to Seider is to get him.
