HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Boss Man Hughes]

I disagree on the bolded part. I didn't realize Detroit had that much cap space. So yes, I think they would match. Though isn't Raymond due for a new contract as well? If so, Detroit would have a hard time signing both of them. If Sieder signed an offer sheet.

He might be one of the few worth 4 1sts because he is a rd.

 

[The Great Weal]

Getting Seider via offersheet would be an absolute chad move

Detroit would match tho and they have enough cap space to match anything.

Not only that, but you can pretty much guarantee that they will look into offersheeting Demidov/Reinbacher/Hutson/Fowler when the time comes.

As someone already mentioned, offersheets could only work for an unproven player that would have an extreme cap hit.

 

[CHfan1]

2) We've dressed 7 many many games last year, I don't have the stat on hand. You dress 7 because you might need Xhekaj on the bench while playing Harris/Struble/Barron.

Montreal dressed 7 defencemen 3 times last season. On December 31st vs Tampa Bay, January 2nd vs Dallas, and January 4th vs Buffalo.

 

[SOLR]

Montreal dressed 7 defencemen 3 times last season. On December 31st vs Tampa Bay, January 2nd vs Dallas, and January 4th vs Buffalo.

Hmm I thought it was more often, must have been the amount of injuries/games.

How many games missed by Guhle/Matheson/Savard.

 

[CHfan1]

Hmm I thought it was more often, must have been the amount of injuries/games.

How many games missed by Guhle/Matheson/Savard.

Matheson played 82 games, Guhle 70, Savard 60.

 

[Jaynki]

Not only that, but you can pretty much guarantee that they will look into offersheeting Demidov/Reinbacher/Hutson/Fowler when the time comes.

As someone already mentioned, offersheets could only work for an unproven player that would have an extreme cap hit.

I don't see it as a problem. If we treat our future stars well and manage our cap to extend them at a fair price, we will never be in a bad spot if they sign an OS.

I hope GM starts using it more and its also their responsability to edge themselves from them.

The summer we were due to extend KK, we spent on Savard and f***ing Mike Hoffman, even going above the cap.

We exposed ourselves and it was terrible management. Even tho it did not end well for them, Carolina Hurricanes were extremely right to abuse our mediocrity and mismanagement.

STL again have been extremely savvy and profited from Edmonton laxism. Gotta have their priority set the right way.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

We still own a 1st in 2025 if we do it, and we still own two 2nds in 2025 and one in 2026.

Plus it opens up the possibility to trade Matheson which yields at least another first.

Guhle-Seider
Matheson-Savard
Hutson-Xhekaj

For this year and the next year

Guhle-Seiser
Hutson-XX
Xhekaj-Reinbacher


It's not a waste of time because they also have to sign Raymond. They'd be forced to either choose between the two or move assets. And even if they were to match, it means they're paying Seider 2-3 millions more than they are realistically going to pay him.

I doubt Seider would sign an offer sheet. Maybe if it was for a ridiculous aav and term to take him to UFA. And why would Habs do that? And I don't think Hughes has any appetite for making an offer sheet just to force a team (Detroit) to pay more than they would want to.

 

[The Real Timo]

So we take Ceci & Kulak from Edmonton along with their 2026 1st for Harris

Flip Gallagher and Ceci to the Pens for Letang and keep Kulak to be this years Kovacevic

Then trade Matheson and Mesar to the Jets for McG

Anderson and Armia to the Jackets for Laine

Savard at 50% to the Preds for Tomasino

Am I missing anyone that’s linked to the Habs?

Michael Therrien 3.0 assumes head coaching duties. NOW da rebuild is complete.

 

[rahad]

So we take Ceci & Kulak from Edmonton along with their 2026 1st for Harris

Flip Gallagher and Ceci to the Pens for Letang and keep Kulak to be this years Kovacevic

Then trade Matheson and Mesar to the Jets for McG

Anderson and Armia to the Jackets for Laine

Savard at 50% to the Preds for Tomasino

Am I missing anyone that’s linked to the Habs?

you have been playing way to much NHL 2024 on the playstation lol.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Offer sheeting Seider makes no sense and it won’t work. It’s a nice fantasy but will never happen and even if it did, it would automatically get matched. Redwings will never lose their best player and franchise D.

 

[Tyson]

Offer sheeting Seider makes no sense and it won’t work. It’s a nice fantasy but will never happen and even if it did, it would automatically get matched. Redwings will never lose their best player and franchise D.

We don't need him anyway. Reinbacher will become that force.

 

[The Great Weal]

I don't see it as a problem. If we treat our future stars well and manage our cap to extend them at a fair price, we will never be in a bad spot if they sign an OS.

Do you think the Wings didn't want to do this with their players? You probably won't be able to sign every key player to a fair contract well before they can be offersheeted, and you can bet that the Wings will definitely look for payback if Hughes does it.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

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Bowman is like 90, but to me he just looks like a dude in his lat 50s, or early 60s from the 90s.

People are aging weirdly now.

 

[le_sean]

Not only that, but you can pretty much guarantee that they will look into offersheeting Demidov/Reinbacher/Hutson/Fowler when the time comes.

As someone already mentioned, offersheets could only work for an unproven player that would have an extreme cap hit.

It’s Yzerman and the Red Wings. Judging by the players they’ve signed and drafted since he’s been there, they’d likely offersheet Heineman or Tuch rather than a player with talent.

 

[overlords]

Bowman is like 90, but to me he just looks like a dude in his lat 50s, or early 60s from the 90s.

People are aging weirdly now.

the microplastics are keeping us young

 

[Habs10Habs]

Not only that, but you can pretty much guarantee that they will look into offersheeting Demidov/Reinbacher/Hutson/Fowler when the time comes.

As someone already mentioned, offersheets could only work for an unproven player that would have an extreme cap hit.

The only teams who have their players get offers. Are the teams that try to nickel and dime their players (Aho) or wait until the last minute to re-sign them. We could have re-signed KK with the money we spent on Hoffman and Savard. The Oilers could have re-signed Broberg and Holloway with the money they used to sign Skinner.

If HuGo is smart, which I'm guessing we can agree he is. He'll know what it would take to re-sign the examples you provided above. Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky and Ghule. All signed early, because HuGo sees them as important elements for our future.

 

[Habs10Habs]

I doubt Seider would sign an offer sheet. Maybe if it was for a ridiculous aav and term to take him to UFA. And why would Habs do that? And I don't think Hughes has any appetite for making an offer sheet just to force a team (Detroit) to pay more than they would want to.

In the offer that was provided. Seider would get 11m per season. I'd say that's a ridiculous aav.

Why would the Habs do that? To try and obtain one of the best young RHD in the league. I don't think so either. The whole point is to make an offer to Seider, that is way above his current market value.

The whole point is moot though. Since Detroit has a ton of cap space and could easily match.

 

[Habs10Habs]

We don't need him anyway. Reinbacher will become that force.

Hopefully he will. Don't make me post that dumbass gif "Why not both?" lol

 

[Miller Time]

Offer sheeting Seider makes no sense and it won’t work. It’s a nice fantasy but will never happen and even if it did, it would automatically get matched. Redwings will never lose their best player and franchise D.

And it would completely undermine the very successful RFA contact negotiation approach in place, jeopardizing the relationships with our young core in the process...

That's not how this mngt group works.

Id put the likelihood at 0 that KH has even remotely considered OS Seider.

 

[vokiel]

Offer sheeting Seider makes no sense and it won’t work. It’s a nice fantasy but will never happen and even if it did, it would automatically get matched. Redwings will never lose their best player and franchise D.

Seider - Reinbacher - Mailloux makes tons of sense for our RD depth.. Tons lmao!

 

[Miller Time]

Seider - Reinbacher - Mailloux makes tons of sense for our RD depth.. Tons lmao!

If entertaining fantasy lineups, why not Makar-Fox-Seider...

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

you have been playing way to much NHL 2024 on the playstation lol.

Trades aren’t as hard for our new GM, just need to target motivated sellers/buyers and string together more than a single move at a time. Not that I think any of them will happen before the season and likely only the expiring UFAs will be dealt at the TDL.

 

[Mrb1p]

I disagree on the bolded part. I didn't realize Detroit had that much cap space. So yes, I think they would match. Though isn't Raymond due for a new contract as well? If so, Detroit would have a hard time signing both of them. If Sieder signed an offer sheet.

They are not in a good spot capwise. They have 17 millions in cap space, yes, but they have to sign two star players in Seider and Raymond. They can go 9/7 on Seider/Raymond but 11.7 + 7. complicated things a lot more for them.

 

[Habs10Habs]

They are not in a good spot capwise. They have 17 millions in cap space, yes, but they have to sign two star players in Seider and Raymond. They can go 9/7 on Seider/Raymond but 11.7 + 7. complicated things a lot more for them.

Agreed, but as WTK pointed out. They have players like Holl, who they could attach a draft pick, too create space. It wouldn't be pleasant for them, but definitely doable.

 

[Mrb1p]

Agreed, but as WTK pointed out. They have players like Holl, who they could attach a draft pick, too create space. It wouldn't be pleasant for them, but definitely doable.

Yes, but then they have to weigh the fact that they'll have to overpay Seider by 2-3 millions, theyll have to pay to get rid of Holl or whatever and they will have to give up 4 1st.

It costs nothing on our part and it costs them something. It's like destroying an airport terminal during a war, it's not something you can't get over but it's something that might win you the war in the end.