HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Boss Man Hughes]

Hutson got less points in two games than Ryan Poehling got in his first game.

Who cares? Points were irrelevant. It's what they showed in their short audition.

 

[ZUKI]

*Roy and Dach are uncertainties in terms of health.
*Talks about adding Laine.

Some people are born with the innate faculty to make absolutely no sense.

When Chelios has been traded to chicago, a lot of fans were telling that his knees were finished...
Koivu during the first years of his career was always injured . Same for Markov....

All the NHL players are uncertainties in term of health; Hockey is a sport with speed and big contacts ... But to conclude that X Y or Z are going to be injured because they have been injured in the past and that others won't because they were safe until now , is just cute in a conversation . Injuries are not a destiny , not part of the Big Schema of Life, they just happen.

N.B. Next time, could you keep comment as" Some people are born .....bla bla " out of the forum. Respect the opinion of other fans.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I'd prefer switching up the bottom two lines.

Roy-Newhook-Armia
Dvorak-Evans-Gallagher

Anderson is injury replacement or gets the Laval treatment - to rekindle the fire.

The bottom 6 may as well be a blender depending on who performs and who doesn’t.

 

[yianik]

Savard was not getting traded last deadline unless an overwhelming offer was made. At least a 1st round pick. He probably will be at this deadline if he is marketable.

I think that is likely.

 

[calder candidate]

If we trade Anderson + for Laine, I'm 100% in. Columbus need to retain salary for 2 years though because Laine can't be pay more than Suzuki.

That doesn't matter (KH didn't sign this deal) you just can't resign him or any other player to bigger deal, and if we do it as to be worth upsetting that balance.
I rather acquire Laine at a discount and paying is full salary than having to give up more value for them to retain...

 

[eklund the clown]

That doesn't matter (KH didn't sign this deal) you just can't resign him or any other player to bigger deal, and if we do it as to be worth upsetting that balance.
I rather acquire Laine at a discount and paying is full salary than having to give up more value for them to retain...

What is this silly premise that we can't pay anyone more than Suzuki? I love Suzuki but if we get Mcdavid,or some other superstar do you honestly think they will take less money because Nick Suzuki is on the team?

 

[Essenege]

If Mailloux is better then Struble and Barron in camp, Struble will be sent down and Barron kept as 7 (or 8th) D.

I can see us carry 8D and 13F

Matheson-Guhle
Hutson-Savard
Xhekaj-Mailloux

Harris
Barron

It’s a nice problem to have.

 

[Tyson]

If Mailloux is better then Struble and Barron in camp, Struble will be sent down and Barron kept as 7 (or 8th) D.

I can see us carry 8D and 13F

Matheson-Guhle
Hutson-Savard
Xhekaj-Mailloux

Harris
Barron

It’s a nice problem to have.

I am telling you guys that the pairing of Mailloux with Xhekaj was excellent last season in Laval. That is a legitimate NHL future pairing.

 

[WinterLion]

If Mailloux is better then Struble and Barron in camp, Struble will be sent down and Barron kept as 7 (or 8th) D.

I can see us carry 8D and 13F

Matheson-Guhle
Hutson-Savard
Xhekaj-Mailloux

Harris
Barron

It’s a nice problem to have.

Mailloux is a beast and has played a full AHL season... definitely a possibility.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Blind and delusional, there solved it for you.

1 - Why would Hutson sign a contract when he could have stayed in college?

You might do that too at age 20 if you had a legit chance at a one million dollar salary within a year or so.

2 - So who do you send on PP2 instead of Hutson? Barron?

Maybe, but there is also Guhle or Xhekaj or even Mailloux if he makes the team.

3 - Quinn Hughes was not Quinn Hughes after 2 games. No amount of AHL time will make him more ready for the NHL. He ain't Reinbacher or Mailloux, let him evolve where the talent is.

He ain't Reinbacher or Mailloux, that's for sure.

They can skate backwards way better than Lane.

They can defend better than Lane.

Mailloux has offensive skill as well as size and truculence.

Reinbacher has more experience against men.

Both are much faster than Lane.

Hutson is slippery and very creative but an NHL top-4 D needs a lot more than that. It will take him a while to acquire those additional skills. Let's be patient. I'd be happy for him to win the Calder Cup this year

 

[Scintillating10]

If Mailloux is better then Struble and Barron in camp, Struble will be sent down and Barron kept as 7 (or 8th) D.

I can see us carry 8D and 13F

Matheson-Guhle
Hutson-Savard
Xhekaj-Mailloux

Harris
Barron

It’s a nice problem to have.

Possible yes, but where Mailloux has options. May have to let him season a bit more

 

[ReHabs]

Zegras... nah
Necas... nah
McGroarty... nah
Laine... nah

Joshua Roy... yup that's the one and if anyone in the top6 goes down to injury (a super rare occurrence, as we know) we can always slot in Sean Farrell. No need to acquire anybody. We have Michael Hage and Ivan Demidov coming in the future. Let's just sit tight while the Habs once again score the least number of goals in the Atlantic Division and are out of the playoff race by Christmas. It's called PROGRESS.

 

[SOLR]

You might do that too at age 20 if you had a legit chance at a one million dollar salary within a year or so.



Maybe, but there is also Guhle or Xhekaj or even Mailloux if he makes the team.


He ain't Reinbacher or Mailloux, that's for sure.

They can skate backwards way better than Lane.

They can defend better than Lane.

Mailloux has offensive skill as well as size and truculence.

Reinbacher has more experience against men.

Both are much faster than Lane.

Hutson is slippery and very creative but an NHL top-4 D needs a lot more than that. It will take him a while to acquire those additional skills. Let's be patient. I'd be happy for him to win the Calder Cup this year

He's not just slippery he's elite slippery.
He's elite IQ.
He's elite stickhandling.

You can't have the same road for specialist players with 0.1% abilities vs. players who are generalists.

Neither Mailloux nor Reinbacher (who might be more valuable in the end) need NHLers surrounding them to progress. Lane does.

There is no spots open for Reinbacher or Mailloux, as long as Guhle plays RD and Savard is here. There is a 2nd LD spot open, you think Harris will take it? Xhekaj? Why is there a 2nd LD spot open, it's as if they opened that spot for someone who could play with Savard....? Who is that? There is no other name.

 

[Benstheman]

lol at people thinking Hutson won’t make the team from training camp.

I will say something though. He will sit a certain amount of games because he is not physically ready to play 82 games.

 

[SOLR]

lol at people thinking Hutson won’t make the team from training camp.

I will say something though. He will sit a certain amount of games because he is not physically ready to play 82 games.

I'd say since he turned 20, he wasn't far from ready fitness wise, give him another summer...the Lane we'll see in October will already be quite different from the Lane we saw in March. Folks forget the amount of change that happens in 20 years old in a short periods of time.

And 5'8'' players are not hitting a VO2 fitness wall that 6'3'' have to overcome. Lane went through that wall at 17.

 

[Shutdown]

lol at people thinking Hutson won’t make the team from training camp.

I will say something though. He will sit a certain amount of games because he is not physically ready to play 82 games.

he might not make it out of camp only due to the number of bodies on D. we carried three goalies last season until KH was happy with the trade return that made itself available. good thing is it's a lot easier to showcase defensemen for a trade than it is a goalie so that situation would probably resolve itself a lot more quickly.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Zegras... nah
Necas... nah
McGroarty... nah
Laine... nah

Joshua Roy... yup that's the one and if anyone in the top6 goes down to injury (a super rare occurrence, as we know) we can always slot in Sean Farrell. No need to acquire anybody. We have Michael Hage and Ivan Demidov coming in the future. Let's just sit tight while the Habs once again score the least number of goals in the Atlantic Division and are out of the playoff race by Christmas. It's called PROGRESS.

Sorry, were you saying something?

Still waiting on you to answer that basic question. Odd that you seem to be doing everything you can to avoid it.

 

[ReHabs]

Sorry, we’re you saying something?

Still waiting on you to answer that basic question. Odd that you seem to be doing everything you can to avoid it.

Joshua Roy for the Calder Trophy 2025. It'll happen, he just needs a clear path and ZERO internal competition for his spot. Better not put a hockey player under any pressure to perform. This is called good development.

Laine is a headcase with a high caphit, that's why we shouldn't acquire him... or Zegras, or Necas, or Rutger McGroarty who is none of those things. I'm definitely not a tankist wink wink.

Just realised... by "basic question" you mean a senseless point projection? I've already responded, I don't do that. Move from that BS.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Joshua Roy for the Calder Trophy 2025. It'll happen, he just needs a clear path and ZERO internal competition for his spot. Better not put a hockey player under any pressure to perform. This is called good development.

Laine is a headcase with a high caphit, that's why we shouldn't acquire him... or Zegras, or Necas, or Rutger McGroarty who is none of those things. I'm definitely not a tankist wink wink.

Just realised... by "basic question" you mean a senseless point projection? I've already responded, I don't do that. Move from that BS.

Yeah,

That’s what I figured.

 

[ReHabs]

Yeah,

That’s what I figured.

Let me know when you can respond to the ultra-simplified breakdown I made for you. I even numbered and named the premises. Link to post #2,879

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Let me know when you can respond to the ultra-simplified breakdown I made for you. I even numbered and named the premises. Link to post #2,879

I’m done with you. If you want me to take you seriously, make more serious posts.

You come in, scream that our top six sucks and when challenged in it, won’t tell us how you think they’ll produce. This reveals your dishonesty in terms of how you post here.

I’ve exposed it and that’s satisfaction enough for me.

Carry on with your ‘sky is falling’ nonsense.

 

[ReHabs]

I’m done with you. If you want me to take you seriously, make more serious posts.

You come in, scream that our top six sucks and when challenged in it, won’t tell us how you think they’ll produce. This reveals your dishonesty in terms of how you post here.

I’ve exposed it and that’s satisfaction enough for me.

Carry on with your ‘sky is falling’ nonsense.

I said I want to add someone to the Top6... plenty of other commentators agree with the notion. We're having fun speculating about the fit of possible additions -- as we have done since the season ended and the rumours of Zegras et al. came up. Who's screaming? Nobody. Get a grip.

The moment the argument is laid out and you have to actually engage with a substantive point-by-point presentation you decide to cut bait. Dishonesty? Not sure why you even engaged with me today, it was clear our conversation ended when you avoided the actual discussion yesterday.

 

[Andy]

I watched the video @Lafleurs Guy posted of Hutson's shifts against Detroit. I forgot how impressive he was. So much poise, confidence, and ability to create and find open ice.

Haven't seen a habs d-man do that since Subban and Markov.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I watched the video @Lafleurs Guy posted of Hutson's shifts against Detroit. I forgot how impressive he was. So much poise, confidence, and ability to create and find open ice.

Haven't seen a habs d-man do that since Subban and Markov.

In his second NHL game too.

It reminds me of when Subban first came up. Just brimming with confidence and doing things guys aren’t supposed to be able to do in their first NHL games.

I hope he’s added some muscle because he could be huge for us down the road.

Btw, here are the highlights from his very first game:

 

[Whalers Fan]

Zegras... nah
Necas... nah
McGroarty... nah
Laine... nah

Joshua Roy... yup that's the one and if anyone in the top6 goes down to injury (a super rare occurrence, as we know) we can always slot in Sean Farrell. No need to acquire anybody. We have Michael Hage and Ivan Demidov coming in the future. Let's just sit tight while the Habs once again score the least number of goals in the Atlantic Division and are out of the playoff race by Christmas. It's called PROGRESS.

The only one of the above four players that I personally would be interested in the Habs acquiring would be McGroarty. I don't think Carolina is interested in trading Necas anymore after all their UFA defections, Laine I have discussed before (too in jury-prone to take the risk based on what Columbus will probably want), and Zegras would be adding another offense-only forward when the team already has Caufield and Demidov soon.

McGroarty would give the Habs a bigger, grittier addition to the forward group, and at probably the least cost. Of course, he also poses some risk since he is still a prospect who hasn't played a single game as a pro. I just think he would be the best fit, and worth the gamble.