HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[themilosh]

Geez the Real Sam Pollock is rolling over in his grave with that offer lol

Yeah i wouldn't offer that.. mainly bc those oueces could be used for multiple assets.
But to bring in EP, van will be looking fir CC in return. What would make this yrade amazing, if Hugo can can add in (cost) to make the trade equal.
Like CC +Dvorak for EP.

 

[salbutera]

$11.6 mil for a complimentary C is not good. What is Demidov going to ask for when his contract comes up? Laine? I don't want a TML cap issue here.

I just don't think Petterson is the guy, but I understand your POV.

Ultimate question - is Pettersson the 90-100pts elite C or 70pts complementary C?

 

[EveryDay]

Way too much

He average 95 points in his last 2 season, how many center are better then him in the league?

He's a star and outside of Price and Roy he wouldbe mtl best player since who? Richer? Lafleur?

 

[eklund the clown]

Let's get real here guys.The Canucks are not going to get the stash that some on here are offering.If any of the talk is true that they are tired of EP and want to get rid of him there are a few issues here.First is he has tailed of considerably on his production this year.Oh and Pettersson is in the first year of his eight-year, $92.8 million .So whatever team picks him up and if things don't work out as they are right now in Vancouver they are stuck with this guy for 8 years at $11.4 mil per

 

[EveryDay]

Ultimate question - is Pettersson the 90-100pts elite C or 70pts complementary C?

He's not a complimentary player.... he's playing 1st pp, 1st pk and near 20 per game. He's a star.

 

[26Mats]

Puljujarvi may be a better 13th forward than Pez right now. But he shouldn't take anyone out of the top 12 at the moment.

He could potentially be useful after players like Armia and Dvo are traded at the TDL. May be worth claiming if he's willing to sit for a while.

 

[Treb]

Puljujarvi may be a better 13th forward than Pez right now. But he shouldn't take anyone out of the top 12 at the moment.

He could potentially be useful after players like Armia and Dvo are traded at the TDL. May be worth claiming if he's willing to sit for a while.

He's not useful in the bottom 6.

At least Pezz brings physicality.

 

[26Mats]

He's not useful in the bottom 6.

At least Pezz brings physicality.

I actually wonder how he's do with Laine and Dach.

Newhook I see as a bottom sixer, though it sounds like he's been making contributions in the top 6 that don't show up on the score sheet. I haven't been able to watch recently.

 

[Treb]

I actually wonder how he's do with Laine and Dach.

Newhook I see as a bottom sixer, though it sounds like he's been making contributions in the top 6 that don't show up on the score sheet. I haven't been able to watch recently.

Puljujarvi s not better than Newhook or Gallagher in that spot.

 

[26Mats]

Puljujarvi s not better than Newhook or Gallagher in that spot.

Could be. Gally is someone I'd also be interested to see there.

 

[Richiebottles]

Were we actually in on PLD?

If the org still thinks we need help at C I could see them swinging for the fences and getting EP40 to bring us over the hump and into the playoffs.

That would also mean that Evans wouldn't be back....

 

[salbutera]

He's not a complimentary player.... he's playing 1st pp, 1st pk and near 20 per game. He's a star.

This is his 7th NHL season first 4-seasons was a mid-60pts player and he’s on pace for 68pts this season after 89 & 100pts seasons - also coming off a poor playoffs showing last spring

 

[Apfel Struble]

What are you guys thoughts on acquiring Filip Forsberg? That contract is scary as hell, but that would make him cheaper to acquire

He’s 30 and probably has a good 4 or 5 more years of solid hockey to give. Frequently injured though…

If we have Demidov as a C or if Dach rapidly gets back on track, that’s two good lines

I’d probably try some solid RD instead but acquiring a great veteran winger would be much cheaper and would fill a need IMO

 

[ReHabs]

Interesting conundrum coming up for Hughes and Gorton: A sizeable part of the recent success of the Habs falls squarely on the bottom 6. The Dvorak line is good to very good night-in night-out while the Evans line has been borderline unplayable for opposing teams recently. Half of that difference-making bottom 6 might also be gone this offseason

There is a fine line to thread here. We don't want to see Hughes go full Yzerman (or even worse... Lamoriello), but make no mistake, if all three of Dvorak, Armia and Evans are gone this offseason, the Habs will be much, much worse to start the next season baring the acquisition of an excellent veteran 3C

I'd say at least one of the UFAs will be re-signed.

• Armia is IMO the likeliest to stay with a 2 years deal at a slight discount compared to now, I'd say I'm 80% sure he stays. He seems to love it here and plays a very thankless role for the Habs. This is a player type that is pretty hard to find, the puck controlling powerforward.
• Then would come Evans with a 50% chance. He'll sign a contract worth 20 millions or more, it's his occasion to cash in. I'm not sure Hughes will be the one to give it though. If he wants a competitive team next season, he has to either find a good replacement or re-sign Evans.
• Dvorak I'd give a 10-20% chance of re-signing. His time here has been blighted by injuries, underperformance and more injuries. Despite being the scapegoat of the fanbase, he's playing some good hockey right now and a rookie would probably do significantly worse than him on a 3rd line. He also seems like a great dude, his teamates really like him.
• Savard I'd give a 10-20% chance, same as Dvorak. The Habs need a RD, but he's declining and I find that Xhekaj has bailed him out a lot this season.

The challenge will be the Evans case of course. If Hughes decides not to re-sign him and to replace him internally, one of Newhook, Beck or Demidov would replace him. He'd also need to either re-sign Dvorak or acquire another bottom 6 C on the UFA market. Replacing both 3C and 4C internally is a catastrophe waiting to happen. The better solution to me would be sign a shutdown C and play one of Beck or Demidov (or even both) on a more offensively inclined line with Armia while Gallagher, Anderson and the new C would be the shutdown line

How about none of them stay and the Habs use their considerable asset base and cap space to acquire younger, fitter grinder options.

 

[26Mats]

What are you guys thoughts on acquiring Filip Forsberg? That contract is scary as hell, but that would make him cheaper to acquire

He’s 30 and probably has a good 4 or 5 more years of solid hockey to give. Frequently injured though…

If we have Demidov as a C or if Dach rapidly gets back on track, that’s two good lines

I’d probably try some solid RD instead but acquiring a great veteran winger would be much cheaper and would fill a need IMO

Who does he replace in the top 6:

Caufield Suzuki Slafkovsky
Laine Dach Demidov

I suppose Dach could slide down to the 3rd line.

 

[EveryDay]

This is his 7th NHL season first 4-seasons was a mid-60pts player and he’s on pace for 68pts this season - coming off a poor playoffs showing

440 points in 441 games while playing better then Suzuki at both end of the rink.

His first 2 season in the league at 19 yo.

66 pts in 68 gamed
66 pts in 71 games

In his 3rd season he was injured and missed more then half the season. His 4th season was his worst 68 pts but still 32 goals.

After that he explode for 102 and 89 pts.

This year its not going well but I believe he will be ppg at the end the season, he's just so talented.... look who was his winger this year and the previous 2 season.

 

[Apfel Struble]

How about none of them stay and the Habs use their considerable asset base and cap space to acquire younger, fitter grinder options.

Grass isn’t always greener. Our old UFAs are dunking on said fitter options at the moment. Their play is unsustainable sure, but acquiring the absolute best bottom 6ers is a contender move as these guys cost 1st rounders

I’m not sure the team is proven and good enough to do that at the moment

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Welp hopefully youre on Hugos trusted circle. I tend to acknowledge your scouting posts as fact, so if you say he needs to go, i agree.

I only fear that the longer he stays the lower his value will become. Think Barron.

If I was in Hughes’ inner circle, I would be whispering into his ear that Mailloux should be converted to a skilled, power forward. Maybe it would be more of a shout as this kid is barely an AHL level defenceman.

Geez the Real Sam Pollock is rolling over in his grave with that offer lol

I’m rolling over in my grave reading that offer. And I’m not even dead yet. But if that proposed deal went through it would kill me.

 

[Deus ex machina]

How about none of them stay and the Habs use their considerable asset base and cap space to acquire younger, fitter grinder options.

Good idea in theory, but easier said than done.

 

[Apfel Struble]

The Pettersson talk is entertaining, but let's get real for a second, if someone is getting traded, it's J. T. Miller. You trade the guys who's 5 years older and who seemingly has an expiration date in all the locker rooms he was in

If we see the Canucks make a trade, it will probably be Miller traded to Boston, NYR, Vegas or Carolina

 

[sampollock]

Geez the Real Sam Pollock is rolling over in his grave with that offer lol

What would you give. rein is a nobody yet

 

[Paddy17]

The Pettersson talk is entertaining, but let's get real for a second, if someone is getting traded, it's J. T. Miller. You trade the guys who's 5 years older and who seemingly has an expiration date in all the locker rooms he was in

If we see the Canucks make a trade, it will probably be Miller traded to Boston, NYR, Vegas or Carolina

I could see the potential for a VAN-NYR deal centered around a Miller-Kreider swap.

The Canucks would likely choose Petersson instead of Miller.

 

[EveryDay]

The Pettersson talk is entertaining, but let's get real for a second, if someone is getting traded, it's J. T. Miller. You trade the guys who's 5 years older and who seemingly has an expiration date in all the locker rooms he was in

If we see the Canucks make a trade, it will probably be Miller traded to Boston, NYR, Vegas or Carolina

Miller have a NMC, he's not going anywhere.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

The Pettersson talk is entertaining, but let's get real for a second, if someone is getting traded, it's J. T. Miller. You trade the guys who's 5 years older and who seemingly has an expiration date in all the locker rooms he was in

If we see the Canucks make a trade, it will probably be Miller traded to Boston, NYR, Vegas or Carolina

I doubr it. The GM just told Petterson to grow up. If they don't think he will ever mature they could move him.

 

[Apfel Struble]

Miller have a NMC, he's not going anywhere.

Unless he accepts to waive it, which I'm sure he would do to go to a high profile American team. I chose these teams because they are all highly coveted destinations I'm he'd waive his NMC for. Vegas has low taxes too and has cap space with the injuries