HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[Pompeius Magnus]

I'd be 100% willing to give up the farm for an established 26 years old top center with a long term deal. Pettersson has his warts, but he would be a franchise altering add.

 

[eklund the clown]

Maybe the real problem in Vancouver is behind the bench

 

[Goalfield13]

I'd be 100% willing to give up the farm for an established 26 years old top center with a long term deal. Petterson has his warts, but he would be a franchise altering add.

I want Petterson too, but it makes me very weary trading for a 26 year old C when the team trading him chose a 31 year old C over him. If Petterson isn't their cornerstone, I am not going to pay out the nose for him to find out he has crabs along with the warts.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I want Petterson too, but it makes me very weary trading for a 26 year old C when the team trading him chose a 31 year old C over him. If Petterson isn't their cornerstone, I am not going to pay out the nose for him to find out he has crabs along with the warts.

There's a cream for those, no worries

 

[morhilane]

If Petey were a more consistent player and there weren't so many locker room issues with him, I'd agree with you. Seems like there's some sort of drama that revolves around this guy every year and I'm not sure we should have our group involved in it.

Alvin's latest comments was a GM destroying his star player's value. They are either trying to light a fire under his ass or they want him gone ASAP.

 

[Goalfield13]

There's a cream for those, no worries

I am perfectly fine applying all the ointment we need as long as Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Demidov, Hage, Guhle and Hutson are not part of this trade.

 

[Deebs]

Alvin's latest comments was a GM destroying his star player's value. They are either trying to light a fire under his ass or they want him gone ASAP.

Sure. It doesn't change the facts there are issues with this player and have been for quite some time. Do we want this in our seemingly stable and cohesive locker room....I'm thinking probably not. However, there are always three sides to every story and unfortunately we'll never know the truth, that's something for Hughes to find out

 

[eklund the clown]

With that long term $10 mil contract Petersson has Canucks are not going to get full value for him.How many teams could take that contract cap wise.They would have to take back salary

 

[Goalfield13]

Damn, this guy is making $11.6 mil!? OK, now I understand lol. My initial trade offer stands. Not a pezzetta more!

 

[Deebs]

I am perfectly fine applying all the ointment we need as long as Caufield, Suzuki, Slaf, Demidov, Hage, Guhle and Hutson are not part of this trade.

Then you don't get him.

 

[Goalfield13]

Then you don't get him.

Good.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I'd be 100% willing to give up the farm for an established 26 years old top center with a long term deal. Pettersson has his warts, but he would be a franchise altering add.

Maybe.

You're hoping it's the noise in Vancouver of being dealt and the potential rift in the locker room that's causing Petterson to be more of a high 60s centre than a high 80s centre.

He may also have an aversion to Canadian teams after this, too.

 

[Riggins]

I feel petterson is very soft. But he can put points up, if though he is soft and shys away is that what habs need?
It would also drain the prospect pool and picks to get him

but that is just me.
like to hear others thoughts.

I live in Vancouver. Pettersson has had times where he has been a top 10 C but patience is wearing thin. He was a complete ghost in the playoffs and they used the excuse of a lingering injury for that.

He also has the personality of a wet blanket and isn't the type of guy you want to add to a young locker room. His contract is downright scary at 11.6M for 8 years for a guy who now goes long stretches doing absolutely nothing.

 

[DAChampion]

Then you don't get him.

People say what you say every time a great player is about to get traded, but it's usually not true.

See the ROR, Eichel, and Kessel trades for example. Or the Timo Meier trade.

Or the Taylor Hall and Patrick Laine trades, for that matter. A lot changes when the player has a high cap hit.

 

[Goalfield13]

There's been so much drama around this guy. The same could be said about Laine; however, Laine only had two years left on his contract and the trade value was super low. That was a good risk. We are building something good here. I think we should just stay out of it. I am a very risk-averse person in general.

 

[crosbyshow]

J.T Miller is 5 f... years older than Pettersson.

Vancouver would be crazy to keep Miller between the 2..Miller is 31 years old.

Pettersson is not in the same situation of Huberdeau.

The day of the trade I was like..jeez Calgary are crazy to trade a 24 yrars old in Tkachuk for a 29 years old in Huberdeau...5 years difference is huge for forwards.

Petterson is 26 so a.lot yonger than Huberdeau.

However Pettersson suffered of at least 2 concussions so far..

 

[DAChampion]

There's been so much drama around this guy. The same could be said about Laine; however, Laine only had two years left on his contract and the trade value was super low. That was a good risk. We are building something good here. I think we should just stay out of it. I am a very risk-averse person in general.

Yes and that's why HuGo didn't need to give up Dach, Mailloux, Beck, and a 1st for Laine.

 

[Goalfield13]

J.T Miller is 5 f... years older than Pettersson.

Vancouver would be crazy to keep Miller between the 2..Miller is 31 years old.

Pettersson is not in the same situation of Huberdeau.

The day of the trade I was like..jeez Calgary are crazy to trade a 24 yrars old in Tkachuk for a 29 years old in Huberdeau...5 years difference is huge for forwards.

Petterson is 26 so a.lot yonger than Huberdeau.

However Pettersson suffered of at least 2 concussions so far..

They may be crazy... Or... They know something we don't. The Canucks don't strike me as an org that is going to give up on a young superstar like this when they have a ravenous fanbase to answer to. Maybe they are idiots. That's always possible.

BTW, the situation in Calgary was way different. Tkachuk let them know he wasn't staying. They didn't have a choice, and they made the best trade they could.

Yes and that's why HuGo didn't need to give up Dach, Mailloux, Beck, and a 1st for Laine.

Right, it was a good trade in general. A trade for Petterson makes my stomach turn a bit. There's something not right here.

 

[ReHabs]

I live in Vancouver. Pettersson has had times where he has been a top 10 C but patience is wearing thin. He was a complete ghost in the playoffs and they used the excuse of a lingering injury for that.

He also has the personality of a wet blanket and isn't the type of guy you want to add to a young locker room. His contract is downright scary at 11.6M for 8 years for a guy who now goes long stretches doing absolutely nothing.

The coin flip is that it *could* be the case he needs a new environment. Insulated behind Suzuki, for example.

Sometimes organizations simply turn on an otherwise “innocent” player. We saw how two doofuses turned on Subban and derailed a very successful career.

It’s a fascinating question. I wouldn’t want to get it wrong if I was Kenny Hughes.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

The coin flip is that it *could* be the case he needs a new environment. Insulated behind Suzuki, for example.

Sometimes organizations simply turn on an otherwise “innocent” player. We saw how two doofuses turned on Subban and derailed a very successful career.

It’s a fascinating question. I wouldn’t want to get it wrong if I was Kenny Hughes.

Do you want to pay 11.6M for a player who needs to be insulated behind your other C?

 

[Goalfield13]

The coin flip is that it *could* be the case he needs a new environment. Insulated behind Suzuki, for example.

It’s a fascinating question. I wouldn’t want to get it wrong if I was Kenny Hughes.

We are going to have a trade a lot for a guy that could ruin our cap structure and potentially our locker room. Huge risk. I think I would rather just see if Dach, Hage or Demidov can be the 2C we need the next few years instead.

 

[Riggins]

The coin flip is that it *could* be the case he needs a new environment. Insulated behind Suzuki, for example.

Sometimes organizations simply turn on an otherwise “innocent” player. We saw how two doofuses turned on Subban and derailed a very successful career.

It’s a fascinating question. I wouldn’t want to get it wrong if I was Kenny Hughes.

Yeah but that new environment is probably somewhere like Carolina, not an even worse pressure cooker than Vancouver in Montreal. He's proven to be physically and mentally weak with the Canucks, not a guy I'd be looking to add at 11.6M for 8 years. That could kill the rebuild before it's off the ground.

 

[ReHabs]

Do you want to pay 11.6M for a player who needs to be insulated behind your other C?

The cap hit doesn’t scare me as much as the understanding the root Problem. I’m not desperate to acquire him, that’s for sure.

And by insulate I meant as in personality and leadership. Miller and Tocchet are culturally distinct from EP, I think Suzuki could mesh better with him and take on the more traditional leadership role despite having the smaller cap hit.

We are going to have a trade a lot for a guy that could ruin our cap structure and potentially our locker room. Huge risk. I think I would rather just see if Dach, Hage or Demidov can be the 2C we need the next few years instead.

Sure seems fair but at one point the Habs will have to gamble to acquire extra talent and it will be “expensive” and it will be a risk to our locker room.

Chicago signed Hossa to a gigantic deal. It was a risk too. Lots of criticisms then of him and his personality (all BS, of course).

At this point I’m most interested in understand what EP even is. A 70pt 2C or is he actually a 100pt 1C who’s lost his form?

 

[Goalfield13]

The cap hit doesn’t scare me as much as the understanding the root Problem. I’m not desperate to acquire him, that’s for sure.

And by insulate I meant as in personality and leadership. Miller and Tocchet are culturally distinct from EP, I think Suzuki could mesh better with him and take on the more traditional leadership role despite having the smaller cap hit.


Sure seems fair but at one point the Habs will have to gamble to acquire extra talent and it will be “expensive” and it will be a risk to our locker room.

Chicago signed Hossa to a gigantic deal. It was a risk too. Lots of criticisms then of him and his personality (all BS, of course).

At this point I’m most interested in understand what EP even is. A 70pt 2C or is he actually a 100pt 1C who’s lost his form?

I understand, but I think Laine, Hutson and Demidov is enough talent infusion at this point. We don't need Petterson. Hage is also a good bet to be a 2C as well. We need some vet help on RD. That is what I would focus on at this point.

 

[ReHabs]

Yeah but that new environment is probably somewhere like Carolina, not an even worse pressure cooker than Vancouver in Montreal.

If he’s not meant to be the superstar he won’t have superstar pressure. See Laine.

That said there will be pressure issues due to his cap hit, it comes with massive expectations, for sure. But if it completes our top6 and gives us a two-way C, we could make it work if necessary.

He's proven to be physically and mentally weak with the Canucks, not a guy I'd be looking to add at 11.6M for 8 years. That could kill the rebuild before it's off the ground.

Not a fair take.

He hadn’t missed a game until just last week. How has he proven to be physically weak?

I understand, but I think Laine, Hutson and Demidov is enough talent infusion at this point. We don't need Petterson. Hage is also a good bet to be a 2C as well. We need some vet help on RD. That is what I would focus on at this point.

I think RD is the priority too but Dach can’t be relied on as a core player. So that leaves Hage (late first round picks are long shots) or Demidov which would still leave a hole in the top6.

We’ve needed a top D and top C all along and it hasn’t changed. Getting one or both could cost a fortune… unless there are strange market opportunities like this one