HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[themilosh]

With that projected defence I would suggest that we would remain a lottery team for the foreseeable future.

Only bc you dont like Mailloux..lol
Ok trade him mesar and picks for Rasmus Anderson. ?

 

[themilosh]

Depends entirely on how the Canucks see him. A cap burden, a distracted-by-the-pressure (ie unreliable in the playoffs), a fallen star, bound to rebound?

If they view the rest of their roster as 'in place' and him as a potential burden (or even a bad influence), they'll be incentivized to get out from under it before the NTC kicks in after this season. Reading between the lines it seems like VAN are not happy with how he's reacted since signing the contract.

The Habs have an interesting opportunity if they want to pursue it... I would definitely ring and ask what's up. What needs evaluation is if there are lingering injury issues plaguing Pettersson or if he somehow burned himself out in VAN and is bound to rebound elsewhere. We could be getting a superstar C if it is the latter condition... or we could be picking up a lemon at a very high cap hit, like a Scott Gomez, if it is the former condition.

It's entirely possible VAN views him as a PLD (like the kings). But i would never see him as a Gomez..

 

[Andy]

Petterson is definitely a player you try to acquire.

I think the habs have assets to make a good offer. I am not sure if they have the assets to make an offer to beat out other teams. I would expect that Vancouver wants nhl ready, high end talent in return. I am thinking Huberdeau-Tkachuk trade. I am not sure we can do that.

 

[themilosh]

What about bringing over Kuznetsov as a Depth 2C? Maybe thats what hugo was scouting too?

Petterson is definitely a player you try to acquire.

I think the habs have assets to make a good offer. I am not sure if they have the assets to make an offer to beat out other teams. I would expect that Vancouver wants nhl ready, high end talent in return. I am thinking Huberdeau-Tkachuk trade. I am not sure we can do that.

Id say CC would need to be the piece moving back..

 

[Andy]

What about bringing over Kuznetsov as a Depth 2C? Maybe thats what hugo was scouting too?


Id say CC would need to be the piece moving back..

Man, I am not sure I make that move. Caufield has really developed into a complete player. Someone on this board mentioned that they are surprised by the lack of praise for the way Caufield has developed and how he's really a threat in multiple ways. I would say it's spot on.

Centres are definitely worth more, and Pettersson is "taller" than Caufield. But Cole has been an absolute stud this year.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Petterson is definitely a player you try to acquire.

I think the habs have assets to make a good offer. I am not sure if they have the assets to make an offer to beat out other teams. I would expect that Vancouver wants nhl ready, high end talent in return. I am thinking Huberdeau-Tkachuk trade. I am not sure we can do that.

He could be our Panarin acquisition. Just worried on him already having difficulty in the Canucks market.

That'd be my best offer:

Gallagher
Newhook
Mailloux
Mesar
CGY 1st 2025
CBJ 2nd 2026

I ain't dealing one of our core player only to disrupt our cap structure.

 

[eklund the clown]

Man, I am not sure I make that move. Caufield has really developed into a complete player. Someone on this board mentioned that they are surprised by the lack of praise for the way Caufield has developed and how he's really a threat in multiple ways. I would say it's spot on.

Centres are definitely worth more, and Pettersson is "taller" than Caufield. But Cole has been an absolute stud this year.

We all love Caufield but for a true star #1 centre like Petersson you have to make that deal.We have been looking for one for how many years now?He's only 26 years old .It's what we need to do.Have to give something to get something

 

[sampollock]

Habs playoffs are set


“I can confirm that the 2025 NHL Draft will take place in Los Angeles on June 27-28 at the Peacock Theatre.

This will be the first decentralized draft where teams will select from their home base while the top set(s) of players will be selected internally at the event.” - Cam Robinson

 

[waitin425]

He could be our Panarin acquisition. Just worried on him already having difficulty in the Canucks market.

That'd be my best offer:

Gallagher
Newhook
Mailloux
Mesar
CGY 1st 2025
CBJ 2nd 2026

I ain't dealing one of our core player only to disrupt our cap structure.

I think Vancouver would likely demand one of our core pieces, as they are not in a rebuild. I wouldn't do it either.

My offer though......

Fowler - Take the chance on Dobes and Monty as our two guys into the future.
Hage - With Petersson - Suzuki moves to #2 centre...Dach to #3 and we have Beck still. Hage is a key piece in getting the deal done IMO and will hurt....but we need to give to get.
2 x 2024 1sts (top 2 protected). As it stands now, they both likely 8-16.

If we need to send cap to make it work....I'm not sure we do....we have plenty to ship.

Slaf - Petersson - Demidov
Laine - Suzuki - Caufield
Heinemen - Dach - Gally
Donkey - Evans - Kapanen

 

[Andy]

He could be our Panarin acquisition. Just worried on him already having difficulty in the Canucks market.

That'd be my best offer:

Gallagher
Newhook
Mailloux
Mesar
CGY 1st 2025
CBJ 2nd 2026

I ain't dealing one of our core player only to disrupt our cap structure.

I would add Dach, Roy, Kapanen, Engstrom, Struble, Tuch to the list as well as possible trade bait

 

[morhilane]

What about bringing over Kuznetsov as a Depth 2C? Maybe thats what hugo was scouting too?

Kuznetsov looks washed out as a 3rd line center in the KHL.

 

[sampollock]

I think Vancouver would likely demand one of our core pieces, as they are not in a rebuild. I wouldn't do it either.

My offer though......

Fowler - Take the chance on Dobes and Monty as our two guys into the future.
Hage - With Petersson - Suzuki moves to #2 centre...Dach to #3 and we have Beck still. Hage is a key piece in getting the deal done IMO and will hurt....but we need to give to get.
2 x 2024 1sts (top 2 protected). As it stands now, they both likely 8-16.

If we need to send cap to make it work....I'm not sure we do....we have plenty to ship.

Slaf - Petersson - Demidov
Laine - Suzuki - Caufield
Heinemen - Dach - Gally
Donkey - Evans - Kapanen

I say VAN moves Miller before Petersson (not saying habs will get Millier but he will be gone)

 

[Andy]

We all love Caufield but for a true star #1 centre like Petersson you have to make that deal.We have been looking for one for how many years now?He's only 26 years old .It's what we need to do.Have to give something to get something

Issue with Petterson is that he has shown a propensity to struggle. Is he the 100 and 90 point player of the previous two seasons or is 70-75 point centre? Or is the Van environment just that toxic?

There is still some gamble and I'm not sure I'd bet caufield

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Issue with Petterson is that he has shown a propensity to struggle. Is he the 100 and 90 point player of the previous two seasons or is 70-75 point centre? Or is the Van environment just that toxic?

There is still some gamble and I'm not sure I'd bet caufield

His underlying stats were very high last 2 seasons too.

 

[sampollock]

Issue with Petterson is that he has shown a propensity to struggle. Is he the 100 and 90 point player of the previous two seasons or is 70-75 point centre? Or is the Van environment just that toxic?

There is still some gamble and I'm not sure I'd bet caufield

I feel petterson is very soft. But he can put points up, if though he is soft and shys away is that what habs need?
It would also drain the prospect pool and picks to get him

but that is just me.
like to hear others thoughts.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

He could be our Panarin acquisition. Just worried on him already having difficulty in the Canucks market.

That'd be my best offer:

Gallagher
Newhook
Mailloux
Mesar
CGY 1st 2025
CBJ 2nd 2026

I ain't dealing one of our core player only to disrupt our cap structure.

quality over quantity you offered a bunch of meh pieces for an elite player its horrible for Vancouver

 

[Deebs]

We all love Caufield but for a true star #1 centre like Petersson you have to make that deal.We have been looking for one for how many years now?He's only 26 years old .It's what we need to do.Have to give something to get something

If Petey were a more consistent player and there weren't so many locker room issues with him, I'd agree with you. Seems like there's some sort of drama that revolves around this guy every year and I'm not sure we should have our group involved in it.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

quality over quantity you offered a bunch of meh pieces for an elite player its horrible for Vancouver

I'm not giving Caufield/Suzuki/Slaf/Guhle for a disgruntled vet who's been declining since his new deal..could be huberdeau 2.0

 

[sampollock]

I'm not giving Caufield/Suzuki/Slaf/Guhle for a disgruntled vet who's been declining since his new deal..could be huberdeau 2.0

agree
can't empty the roster for this cream puff that can score. way to much to give

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I'm not giving Caufield/Suzuki/Slaf/Guhle for a disgruntled vet who's been declining since his new deal..could be huberdeau 2.0

fine with me just saying you will never get someone like Pettersson for scrap pieces like Gallagher,Mesar or Newhook etc

 

[Scotianhab]

CC would be the player going to Van in a Pettersson deal. We would have to send out salary in a deal and they’re not taking Gallagher or Anderson.

 

[Goalfield13]

Dach, Beck, Mailloux and our 1st for Petterson. That's the most I go, and it won't get it done.

 

[sampollock]

Dach, Beck, Mailloux and our 1st for Petterson. That's the most I go, and it won't get it done.

YUP
cant give the farm away

 

[ReHabs]

It's entirely possible VAN views him as a PLD (like the kings). But i would never see him as a Gomez..

If he's suffering from post-concussion or another injury that can plague a career, his acquisition could be Gomez-like. It really depends on where is the problem: mind, body, or soul. I can gamble on EP if his physical stature is up to it.

I don’t think the Huberdeau comparison is fair though. Different play styles. EP a more complete player.

Centres are definitely worth more, and Pettersson is "taller" than Caufield. But Cole has been an absolute stud this year.

I love Caufield and think he has even more ahead of him but you have to give to get.

What other package can the Habs put together to get Pettersson? VAN is in win-now mode but they want a long window. MTL is in win-soon mode.

Assuming EP is not a lemon… and that we want him…

Evans + Caufield for EP and whatever counterbalance

That’s the core of the hypothetical trade I figure

 

[Goalfield13]

YUP
cant give the farm away

I'd be willing to add the Calgary pick as well. They might take a second look, but I think other teams will have more to offer.