HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[BozoTheClown]

At some point, it didn't go well for Max and he was sent down. He was so pissed that when he returned he had a drive and became the top player that he got known for. Maybe that's what they need to do with Dach.

But when Dach joined us, he was good. Esp. when they paired him with CC and Suz. But he got injured and he has sucked this season. He just stopped being physical, he's not being himself. That's why we need a hard ass coach to make him realise this.

We could all tell by Pacioretty’s 3rd season that he was special. Chicago got rid of Dach, a3rd overall after 3 seasons only and is now in his 6th season and look terrible.

I don’t like the fact Chicago gave u on him so fast and I think they saw something that I think we are now seeing. Part of it must be his lack intensity, his nonchalance and his poor work ethic.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Have you seen who the canes coach is?

KK would not get any icetime with poor work ethic.

KK's on-ice work ethic is generally fine. He's the first one to get benched if it isn't. It's his off-ice work ethic that has been questioned particularly summer training.

He's a 2nd/3rd line tweener. He's not good enough offensively to be a true 2nd line center, but his physicality and his willingness to go to the net opens the ice for his linemates particularly Necas. He's not good enough defensively to be a shut down, 3rd line guy like Jordan Staal either.

The guy we're really missing is Monahan. He could carry his own line. There's not much available out there right now.

 

[Treb]

I wonder if we could entice TB in a Primeau for Johansson+ swap? Pretty confident it would be an upgrade for them with a limited cap increase. Also gives them the chance to get a cheap goalie next year as Primeau is still RFA (and they have nothing in the pipeline).

On the Habs side, they would send Johansson on waivers and try Dobes and Hughes as backups.

 

[BozoTheClown]

You're completely wrong on both Pacioretty and Markov. Both had to be sent down and a lot of people and posters here thought Pacioretty would be a bust, until he asked to be sent down and lit it up with Desharnais in the AHL. Markov took off in his third season, but had a really tough year in 2003-2004 after his father's death. Lots of players take time. Chicago let Strome go the same year as Dach and he's become a great player for Washington. Newhook isn't going to be special, but he can become a serviceable and versatile player with time. Dach, we still don't know what we have as he's missed so much time, but he looked like a legitimate top 6 player before the injury.

I knew after a couple of seasons that Markov and Pacioretty were going to be special players and both were already impactful in their 3rd season with Montreal.

Dach and Newhook are in their 6th and 5th seasons and still have not made the impact Max and Andrei had.

So no, I am not wrong, I am actually right.

 

[Andrei79]

I knew after a couple of seasons that Markov and Pacioretty were going to be special players and both were already impactful in their 3rd season with Montreal.

Dach and Newhook are in their 6th and 5th seasons and still have not made the impact Max and Andrei had.

So no, I am not wrong, I am actually right.

No, you would be wrong again. Both started coming into their own in their D+5, I don't know why you would not count the seasons they spent elsewhere after their draft, it's frankly disingenuous not to. Pacioretty in particular was a draft pick many were bashing until he asked to be sent down and made strides in his game. Dach did in his D+4 then got a major injury in his D+5 that has derailed his progress. Newhook was very good down the stretch last year and was pacing for 50 points. Lots of players are looking bad this year due to the team being dysfunctional on the ice, it's hard to make any projections on the roster right now due to it.

 

[BozoTheClown]

No, you would be wrong again. Both started coming into their own in their D+5, I don't know why you would not count the seasons they spent elsewhere after their draft, it's frankly disingenuous not to. Pacioretty in particular was a draft pick many were bashing until he asked to be sent down and made strides in his game. Dach did in his D+4 then got a major injury in his D+5 that has derailed his progress. Newhook was very good down the stretch last year and was pacing for 50 points. Lots of players are looking bad this year due to the team being dysfunctional on the ice, it's hard to make any projections on the roster right now due to it.

I know I am right, but we will agree to disagree.

 

[Kimota]

I wonder if it would be possible to explore CC for B. Tkachuk. One big obstable is I know CC has a no movement and I doubt he would like going to Ottawa.

 

[Weltschmerz]

I wonder if it would be possible to explore CC for B. Tkachuk. One big obstable is I know CC has a no movement and I doubt he would like going to Ottawa.

CC is 23 he can't have a NMC now, and Sens would laugh at that anyway.

 

[Kimota]

CC is 23 he can't have a NMC now, and Sens would laugh at that anyway.

It could be with a package.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I wonder if it would be possible to explore CC for B. Tkachuk. One big obstable is I know CC has a no movement and I doubt he would like going to Ottawa.

If they ever trade Tkachuk, it definitely won't be in Division nevermind a rival.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Yes, since Buffalo, and Guhle is playing better. But Matheson playing on his off side is a disaster in waiting. The guy already have a hard time playing his natural side. Shopping for a rd is essential

Matheson is a very good dman and the criticism around here is embarrassingly ill-informed.

How many of these posters know that Matheson is second in the league in takeaways (he was 1st before the 5 game layoff) and has the best Takeaway:Giveaway ratio of any dman in the top 100 and maybe even the entire league if I could see past the top 100.

Every single game he makes defensive plays that only a handful of dmen even have the ability to make yet he is the whipping boy for those who can't see past the odd gaffe yet miraculously are easily able to do so when Hutson does it who happens to have committed 25% more giveaways than Matheson and has 40% fewer takeaways than Matheson. I think Lane has been fantastic for the most part so I am not s******g on him at all. I have just noticed that the Matheson negativity is often linked to the Hutson hype and it is annoyingly prevalent around here.

Mistakes are going to happen when a player has the puck on his stick as much as Matheson does but the fact is that he does far more good than does bad and to not recognize that is troubling to read/listen to.

So.....If we are fine with the Hutson good/bad trade-off then let's be intellectually honest and put away the pitchforks and torches that are consistently headed Matheson's way and acknowledge the positive disparity between good and bad.

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		Corsi (EV)	Fenwick (EV)	PDO ()		Zone Starts (EV)
Rk	Player	Age	Tm	Pos	GP	CF	CA	CF%	CF% rel	FF	FA	FF%	FF% rel	oiSH%	oiSV%	PDO	oZS%	dZS%	TOI/60	TOI(EV)	TK ▼	GV	E+/-	SAtt.	Thru%
1	Travis Sanheim	28	PHI	D	21	447	480	48.2	4.8	314	323	49.3	4.3	10.9	87.9	98.8	47.9	52.1	25:32	21:37	24	23	1.6	104	47.1
2	Mike Matheson	30	MTL	D	20	328	399	45.1	-1.0	227	278	45.0	-0.2	11.5	85.7	97.2	44.1	55.9	24:05	17:45	22	20	-3.4	87	33.3
3	Cale Makar	26	COL	D	21	470	387	54.8	1.9	316	266	54.3	1.5	10.7	84.9	95.7	64.4	35.6	24:36	19:06	20	33	10.2	161	38.5
4	Jake Sanderson	22	OTT	D	20	421	365	53.6	-0.9	301	254	54.2	-1.3	5.1	87.1	92.3	50.2	49.8	24:35	18:50	20	32	3.3	92	44.6
5	Evan Bouchard	25	EDM	D	22	573	335	63.1	12.0	407	259	61.1	8.8	9.8	86.3	96.1	68.9	31.1	23:54	20:04	18	35	9.7	157	37.6
6	Mitch Marner	27	TOR	RW	20	331	317	51.1	2.2	237	216	52.3	2.0	11.5	90.1	101.6	50.9	49.1	21:36	15:36	18	27	4.5	95	53.7
7	Alex Vlasic	23	CHI	D	21	325	449	42.0	-3.9	234	295	44.2	-1.5	12.0	90.1	102.2	41.5	58.5	23:31	19:14	18	25	-3.1	56	42.9
8	Zach Werenski	27	CBJ	D	20	500	412	54.8	4.8	351	298	54.1	3.8	9.1	91.1	100.2	59.5	40.5	26:05	21:32	16	25	1.3	166	45.8
9	Filip Forsberg	30	NSH	C	21	396	302	56.7	7.5	272	219	55.4	6.9	9.1	86.9	96.0	62.1	37.9	18:56	15:35	16	24	1.6	173	43.4
10	Barclay Goodrow	31	SJS	RW	23	265	291	47.7	3.3	178	204	46.6	2.0	3.4	87.8	91.2	43.6	56.4	15:17	12:06	16	24	-2.3	57	54.4
11	Jaccob Slavin	30	CAR	D	20	422	325	56.5	-6.3	305	240	56.0	-6.6	12.4	89.6	102.0	60.6	39.4	21:26	17:51	16	15	0.9	68	30.9
12	Charlie Coyle	32	BOS	C/RW	22	242	278	46.5	-2.2	168	199	45.8	-2.4	6.3	89.1	95.4	38.6	61.4	17:27	11:50	16	14	-1.8	63	50.8
13	Alex Tuch	28	BUF	RW	21	375	305	55.1	4.3	265	208	56.0	6.7	15.5	87.7	103.2	59.4	40.6	20:08	15:09	15	15	3.3	109	45.9
14	Hampus Lindholm	31	BOS	D	17	263	259	50.4	3.2	188	183	50.7	4.3	9.4	87.6	97.0	44.6	55.4	20:51	15:22	14	30	-0.3	81	43.2
15	Dylan Samberg	26	WPG	D	21	389	367	51.5	3.8	298	266	52.8	5.5	12.1	90.5	102.7	43.9	56.1	20:17	17:42	14	26	1.4	63	42.9
16	Noah Dobson	25	NYI	D	21	448	421	51.6	5.0	339	291	53.8	6.1	8.1	89.9	98.0	53.9	46.1	24:49	20:55	14	23	2.3	119	51.3
17	Mikko Rantanen	28	COL	RW	21	462	370	55.5	3.0	320	250	56.1	4.6	13.8	85.9	99.7	65.0	35.0	22:23	18:26	14	22	8.7	123	52.0
18	Dmitry Kulikov	34	FLA	D	21	369	333	52.6	-1.2	275	254	52.0	0.3	12.3	89.5	101.8	54.1	45.9	20:12	18:26	14	15	4.2	50	40.0
19	MacKenzie Weegar	31	CGY	D	21	427	361	54.2	5.9	278	236	54.1	5.5	7.9	92.8	100.7	49.7	50.3	23:31	18:46	13	43	-0.4	130	43.8
20	Roman Josi	34	NSH	D	21	527	388	57.6	10.4	370	296	55.6	8.7	7.9	85.4	93.3	70.1	29.9	25:26	20:02	13	31	1.8	154	46.8
21	Damon Severson	30	CBJ	D	20	412	349	54.1	3.2	291	245	54.3	3.7	12.4	85.4	97.8	45.3	54.7	21:53	18:02	13	29	4.0	81	45.7
22	Carter Verhaeghe	29	FLA	C	21	374	300	55.5	3.2	273	232	54.1	3.4	7.7	83.9	91.5	53.6	46.4	18:43	15:38	13	26	4.2	145	51.7
23	Mario Ferraro	26	SJS	D	23	359	465	43.6	-2.4	244	336	42.1	-4.5	6.5	89.7	96.3	41.4	58.6	20:33	17:39	13	20	-9.4	59	40.7
24	Adam Fox	26	NYR	D	19	391	300	56.6	12.5	287	214	57.3	12.9	9.8	89.7	99.6	55.2	44.8	22:30	17:40	13	20	2.9	69	36.2
25	J.J. Moser	24	TBL	D	19	314	333	48.5	-2.7	226	232	49.3	-1.3	13.2	92.0	105.2	44.7	55.3	20:54	17:48	13	19	-1.1	56	39.3
26	Kris Letang	37	PIT	D	20	402	384	51.1	-1.0	280	289	49.2	-1.7	7.4	88.0	95.4	55.6	44.4	23:06	18:21	13	18	-3.9	96	52.1
27	Mika Zibanejad	31	NYR	C	19	247	325	43.2	-7.3	181	238	43.2	-7.7	9.8	87.4	97.2	49.4	50.6	18:16	13:14	13	17	-4.5	79	46.8
28	Chandler Stephenson	30	SEA	C	21	313	321	49.4	1.1	210	223	48.5	-0.8	10.4	88.1	98.4	47.2	52.8	20:04	14:53	13	15	-7.5	40	50.0
29	Anže Kopitar	37	LAK	C	21	313	297	51.3	-2.5	212	210	50.2	-6.0	15.0	89.4	104.5	45.4	54.6	19:06	14:50	13	13	-1.1	59	44.1
30	Erik Karlsson	34	PIT	D	23	513	475	51.9	1.3	358	342	51.1	2.3	8.7	86.3	94.9	50.7	49.3	22:43	19:30	12	43	-3.6	155	36.8
31	Rasmus Andersson	28	CGY	D	21	447	501	47.2	-5.5	330	340	49.3	-2.0	9.7	92.0	101.7	45.3	54.7	24:55	20:12	12	32	-1.7	98	38.8
32	Vincent Trocheck	31	NYR	C	19	330	340	49.3	1.3	240	253	48.7	-0.1	10.1	90.5	100.6	51.2	48.8	21:31	16:37	12	32	0.0	78	59.0
33	Thomas Chabot	28	OTT	D	20	472	321	59.5	9.1	338	232	59.3	7.3	9.6	87.1	96.8	63.7	36.3	23:25	19:04	12	30	6.5	126	42.1
34	Colton Parayko	31	STL	D	22	399	501	44.3	-6.7	276	337	45.0	-3.5	8.9	88.6	97.5	38.1	61.9	24:50	21:37	12	30	-4.7	84	50.0
35	Leon Draisaitl	29	EDM	C	22	482	297	61.9	9.1	357	225	61.3	8.5	10.8	88.3	99.1	64.7	35.3	21:15	17:35	12	29	9.6	111	54.1
36	Lane Hutson	20	MTL	D	20	351	429	45.0	-1.2	239	289	45.3	0.3	9.4	86.4	95.8	51.0	49.0	22:56	20:06	12	25	-1.7	71	26.8
37	Mattias Ekholm	34	EDM	D	22	578	336	63.2	12.3	409	256	61.5	9.5	9.7	84.9	94.6	68.1	31.9	23:07	19:40	12	24	11.2	127	47.2
38	Brady Skjei	30	NSH	D	21	402	341	54.1	3.7	284	266	51.6	1.4	9.2	88.0	97.2	62.6	37.4	21:03	17:31	12	24	-3.1	93	46.2
39	Connor Clifton	29	BUF	D	20	227	252	47.4	-6.1	155	177	46.7	-5.9	8.7	92.4	101.1	30.6	69.4	15:39	12:29	12	23	-1.5	52	30.8
40	Shayne Gostisbehere	31	CAR	D	20	390	199	66.2	8.3	279	151	64.9	6.8	8.9	87.3	96.2	63.8	36.2	18:55	14:54	12	18	5.9	106	37.7
41	Jacob Middleton	29	MIN	D	20	340	402	45.8	-3.7	234	283	45.3	-5.4	15.9	94.7	110.6	49.8	50.2	20:26	18:37	12	17	-1.0	56	55.4
42	Owen Tippett	25	PHI	RW	21	308	336	47.8	3.3	210	235	47.2	0.5	7.1	84.7	91.9	48.8	51.2	17:27	14:22	12	17	-0.8	135	42.2
43	Jake Walman	28	SJS	D	18	351	321	52.2	8.1	251	225	52.7	9.1	10.7	89.8	100.5	55.9	44.1	22:41	17:24	12	13	3.7	115	46.1
44	Mikhail Sergachev	26	UTA	D	20	413	333	55.4	2.3	292	244	54.5	2.8	10.8	87.8	98.6	50.4	49.6	25:33	18:20	11	36	0.2	96	34.4
45	Brent Burns	39	CAR	D/RW	20	431	307	58.4	-3.2	310	227	57.7	-3.7	11.2	87.4	98.6	62.0	38.0	21:33	17:28	11	32	1.5	103	38.8
46	Ian Cole	35	UTA	D	20	337	304	52.6	-2.1	229	207	52.5	-0.4	12.2	88.4	100.6	46.9	53.1	20:18	17:05	11	31	-1.7	57	31.6
47	Ivan Provorov	28	CBJ	D	20	453	381	54.3	3.6	323	281	53.5	2.6	9.6	88.9	98.5	51.6	48.4	23:43	19:40	11	30	0.5	83	33.7
48	Shea Theodore	29	VEG	D	20	357	379	48.5	1.7	243	272	47.2	-1.6	9.9	88.6	98.6	55.9	44.1	22:17	18:59	11	28	2.2	97	43.3
49	Esa Lindell	30	DAL	D	19	322	339	48.7	-7.7	239	238	50.1	-3.9	10.2	90.9	101.1	41.9	58.1	21:51	18:15	11	27	0.6	60	48.3
50	Charlie McAvoy	27	BOS	D	22	364	372	49.5	2.1	254	269	48.6	1.6	9.9	91.5	101.4	60.6	39.4	24:02	17:41	11	27	-0.1	93	48.4
51	Jack Hughes	23	NJD	C	23	449	361	55.4	9.8	307	257	54.4	8.6	9.8	90.8	100.6	73.8	26.2	20:30	16:33	11	26	6.6	146	50.7
52	Wyatt Kaiser	22	CHI	D	19	270	286	48.6	6.4	192	190	50.3	7.2	5.1	94.4	99.5	46.0	54.0	17:03	15:18	11	26	-0.5	47	38.3
53	Ryan Graves	29	PIT	D	20	263	269	49.4	-3.0	189	194	49.3	-1.5	4.9	88.4	93.3	38.1	61.9	15:19	13:31	11	25	2.6	55	32.7
54	Oliver Ekman-Larsson	33	TOR	D	20	368	350	51.3	2.6	265	253	51.2	0.3	10.1	90.9	101.0	61.8	38.2	21:09	17:39	11	24	0.8	82	46.3
55	Mikael Backlund	35	CGY	C	21	346	323	51.7	2.0	247	221	52.8	3.4	8.8	92.9	101.7	34.6	65.4	19:40	15:15	11	22	0.9	104	53.8
56	Kirill Marchenko	24	CBJ	RW	20	382	282	57.5	7.9	282	210	57.3	8.0	11.9	90.2	102.1	56.3	43.7	18:13	15:37	11	22	6.4	102	50.0
57	Matt Boldy	23	MIN	LW	20	344	286	54.6	9.5	251	202	55.4	10.1	12.4	91.3	103.7	42.2	57.8	19:31	15:36	11	17	3.3	138	52.2
58	Ondřej Palát	33	NJD	LW	22	266	296	47.3	-2.8	175	223	44.0	-6.4	7.8	91.5	99.3	58.2	41.8	13:25	12:47	11	16	-1.7	50	56.0
59	Connor Brown	31	EDM	RW	22	240	245	49.5	-8.1	163	166	49.5	-8.0	5.7	92.1	97.8	46.6	53.4	13:51	12:24	11	15	1.2	60	68.3
60	Taylor Hall	33	CHI	LW	20	278	288	49.1	6.2	177	194	47.7	3.3	7.9	89.6	97.4	53.4	46.6	15:12	13:45	11	14	-0.9	83	50.6
61	Morgan Barron	26	WPG	C	21	173	144	54.6	6.5	125	98	56.1	7.9	4.2	91.3	95.5	29.5	70.5	11:07	9:16	11	12	1.1	42	57.1
62	Trevor Moore	29	LAK	LW	21	314	243	56.4	4.6	229	160	58.9	6.1	9.8	87.3	97.1	49.0	51.0	16:59	13:07	11	11	-0.5	91	54.9
63	Uvis Balinskis	28	FLA	D	21	222	197	53.0	-0.5	158	156	50.3	-1.9	6.7	85.7	92.4	63.6	36.4	14:14	11:39	11	8	0.4	51	52.9
64	David Pastrňák	28	BOS	RW	22	301	304	49.8	2.3	220	221	49.9	3.4	9.9	89.7	99.6	65.7	34.3	19:41	14:51	10	38	-1.9	169	52.7
65	Josh Manson	33	COL	D	21	317	316	50.1	-5.1	207	218	48.7	-6.6	10.1	84.7	94.7	40.5	59.5	18:09	16:13	10	34	-6.3	73	31.5
66	Johnathan Kovacevic	27	NJD	D	23	342	363	48.5	-0.8	246	258	48.8	0.0	12.4	93.8	106.2	34.0	66.0	20:22	17:39	10	33	3.0	63	34.9
67	Marcus Pettersson	28	PIT	D	23	533	452	54.1	5.0	370	327	53.1	5.5	9.7	86.2	95.9	48.3	51.7	22:23	19:30	10	32	-3.0	78	32.1
68	Mason Lohrei	24	BOS	D	18	247	286	46.3	-1.8	162	208	43.8	-3.8	10.5	91.0	101.5	52.1	47.9	17:41	15:44	10	30	-3.3	44	43.2
69	John Carlson	35	WSH	D	20	412	374	52.4	5.9	300	261	53.5	4.5	14.8	89.9	104.7	53.4	46.6	24:39	18:16	10	29	5.2	115	41.7
70	Miro Heiskanen	25	DAL	D	19	446	392	53.2	-0.8	303	289	51.2	-2.6	10.8	91.0	101.8	56.7	43.3	24:48	21:01	10	28	4.5	133	34.6
71	Rasmus Dahlin	24	BUF	D	21	518	360	59.0	11.7	357	261	57.8	10.9	11.0	89.4	100.4	57.2	42.8	24:45	20:09	10	25	1.9	148	43.2
72	Connor McDavid	28	EDM	C	19	453	262	63.4	11.0	330	207	61.5	9.1	12.3	84.2	96.5	74.2	25.8	21:13	17:38	10	24	10.5	127	54.3
73	Jared McCann	28	SEA	C	21	278	268	50.9	3.1	190	190	50.0	1.2	16.1	90.3	106.4	49.2	50.8	17:19	12:59	10	21	4.0	114	44.7
74	Maxim Tsyplakov	26	NYI	F	21	314	290	52.0	4.7	232	215	51.9	2.4	9.9	92.2	102.1	55.2	44.8	16:38	14:23	10	19	2.4	69	42.0
75	Moritz Seider	23	DET	D	20	383	414	48.1	4.3	261	302	46.4	3.7	9.8	91.5	101.3	43.6	56.4	24:23	19:27	10	18	-2.0	77	44.2
76	Troy Terry	27	ANA	C/RW	19	290	339	46.1	3.4	216	246	46.8	3.2	7.0	92.9	99.9	44.2	55.8	17:54	14:42	10	17	-2.8	94	44.7
77	Jack Eichel	28	VEG	C	21	328	368	47.1	0.1	238	265	47.3	-0.8	15.3	90.1	105.4	56.5	43.5	20:45	15:37	10	16	2.1	112	56.3
78	Clayton Keller	26	UTA	C	20	332	261	56.0	3.0	230	198	53.7	1.4	12.1	86.6	98.7	59.9	40.1	18:60	15:28	10	16	1.1	100	48.0
79	Alexis Lafrenière	23	NYR	LW	19	350	310	53.0	6.9	260	229	53.2	6.6	9.9	85.4	95.3	58.3	41.7	17:31	16:18	10	16	0.7	74	55.4
80	Ryan McLeod	25	BUF	C	21	268	276	49.3	-4.1	193	203	48.7	-3.8	15.0	91.3	106.3	45.1	54.9	16:07	13:36	10	15	-4.9	47	42.6
81	Yanni Gourde	33	SEA	C	21	275	283	49.3	0.9	199	197	50.3	1.6	10.5	90.8	101.4	39.6	60.4	15:17	13:17	10	14	-1.1	52	48.1
82	Elias Pettersson	26	VAN	C	19	291	258	53.0	1.8	204	171	54.4	5.2	12.3	90.3	102.6	43.3	56.7	19:32	14:45	10	14	2.3	83	48.2
83	Fabian Zetterlund	25	SJS	W	23	352	385	47.8	3.8	230	276	45.5	0.6	13.3	91.6	105.0	56.5	43.5	17:21	15:06	10	13	-2.2	104	42.3
84	Nic Dowd	34	WSH	C	20	244	278	46.7	-2.7	170	193	46.8	-5.2	13.4	91.5	104.9	10.0	90.0	15:51	13:15	10	9	-0.8	43	58.1
85	Brandon Montour	30	SEA	D	20	447	392	53.3	7.7	310	273	53.2	7.0	10.1	93.3	103.4	51.2	48.8	23:36	20:20	9	28	-0.6	146	45.2
86	Justin Faulk	32	STL	D	22	401	439	47.7	-0.9	275	326	45.8	-2.3	6.3	91.5	97.9	54.7	45.3	23:25	19:32	9	27	-1.7	98	42.9
87	Noah Hanifin	28	VEG	D	21	364	439	45.3	-2.7	275	312	46.8	-1.6	11.5	87.7	99.3	53.8	46.2	21:12	18:36	9	25	-1.0	69	55.1
88	Nick Schmaltz	28	UTA	C	20	315	244	56.4	3.4	218	181	54.6	2.6	11.6	84.6	96.2	58.3	41.7	18:19	14:21	9	24	0.0	89	46.1
89	Adam Fantilli	20	CBJ	C	20	280	281	49.9	-3.0	192	206	48.2	-5.0	9.3	87.1	96.4	60.8	39.2	16:47	14:26	9	22	-2.4	85	49.4
90	Ivan Barbashev	29	VEG	C	21	317	367	46.3	-1.1	233	266	46.7	-1.7	15.9	90.5	106.4	57.4	42.6	16:27	15:23	9	21	0.4	68	52.9
91	Jakob Chychrun	26	WSH	D	15	260	265	49.5	-0.4	186	181	50.7	-2.3	14.9	92.3	107.2	56.3	43.7	19:40	18:10	9	21	1.2	65	43.1
92	Warren Foegele	28	LAK	LW	21	290	233	55.4	3.2	204	157	56.5	2.8	11.3	92.2	103.4	55.4	44.6	15:04	12:39	9	21	1.9	92	52.2
93	Matty Beniers	22	SEA	C	21	302	298	50.3	2.4	203	204	49.9	1.1	10.1	92.5	102.6	55.2	44.8	17:32	14:52	9	20	1.9	70	51.4
94	K'Andre Miller	25	NYR	D	19	379	344	52.4	6.3	277	244	53.2	6.8	8.5	88.8	97.2	53.9	46.1	22:04	19:01	9	20	-1.8	70	40.0
95	Phillip Danault	31	LAK	C	21	316	236	57.2	5.7	227	155	59.4	6.9	7.9	91.3	99.2	50.8	49.2	17:19	13:27	9	19	-0.5	75	42.7
96	Owen Power	22	BUF	D	21	393	362	52.1	-0.3	277	260	51.6	0.2	13.1	86.7	99.8	55.3	44.7	21:45	17:56	9	19	-3.6	74	50.0
97	Alexandre Carrier	28	NSH	D	21	305	365	45.5	-9.1	216	269	44.5	-9.2	7.3	89.1	96.4	40.7	59.3	20:12	17:06	9	17	-6.4	37	48.6
98	Jalen Chatfield	28	CAR	D	20	370	259	58.8	-2.3	273	190	59.0	-1.6	13.5	94.7	108.1	49.5	50.5	18:23	16:18	9	17	2.9	71	36.6
99	Pavel Dorofeyev	24	VEG	LW	21	269	314	46.1	-1.3	199	217	47.8	0.0	8.1	87.8	95.8	62.6	37.4	16:10	13:49	9	17	-0.8	97	61.9
100	Conor Garland	28	VAN	RW	19	264	258	50.6	-1.7	205	177	53.7	4.2	8.8	92.2	101.1	51.8	48.2	19:11	15:01	9	17	1.6	85	48.2

 

[jellybeans]

I wonder if it would be possible to explore CC for B. Tkachuk. One big obstable is I know CC has a no movement and I doubt he would like going to Ottawa.

CC can be traded anytime,habs do this very quickly but Ottawa laughs and hangs up

 

[Treb]

I wonder if it would be possible to explore CC for B. Tkachuk. One big obstable is I know CC has a no movement and I doubt he would like going to Ottawa.

Caufield's M-NTC starts in 2028-2029 with a 15 no-trade list. Goes down to 10 and 5 the two following years.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Love that we’re back to the “trade everyone” phase of the season. It’s been a minute.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

CC can be traded anytime,habs do this very quickly but Ottawa laughs and hangs up

And the Habs should not offer it. At this point Tkachuk is a loser. Caufield is not. And at 25 will Tkachuk mature?

 

[Runner77]

Another edition of Hughes working the phones:

Canadiens continue to monitor trade market — The Fourth Period

Montreal is still engaged in trade talks, but going into Friday, a move was not considered imminent.

www.thefourthperiod.com

The Fourth Period/ Pagnotta must have been inspired by LeBrun.

 

[Kimota]

If they ever trade Tkachuk, it definitely won't be in Division nevermind a rival.

In 2024, not sure it matters anymore.

 

[skidcells]

Question for you all: at what point do you ‘quit’ on Dach and newhook and try to trade them while they still have some value? Holding onto them for too long will deplete any residual trade value they might have a la Barron.

For me they can be packaged with other pieces for a promising RHD

 

[Sterling Archer]

Another edition of Hughes working the phones:

Canadiens continue to monitor trade market — The Fourth Period

Montreal is still engaged in trade talks, but going into Friday, a move was not considered imminent.

www.thefourthperiod.com

The Fourth Period/ Pagnotta must have been inspired by LeBrun.

There’s nothing to write about so they wrote about nothing. Then when Habs make a trade, they make it sound like they knew all along what was going to happen. It’s the “insider” formula. Teams are looking to do something, teams are working the phones, teams looking for a shakeup. Same ol’ all the time to justify having a full time job.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

We could all tell by Pacioretty’s 3rd season that he was special. Chicago got rid of Dach, a3rd overall after 3 seasons only and is now in his 6th season and look terrible.

I don’t like the fact Chicago gave u on him so fast and I think they saw something that I think we are now seeing. Part of it must be his lack intensity, his nonchalance and his poor work ethic.

It's mostly his injuries. Drouin is doing fine in Colorado. Sometimes, young players come with high expectations and they simply crack. Dach is one of these. Relegated to a third line, I'm sure Dach would be just fine. Nothing special though. Priority at the draft would be to draft a bonefied C.

 

[jellybeans]

And the Habs should not offer it. At this point Tkachuk is a loser. Caufield is not. And at 25 will Tkachuk mature?

Tkatchuk a loser holly @#$ are you ok dude.he's what CC will never be i'm ok with having Cole but Tkatchuk is on another level.

 

[sampollock]

You think Vancouver's GM would trade a 5 tool player for that garbage ?

Asked for a for a name I shoot for the stars

 

[MarkovsKnee]

In 2024, not sure it matters anymore.

It does.

 

[Ezpz]

I'd easily swap a couple lower end a prospects for Jiricek. Like Mesar and Mailloux.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I'd easily swap a couple lower end a prospects for Jiricek. Like Mesar and Mailloux.

Mesar looked good stars wise, but Jiricek is definitely better/worth a lot more, so I doubt Columbus does that type of deal.

Habs' prospect pool isn't as good as people think and for RHD it's pretty much non-existent because they'd rather draft a random Latvian goalie than a 6'3, rhd in his 2nd go through, but that's another thing.

Habs need to keep Reinbacher and Mailloux AND add Jiricek and hope one of them works out to be at least a top 4 dman.