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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

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WeThreeKings said:
You need playmaking and puck carrying ability..

Cozens isn't the guy for me if we are burning assets.
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That there is where if the Habs are paying a lot for him, better off to pay a bit more and get someone decent, but if it's the usual Sabres selling low I'd be interested.

McGees said:
“Canadiens are guaranteed to acquire PLD…”
“Habs have no interest in Laine…”

- Renowned Canadiens Insider Eric Engels
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Hey, leave him alone! You know how hard it is to sound authoritative about hockey while simultaneously sounding like you know Jack?

Mostly anything smart he says he prefaces it with "you know what someone told me.." that's when you listen

ReHabs said:
Insiders are fun and I'm tired of Friedman being the NHL's mouthpiece. Some diversity of voices brings some pepper and spice to the mix.

Look at how much some hang on Grant McCagg's every burp and fart. It's part of our pathetic low-quality media ecosystem, it's borderline charming.
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I think the NHL wants a Woj for themselves. That's why it was Bob and then the others. Now it's Friedman then others.
 
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Dichow Stopper said:
Things are sad in Habs land when we are still talking about Kovacevic.
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morhilane said:
When MB used the "the answer is in the room", no big trades ever happened from what I remember.

The Sabres owner will trade players to save salaries thought.
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That's not the Sabres. They trade everyone all the time. This latest skid is another major disappointment in a year where they were supposed to be competitive. If this continues, I can't see them not making changes, whether it's players, coaching or GM. Something has to give there.
 
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Deus ex machina said:
He's not Friedman but i think he's got some connections.
He goes on the NHL Network FFS. It's not like he's Eklund of something.

I really don't get the hate for insiders here.
It's like people expect them to predict the future before even GMs know whether they can pull off a trade or not.
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Eklund had sources when Paul Holmgren was the Flyers GM. Since then however...
 
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Sterling Archer said:
That's not the Sabres. They trade everyone all the time. This latest skid is another major disappointment in a year where they were supposed to be competitive. If this continues, I can't see them not making changes, whether it's players, coaching or GM. Something has to give there.
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I doubt anyone in the Sabres org expected them to be competitive this year while being the youngest team in the league.
 
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yianik said:
I have no idea why the Rags would move important pieces but the guy to target is Adam Fox IF we are looking to bring in a big time player from the Rangers . He is a RHD PMD who has 4 years left on his deal after this one and he is only 26. Allows Guhle tp play LHD and together they should be a great combination. Also allows us to move Matheson. If Reinbacher wasnt injured I could see him being the piece going back. I would not go after Kreider, a winger who has 2 more years after this and doesnt fit our window so well ( and our wingers on the top 6 are Caufield, Slaf, Demi and hopefully Laine ).
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Doubt Fox would come here
 
morhilane said:
I doubt anyone in the Sabres org expected them to be competitive this year while being the youngest team in the league.
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Think they expected progression. Better D, far better goaltending and more experienced young players. What’s happening now is cataclysmic. Total regression and lack of compete is a huge concern and not enough vets to help pull them out of it.
 
Sterling Archer said:
Think they expected progression. Better D, far better goaltending and more experienced young players. What’s happening now is cataclysmic. Total regression and lack of compete is a huge concern and not enough vets to help pull them out of it.
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I think it's probably a management problem. Stats wise the players are doing well.

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]Tage Thompson[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]1997-10-30[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]Phoenix, AZ[/TD]
[TD]6.06[/TD]
[TD]220[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]Alex Tuch[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]1996-05-10[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]Syracuse, NY[/TD]
[TD]6.04[/TD]
[TD]219[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Jason Zucker[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1992-01-16[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]Newport Beach, CA[/TD]
[TD]5.11[/TD]
[TD]195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]77[/TD]
[TD]John Peterka[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]-9[/TD]
[TD]2002-01-14[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]Munich, Germany[/TD]
[TD]6.00[/TD]
[TD]189[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]Rasmus Dahlin[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2000-04-13[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Lidkoping, Sweden[/TD]
[TD]6.03[/TD]
[TD]204[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]Owen Power[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]-2[/TD]
[TD]2002-11-22[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga, ONT[/TD]
[TD]6.06[/TD]
[TD]226[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Bowen Byram[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2001-06-13[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Cranbrook, BC[/TD]
[TD]6.01[/TD]
[TD]205[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD]Ryan McLeod[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1999-09-21[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga, ONT[/TD]
[TD]6.03[/TD]
[TD]188[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Dylan Cozens[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]-7[/TD]
[TD]2001-02-09[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Whitehorse, Yukon Terr[/TD]
[TD]6.03[/TD]
[TD]207[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Zachary Benson[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]-2[/TD]
[TD]2005-05-12[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Chilliwack, BC[/TD]
[TD]5.10[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Peyton Krebs[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2001-01-26[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Calgary, ALTA[/TD]
[TD]6.00[/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

I mean stats wise TT is doing well same for Peterka, Tuch and Zucker. Dahlin, Power and Byram are all doing well. Main problem is offensive depth on the 2nd line with all of Cozens, Benson, Krebs and Quinn struggling but that would be easily solvable by good management. A better vet dman to help Byram, Dahlin and Power would help too their vet on defense suck. Goalie wise Luukkonen is doing fine nothing impressive but nothing that could explain their ranking either. Don't think it's the players fault honestly.
 
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LaP said:
I think it's probably a management problem. Stats wise the players are doing well.

[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]Tage Thompson[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]1997-10-30[/TD]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]Phoenix, AZ[/TD]
[TD]6.06[/TD]
[TD]220[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]89[/TD]
[TD]Alex Tuch[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]1996-05-10[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]Syracuse, NY[/TD]
[TD]6.04[/TD]
[TD]219[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Jason Zucker[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1992-01-16[/TD]
[TD]32[/TD]
[TD]Newport Beach, CA[/TD]
[TD]5.11[/TD]
[TD]195[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]77[/TD]
[TD]John Peterka[/TD]
[TD]R[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]-9[/TD]
[TD]2002-01-14[/TD]
[TD]22[/TD]
[TD]Munich, Germany[/TD]
[TD]6.00[/TD]
[TD]189[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]26[/TD]
[TD]Rasmus Dahlin[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2000-04-13[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Lidkoping, Sweden[/TD]
[TD]6.03[/TD]
[TD]204[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]Owen Power[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]-2[/TD]
[TD]2002-11-22[/TD]
[TD]21[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga, ONT[/TD]
[TD]6.06[/TD]
[TD]226[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Bowen Byram[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]14[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]2001-06-13[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Cranbrook, BC[/TD]
[TD]6.01[/TD]
[TD]205[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]71[/TD]
[TD]Ryan McLeod[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1999-09-21[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Mississauga, ONT[/TD]
[TD]6.03[/TD]
[TD]188[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Dylan Cozens[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]35[/TD]
[TD]-7[/TD]
[TD]2001-02-09[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Whitehorse, Yukon Terr[/TD]
[TD]6.03[/TD]
[TD]207[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Zachary Benson[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]25[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]28[/TD]
[TD]-2[/TD]
[TD]2005-05-12[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Chilliwack, BC[/TD]
[TD]5.10[/TD]
[TD]170[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]Peyton Krebs[/TD]
[TD]C[/TD]
[TD]30[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]2001-01-26[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Calgary, ALTA[/TD]
[TD]6.00[/TD]
[TD]186[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

I mean stats wise TT is doing well same for Peterka, Tuch and Zucker. Dahlin, Power and Byram are all doing well. Main problem is offensive depth on the 2nd line with all of Cozens, Benson, Krebs and Quinn struggling but that would be easily solvable by good management. A better vet dman to help Byram, Dahlin and Power would help too their vet on defense suck. Goalie wise Luukkonen is doing fine nothing impressive but nothing that could explain their ranking either. Don't think it's the players fault honestly.
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ok ok we can tack Tuch lol
 
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BozoTheClown said:
How old were Petry and Matheson when they broke out?
29 and 27 years old.
Some guys are late bloomer and there is nothing wrong with this, that’s life.

Only dumb ass would not see the talent Hutson had even if it was 2 games last year.

Let’s be honest here, I have heard for the last 20 years that Montreal has one of the best if not the best prospects pool. Where are the Stanley cups to back those claims?


Yeah some of us can see something in players.
What if HUGO got screwed in this trade? Is it not possible?
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I don't know where you are hearing that from. The only time I recall montreal being the best prospect pool was around 2008 when there was price, pacioretty, subban, and mcdonagh, s kost and grabovski headlining it.....with a young plekance and akost on the big team.

Until recently, nobody rated the Habs prospect pool highly since then.
 
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HuGort said:
Doubt Fox would come here
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Even if he would the asking price would be very high that I doubt Hugo would be willing to pay. NYR would be crazy to move him, which of course I’m sure they are not.
 
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HuGort said:
Doubt Fox would come here
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Well according to Trouba they were willing to put him on waivers if he didn't accept the trade. They made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Now would they do that with the much more valuable Fox ? Don't know.
 
yianik said:
Well according to Trouba they were willing to put him on waivers if he didn't accept the trade. They made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Now would they do that with the much more valuable Fox ? Don't know.
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Are the rags cleaning house all of a sudden? Because I don't see this as being a smart move for them in any way...
 
yianik said:
Well according to Trouba they were willing to put him on waivers if he didn't accept the trade. They made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Now would they do that with the much more valuable Fox ? Don't know.
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All these Drury public threats sound like he’s just a mouthpiece for Dolan.

Three wins by the Rags in their last 13 games — the wins coming against the Habs, Sabres and Pens. 💀
 
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Boss Man Hughes said:
NO. They can use more picks but they can probably contend with what they have. It will take a couple of years for all the prospects they have now to contribute.
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But to me it’s clear since the laine injury they did not want to contend nor be in the mix .
Hugo are sharp , can you tell me why if they really meant to be in the mix they would keep a goalie like primeau on the team
 
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vokiel said:
Bernstein isn't Pagnotta, so you agree with the statement? It's not because Renaud Lavoie has contacts with the Habs, that suddenly Lalime becomes an insider. There's some missteps between individuals which can result in incorrect rumors and slander seeping out of a reporting crew. This is mostly why folks refer to Pagnotta as a fraud. IIRC Eklund was practically on the same level, supposedly having contacts who had contacts right?
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It’s about credibility - The Fourth Period is run by Pagnotta and Bernstein one of the crew, like saying TSN is credible because of the likes of Bobby Mac vs Eklund…
 
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